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NCAA Football 12 Title Update #2 - Waiting on Approval From Microsoft and Sony

12:22 PM - August 29, 2011 by Steve_OS

The NCAA Football 12 title update #2 has made it through internal certification and waiting on approval from Sony/Microsoft.

According to EA, the update is hitting a bit later than expected to address a few additional stability issues that will improve the experience.

No other details have been released, but we'll update this topic when it happens.

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# 741 hee163 @ 09/08/11 04:21 AM

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Originally Posted by chicagopax


	I rather them start tuning the second patch, then throwing a band aid now that breaks the game when the new patch comes out. I'll wait to throw a fit til the next patch is out and tuners still aren't coming. Til then, I'm good in that department. Normally the EA response would be to tune it, it's a band aid that would get them out of the water, but they are being smart. Hopefully this patch and tuner return this game to AAA status, even though it will probably be over 2 months from the release date. And on a side note, this is why you don't listen to release dates that randoms preach. If a lot of people didn't believe the people saying today or yesterday a lot of the drama would be non-existant. EA can't stop people from preaching false release dates, it's up to you to hold them with little weight. Yes I would've love to have a patch today or yesterday, but really unless someone with EA or true connections to EA pops in and says 'Hey, our patch is out in a few hours' or something, then stop believing the randoms. It would solve some of the drama.

EA releasing the patch would solve some of the drama. The patch fixing everything would solve all of the drama.

# 742 nova91 @ 09/08/11 04:52 AM

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Originally Posted by tmack10


	I aslo researched that the online pass is the exact cost of developing the game. ie per game. So i suggest to any one who has problems with the game or purchasing the game because of present and past issues to not but a use one from any game retailer unless it is under 40 or right at 40 dollars because then you'll save 10 bucks by purchasing an online pass. also, another solution is to dont by the game at all and purchase it from a friend or pawn shop for cheap. and never trade in a game. thats the dummest thing you can do. then the game retailers make an extra profit from that. Do it this way and i guarantee a change will come.

Torrent, that's all I've got to say I usually buy my games new from Gamestop, occasionally I'll buy one used if I'm short on cash at the moment but if EA keeps making half-@ssed I won't pay for them plain and simple, I know it's wrong but I get tired of wasting money on pos games.

# 743 bamabound2010 @ 09/08/11 05:20 AM

You know before the world ends in 15 some odd months i would like to advance my online dynasty to the bowl game without my whole season being simmed! Thanks EA now i can die and wont have to put up with your S*** anymore!!

# 744 K0ZZ @ 09/08/11 05:27 AM

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Originally Posted by hee163


	EA releasing the patch would solve some of the drama. The patch fixing everything would solve all of the drama.

That wouldn't stop all of the drama. There will always be drama, just some people instigate it more than others. Even if the patch fixes everything and adds some new things (static conference prestige, coaching progression fixed, all CPU coaches being stat tracked as well, ability to remove conferences) they will still be hastled for taking 2 months, poor visibility and not interacting with people here. People will always find a way to complain.

# 745 bamabound2010 @ 09/08/11 05:34 AM

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Originally Posted by chicagopax


	That wouldn't stop all of the drama. There will always be drama, just some people instigate it more than others. Even if the patch fixes everything and adds some new things (static conference prestige, coaching progression fixed, all CPU coaches being stat tracked as well, ability to remove conferences) they will still be hastled for taking 2 months, poor visibility and not interacting with people here. People will always find a way to complain.

You are correct people obviously have dif opinions on everything... so my question is... will ea ever make all of its consumers happy... I dont think so... so i mean at this point what is the point in making this game if you know you cant make everyone happy and the stuff you do put in you cant get right cause your rushed by a release date... its all about the money man welcome to earth people EA isnt about quality or performance there about the BIG BUCKS we just have to catch on and quit buying there crap product...which... will never happen

# 746 bamabound2010 @ 09/08/11 05:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Apostle


	You know, I have defended EA to an extent on here, and thankfully I haven't caught too much hell for it. I've had some freezing issues and of course the tendency bug sucks. I've noticed that it messes with simulation stats a bit as well. But I am still playing the game... Still enjoying it a bit, though I have played this year's title less than any other year. I am starting to really sour on the staleness of this game. I remember all of the old features on the older consoles and how much more in-depth the game was. It was pretty damn amazing at one point. I just think back to this series on the current consoles and how underwhelming they've been. I can speak my mind and I can also change my mind. I think where EA continues to drop the ball is in their communication with us, their loyal (to a fault) customers. People are right - it's downright snaky of them to be around the forums before their game drops, hyping up their product to get as many people excited as they can... and once it happens, they're gone. Vanished. We can't get answers. We can't get any updates. This thread, when you really look at it, is sad. The one thing we all have in common here is our love for this game, but so many here are holding on to something that is gone. This game has run it's course, at least on this console. The atmosphere and sheer essence of college football will not be captured any time soon. They have an exclusive license to a sport like no other - college football - and this game is truly boring most of the time and full of bugs and glitches that brings true rage out of people. Then, they can't step up to the plate and face us. That's what kills me. But we continue to be their enabler. We all want to believe that the game can be so much more. We buy the hype, because we want to believe the hype. Ah, but when does belief equal reality with this game? I remember sending them a new screenshot of Washington's new end zones and new home uniforms. I can't remember the e-mail response word for word, but it said something like, "We're sorry that the new uniforms and end zone art did not make it in for this year's release. We thank you for the information and the visuals to show us how we can make our game better." Same old uniforms in this year's game, same old end zones. Their response above was for nothing; it was nothing more than to draw me in for this year's game. Bottom line, this is the machine they run. Release the game, weather the initial storm, release the patch (hype), weather the storm (ignore the masses), release the last patch. Then they put their head in the sand. The year after... Rinse and repeat. Except find new ways to build the hype even more. That same vicious cycle just gets repeated. When has it been any different on the current systems? Again, find a post on here from me when I slam EA or put down this game. I have said multiple times that I have bought this game year in and year out since it's inception. I was the same with Madden, until a couple of years ago, when I finally quit buying it. I hope I can get to that same point with NCAA until EA earns my dollars. What has ignited this anger? Washington (me) versus Oregon; fourth quarter, score tied at 35. :48 seconds left. I am driving and get the ball in the red zone with :22 seconds left. After two straight runs, I get the ball positioned in the middle of the field and call a timeout. With :07 left, I call on the field goal team. It's a chip shot, and I am already thinking about how great the visits will be for the five recruits in the stands... I am thinking that Chris Polk probably just got in the Heisman discussion after a 26-carry, 244-yard effort. The ball is hiked. The kick is up. Looks to be dead center. Not quite, but the kick is good by a country mile. Game over. I just knocked off #1 Oregon, 38-35... But wait? The game... No... Please? Please! Frozen. The kick is suspended right before it hits the "All State" net in the background. I frantically hit start. I put the controller down. I walk outside. I pray. Come back in, the screen is still frozen. This is the fifth time the game has froze on me in eight games. How can any of us feel good about that. This patch should have been out a month ago - no, the game never should have been released in it's current form, but it was, because EA knows we're willing to be beta testers. And for us, the ones who complain, who's fault is that really? I'm done blabbing now. I'm just beyond frustrated.

Could not have said it better myself sir.

# 747 K0ZZ @ 09/08/11 05:51 AM

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Originally Posted by bamabound2010


	You are correct people obviously have dif opinions on everything... so my question is... will ea ever make all of its consumers happy... I dont think so... so i mean at this point what is the point in making this game if you know you cant make everyone happy and the stuff you do put in you cant get right cause your rushed by a release date... its all about the money man welcome to earth people EA isnt about quality or performance there about the BIG BUCKS we just have to catch on and quit buying there crap product...which... will never happen

Honestly the only way to truely getting things shooken up is either if it is nationally brought forward (a la the lawsuit) or you hit them where it hurts, their profit margin. Until then we honestly can only hope that the team decides to look at their product hard and decides to improve it properly. If they could keep the features they have and implement the old ones and tighten up the gameplay. It would be a good start.

# 748 K0ZZ @ 09/08/11 05:58 AM

The complaints are justified, it's your money spent. I am only saying that complaining on OS is like complaining to a friend of a friend that the product is faulty. Then people come in asking for true information and wanna talk about it then pages of smart comments follow. This thread shouldn't be anywhere near the eighty or so pages. It's just irritating to see a good forum being degraded to simple whining.

This isn't directed at your post, it's thought out and well put to show the grievance, it's more so directed at the posts that are generally just there to incite more problems, rage and annoyance.

I also never really expected Tiburon to be crystal clear and be on here like the buddies they would seem to be during pre game hype. When you buy a car, the dealer will pretend like your long time friend and you cannot live without the car. As soon as your signature is on the dotted line, they are gone. Same general idea.

# 749 bamabound2010 @ 09/08/11 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by chicagopax


	Honestly the only way to truely getting things shooken up is either if it is nationally brought forward (a la the lawsuit) or you hit them where it hurts, their profit margin. Until then we honestly can only hope that the team decides to look at their product hard and decides to improve it properly. If they could keep the features they have and implement the old ones and tighten up the gameplay. It would be a good start.

we shall see my friend until then i have college and the patch to look forward to one i know i can depend on and that one doesnt involve ea

# 750 kjjnesb @ 09/08/11 06:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Apostle


	Considering the current state of the game, it's all pretty justifiable 'complaining' right now. Further, complaining is what gets things done. My $65 earns me a voice, even if no one wants to listen. I don't completely disagree with you, though. I get it. It gets bothersome and annoying. But these are not minor annoyances. I think most people would forgive if the patch delivers on what it said it will deliver on. Sure, some people are going to always complain about the time it took, but they will be in the minority. Right now, they are not. I don't expect the Development Team to come to OS and talk to us. They have lives, they are busy... Whatever. But I do think the company could keep us in the loop just a tad bit better. They are here before the game drops and then they disappear once it's released. I don't blame them as the complaining does get deafening and if I was a developer, I'd probably avoid this place too - but that doesn't mean that I'd quit trying to keep the people who pay my salary in the loop.

I wish we could lock you in a room with the Devs and let you speak for all of us very well said.

# 751 K0ZZ @ 09/08/11 06:44 AM

Those two examples are exceptions not the case, good that your getting good service. We had the opposite with a brand new 07 Aveo that my parents bought, now the suspension and transmission is shot and the dealership won't even help us locate parts.

I was just saying, it's the same show and dance yearly and it's generally that way for video games, especially sports games. It's not ideal and I don't like it. I agree with you clarity and quality would be a refreshing change, but it's obvious that Tiburon isn't going that far.

I don't deny that the devs read this site, but not as much as some people think. I do agree with your ideals, but I don't believe we will get that out of Tiburon / EA. Quality should be improved. After the debacles with Madden and NCAA I hope EA is holding the lighter under Tiburon.

# 752 grismosw @ 09/08/11 07:08 AM

You guys can't compare a car to a video game, each car is unique. Two of us could go buy the same car built right after one another and have a uniquely different result. There are 100,000 components that go into each car made by various technologies with various levels of control and its the same for every OEM.

In general we all bought the same NCAA 12, they program the game and then copy it.

# 753 K0ZZ @ 09/08/11 07:24 AM

How is each car unique. If you buy the same model as someone else, it should be the same car. Yes there are optional additions which could very easily be compared to time savers. I was using it as an example of a sales model, not a quality model.

# 754 Chef J2 @ 09/08/11 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by grismosw


	You guys can't compare a car to a video game, each car is unique. Two of us could go buy the same car built right after one another and have a uniquely different result. There are 100,000 components that go into each car made by various technologies with various levels of control and its the same for every OEM. In general we all bought the same NCAA 12, they program the game and then copy it.

Not to mention, a car is a major purchase that is financed for most people. Its a relative investment. Comparing purchasing cars and video games isn't necessarily supporting a stance or building a platform to have a legitiment complaint. Does the purchaser have a claim to dispute the product this year? Perhaps. There is plenty of evidence that support such a claim. Unfortunately, based on the minimal individual investment by the individual consumer, EA has demonstrated that they aren't taking a proactive customer service, or public relations for lack of better words, on this issue.

Unfortunately, as the consumer, we are all held hostage until the patch actually dropped. Therefore, as the consumer, you have three choices: wait for the patch while continuing to play the game, wait for the patch and don't play the game, or return/sell the game and be finished with this particular series. Acting as if this incident will deter an extremely large and loyal fan base is beyond irrational. Whether right or wrong, EA has a monopoly on college football gaming. Therefore, there isn't the competitive element to produce a quality game and/or patch in an appropriate amount of time.

Buried in all the disappointment of needing a patch in itself and the long, drawn out wait, the bigger issue is why can't we see the emergence of a 2K product, or any other reputable brand, that keeps EA in check? That my fellow OSers is what this series truly needs...

# 755 grismosw @ 09/08/11 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by chicagopax


	How is each car unique. If you buy the same model as someone else, it should be the same car. Yes there are optional additions which could very easily be compared to time savers. I was using it as an example of a sales model, not a quality model.

Within the several hundreds of thousands of components that go into a car, each has its own process variation.

For the most part the guys that are selling the cars have very little to no knowledge of what is going into the cars other than the buzzwords they are given to sell with.

# 756 K0ZZ @ 09/08/11 07:42 AM

I honestly don't believe 2K can produce a viable football game on this generation. It's way too late to make a new engine with a new generation of systems coming out in the next five years. If anyone makes a true competitor it would be 505, and even then it would only be a competitor to Madden in the NFL department, it would be odd to see them leap from the generic football scene to college football. They have NM, and a basic (very basic) system in place to create a game, BB is a far cry from being a competitor to Tiburon in anyway, but if they could get the on the field game down properly I'm sure many would overlook a deep franchise mode. I'd put my money on 505, rather than 2K.

Also, I was saying as a concept, for a sale, not for a purchase and not for quality purposes. It was an elaboration on a previous subject, I know buying for a car is very different than buying a video game.

# 757 OGKing @ 09/08/11 07:49 AM

When should we expect the patch today?

# 758 K0ZZ @ 09/08/11 07:50 AM

If it was going to be out today it probably would've been out by now. I'd say up til noon EST is the cutoff?

# 759 OGKing @ 09/08/11 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by chicagopax


	If it was going to be out today it probably would've been out by now. I'd say up til noon EST is the cutoff?

I'll give EA one more week until i trade it in.

# 760 Chef J2 @ 09/08/11 07:54 AM

This 'patch situation' has slowed my rate of play tremendously. As a LONG time player of this series (...going back to the Sega Bill Walsh days...), I can't ever remember not having mastered the game at this point. Because of the 'patch situation', I haven't really committed to the game yet. That is what stinks...

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