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NCAA Football 12 Roster Glitch Confirmed, Patch to Address Concerns

04:00 PM - July 20, 2011 by skins5680

Christian McLeod has confirmed the NCAA Football 12 roster glitch will be addressed in an upcoming patch. The fix for now? Are you ready for this? Delete your named roster file.

What are the problems you ask? Here are just a few comments from the OS community.

One of the NCAA Football 12 Software Engineer's posted this topic (roster related), in hopes to get some things resolved.

via skins5680

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	When you edit the name of a scrambling QB it changes them to balanced and editing a balanced QB changes them to scrambling. I noticed when i downloaded a roster with names that Denard Robinson was shown as a balanced QB so i went back to the default roster and he was back to a scrambler. So i played a game with the named roster and he attempted zero scrambles. I then played a game with the default roster and he scrambled five times in the first two drives.

via Gotmadskillzson

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	I seen this last week when I downloaded Fairdale Kings rosters for the 360. It just isn't the QBs tendancy that changes, it is also the pass rusher, coverage guys, hard hitters. Everybody tendancy description changes...... I noticed it also effected the Kick off and punt returns for the CPU. And effected the punt blocking the user. With no names, I was able to return punts back for a TD sometimes with a good enough returner. With names, the gunners get down the field super fast like they did in NCAA 11. With out names, the CPU was able to return punts and kick offs back for TDs on me. With names, their blocking is non existent and the cpu have a hard time making it to the 30 yard line on kick offs and on Punt returns they get 3 yards now, my gunners get down the field so fast now I be right on top of them as soon as they catch the ball. So as it stands, no names seem to give the better game play. Being that other players tendancies have changed, I noticed some things. 1. LBs get a lot of tips and INTs on named rosters, even when they aren't in position to do so. 2. Safeties who suppose to be heavy hitters, turn into coverage guys and Intercept passes they normally wouldn't. 3. WRs get off the line quicker on named rosters and they hit stick tackle people on Ints. I had intercepted a pass and a WR hit sticked me. 4. Thomas with his new found strength is now more likely to keep the ball on read option plays. More like 90% of the time now. This was the same way in NCAA 11 when you made a QB's strength too high. 5. DEs don't generate a pass rush on named rosters like they do on non named rosters. Now I am REALLY glad I didn't delete the default roster. I will have that to play until they fixed the name rosters issue. Way too many players to edit get them back to what they suppose to be tendancy wise. Which is another thing, with the work around even though they back to their correct tendancy, their ratings will be out of whack. Good players will be made weaker, weaker bad players will be made stronger.

via buckeye02

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	Same issue with no patch. Also messed around, it changes the tendency for every single player. Im thinking that the rosters will have to be named again if this is patched. How can they patch it to go in reverse and correct tendencies on already named rosters? Looks like a more realistic patch is a fix to keep it from changing for future named rosters.

via Bumble14

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	Just received confirmation that this issue is being looked into heavily by the guys at EA. Be patient--there is a sizable amount of testing with different design divisions to identify the issue and look into a possible fix. It would be helpful if you can please put together a chart showing the following for all positions affected by this issue. I would then like to provide this information to EA. This would also help with making community edits if necessary. Thanks. Position: Default Tendency: New Tendency: Result:

via BaylorBearBryant

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	Well, so far... Position: Quarterback Default Tendency: Scrambler New Tendency: Balanced Result: Default scrambling quarterbacks hardly scramble at all. Position: Quarterback Default Tendency: Balanced New Tendency: Scrambler Result: Default balanced quarterbacks scramble all the time. Position: Running back Default Tendency: Speed New Tendency: Balanced Result: Default speed backs act as balanced backs. They'll attempt power moves too often. Position: Running back Default Tendency: Balanced New Tendency: Speed Result: Default balanced backs act as speed backs. They'll never attempt power moves.

If you want to read more about the ongoing NCAA Football 12 roster glitch, simply read the replies to this topic.

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# 1021 bdawkins20 @ 07/25/11 04:23 PM

I think I may be echoing the sentiment of many that have issue with the slight nuisance of the roster bug. I do not have any issues with waiting a few weeks until a patch is available. College football season is about a month away. My issue is with the uncertainty regarding the hard work put into named rosters by many. The unknown is frustrating, because at least named rosters. Could be enhanced during this waiting time for the patch if it could be applie.

# 1022 heals140 @ 07/25/11 04:56 PM

Anyone know a timetable for when the next patch will be?

This game has potential but I've yet to make it through and actual game with the named rosters without the game freezing on me or a pop-up saying "can't read disc". Just seems to be getting ridiculous, since what's the point of spending the money for a game that doesn't work? Have tried installing it on my HD, but nothing seems to work and my 360 plays other games without a problem.

# 1023 chi_hawks @ 07/25/11 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by MAIZEandBLUE2


	Michigan better not start out 2-5 this year. I cant take any more depressing, losing seasons.

Starting out has not been Michigan's issue the last couple years (5-1 and 5-0 last two years). Its only winning one or two games in conference games that hurt them.

With that said, I think they will be a legit 8 win team this year.

# 1024 Nittsallgood @ 07/25/11 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by bdawkins20


	I think I may be echoing the sentiment of many that have issue with the slight nuisance of the roster bug. I do not have any issues with waiting a few weeks until a patch is available. College football season is about a month away. My issue is with the uncertainty regarding the hard work put into named rosters by many. The unknown is frustrating, *because at least named rosters. Could be enhanced during this waiting time for the patch if it could be applie*.

If I were a roster namer, that is exactly what I would be doing, just slowly without heat, updating and perfecting the rosters. So that the day thae patch comes out, these guys can roll out the perfect rosters and make for an incredibly awesome day. My guess (and Im no CPU nerd by any stretch) is that this is some sort of coding issue and will not affect the roster files in any way... So hopefully Buck and Gator are just or will to decide to just tweak and fix what they made. =)

# 1025 oldman @ 07/25/11 05:27 PM

I called customer service today because my Online Dynasty will not advance past week 1. They said it is a known issue and that the problem is with the rosters. I eventually got sent to a higher up guy for tech support and he told me that they have no ETA on when a patch will be available. His exact words were, "I'd like to say it would just be another week but we really don't know how long it will take.".

He suggested to me deleting my roster file and then trying to advance the week but since I used a roster that removed guys like Terrelle Pryor it won't work.

Lastly, and hopefully this isn't a repeat, but on either NCAA 09 or on 10 this exact same thing happened. Once EA release a patch, it made all rosters that had been made pre-patch obsolete. I hope that doesn't happen again.

# 1026 jbdeuce @ 07/25/11 05:39 PM

I actually look at this "glitch" differently. If I was EA and I keep getting lawsuits thrown at me by college athletes trying to get paid off of their likelyness in the game, I would put this so called glitch in the game on purpose. If michigan's QB without a name is a scrambler with the same number as the real michigan QB, I understand why his tendancy would change when you add a name to him. Because if an editor names him he will give him the real persons name meaning michigans QB has an arguement that he is in a video game and SHOULD be paid for his likelyness. But when the tendancy changes from scambler to balanced, now Denard Robinson doesn't have a case because in real life he's a scrambler and on the game the player is a balanced QB.

Long story short, I don't care about this so called glitch because I don't play play now games vs the cpu so after 5 seasons of dynasty I have all fake players anyway.

***edit*** I haven't had any issues with freezing are anything like that so I guess I'm one of the lucky ones

# 1027 Dogslax41 @ 07/25/11 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by jbdeuce


	I actually look at this "glitch" differently. If I was EA and I keep getting lawsuits thrown at me by college athletes trying to get paid off of their likelyness in the game, I would put this so called glitch in the game on purpose. If michigan's QB without a name is a scrambler with the same number as the real michigan QB, I understand why his tendancy would change when you add a name to him. Because if an editor names him he will give him the real persons name meaning michigans QB has an arguement that he is in a video game and SHOULD be paid for his likelyness. But when the tendancy changes from scambler to balanced, now Denard Robinson doesn't have a case because in real life he's a scrambler and on the game the player is a balanced QB. Long story short, I don't care about this so called glitch because I don't play play now games vs the cpu so after 5 seasons of dynasty I have all fake players anyway. *edit* I haven't had any issues with freezing are anything like that so I guess I'm one of the lucky ones

The bug still impacts you because all those fake players are impacted by the bug and between the time they are recruited and the time they appear on your roster many of their tendencies flip. So you will have players rated for scrambling that have a bugged tendency and don't scramble and pocket rated passers that take off all the time. This bug impacts everyone except those that only play exhibition games and don't care about named players.

Since I am starting a dynasty at a 1* as an OC most of the named players are going to be gone by the time I get to better programs so I dont really care about having real names either, but the fact that from year 2 on my game is going to be bugged prevents me from starting a dynasty.

# 1028 jbdeuce @ 07/25/11 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Dogslax41


	The bug still impacts you because all those fake players are impacted by the bug and between the time they are recruited and the time they appear on your roster many of their tendencies flip. So you will have players rated for scrambling that have a bugged tendency and don't scramble and pocket rated passers that take off all the time. This bug impacts everyone except those that only play exhibition games and don't care about named players. Since I am starting a dynasty at a 1* as an OC most of the named players are going to be gone by the time I get to better programs so I dont really care about having real names either, but the fact that from year 2 on my game is going to be bugged prevents me from starting a dynasty.

thanks for that clarity

# 1029 TheShizNo1 @ 07/25/11 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by SGMRock

Comprehensive list of what changes to what, this is if you edit the player or if you recruit one player type once he joined your team from the recruiting board these changes will also happen.

Position

Before

After

QB

Scrambling
Balanced
Pocket Passer

Balanced
Scrambling
Pocket Passer

HB

Speed
Balanced
Power

Balanced
Speed
Power

FB

Balanced
Receiving
Blocking

Receiving
Balanced
Blocking

WR

Balanced
Speed
Possession

Speed
Balanced
Possession

TE

Balanced
Receiving
Blocking

Receiving
Balanced
Blocking

OL

Balanced
Pass Block
Run Block

Pass Block
Balanced
Run Block

DL

Balanced
Run Stopper
Pass Rusher

Run Stopper
Balanced
Pass Rusher

LB Balanced
Run Stopper
Coverage

Run Stopper
Balanced
Coverage

DB

Balanced
Hard Hitter
Coverage

Hard Hitter
Balanced
Coverage

Kicker & Punter

Balanced
Accurate
Power

Accurate
Balanced
Power

__________________

Can someone tell me what ratings to mess with to get these tendencies to change back to their originals as far as recruiting goes?

# 1030 Bellsprout @ 07/25/11 06:30 PM

I'm not sure this affected buckeye's rosters for me.

Played Nebraska last night as Wisconsin and Taylor Martinez was running all over the place. Then I checked the stats and Denard is on pace for 1000 yards rushing.

What's weird is that on the Depth Chart screen it says D. Rob's a Balanced passer, but if you go into the editor and look at his attributes, his tendency is listed as scrambler.

# 1031 Phobia @ 07/25/11 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Sammidysam


	Wait, recruits get bugged by this too? I thought it was only the named players on your starting roster...

Negative it has been confirmed recruits get bugged also.

# 1032 NINJAK2 @ 07/25/11 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Gotmadskillzson


	He doesn't run nearly as much as he did with the default non named rosters. He isn't the only one, all the scramblers are that way with named rosters and the balanced QB don't run at all. Some thing is wrong with NCAA 12 database tables. Stuff shouldn't be effected just because you named the players. But it definitely seemed to have effect the game play AI.

I'm wondering if EA had this tendency swap occur on purpose to avoid getting in trouble with the whole NCAA player likeness thing(Also odd that you can't give a 6-0, 193lb dark skin man dreads-See Denard

). While their default no name rosters have the correct abilities of a Denard Robinson for example, The minute you try to manually edit the name, the tendency swaps so you can't potentially name him Robinson and have his true tendencies...

# 1033 aarontab @ 07/25/11 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by NINJAK2


	I'm wondering if EA had this tendency swap occur on purpose to avoid getting in trouble with the whole NCAA player likeness thing(Also odd that you can't give a 6-0, 193lb dark skin man dreads-See Denard). While their default no name rosters have the correct abilities of a Denard Robinson for example, The minute you try to manually edit the name, the tendency swaps so you can't potentially name him Robinson and have his true tendencies...

This has been kicked around by a few people, consensus (for what it's worth until we actually hear something from EA) is that they wouldn't have acknowledged the glitch if it were intentional.

# 1034 bkrich83 @ 07/25/11 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by NINJAK2


	I'm wondering if EA had this tendency swap occur on purpose to avoid getting in trouble with the whole NCAA player likeness thing(Also odd that you can't give a 6-0, 193lb dark skin man dreads-See Denard). While their default no name rosters have the correct abilities of a Denard Robinson for example, The minute you try to manually edit the name, the tendency swaps so you can't potentially name him Robinson and have his true tendencies...

I don't think this is likely. I think they simply have some variables reversed which cause the wrong tendency to be used.

# 1035 boxtrev @ 07/25/11 07:53 PM

Three questions I would be much obliged if someone could answer:

#1 Is there a confirmed date yet as to when this patch will be released (i.e. will it be ready before the start of CFB season)?
#2 Will they be able to fix the player tendencies in such a way that it will fix the current named rosters we have or we could just download them again and the player tendencies would be fixed?

I have been reading through this thread trying to find these answers. Thanks for taking the time to respond!

# 1036 NINJAK2 @ 07/25/11 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by bkrich83


	I don't think this is likely. I think they simply have some variables reversed which cause the wrong tendency to be used.

You and aaron are probably right. I know with that pending lawsuit against EA by former NCAA players and the whole debate on player likenesses I thought that EA may be trying to curtail the appearance of certain similarities to the real players.

# 1037 Dianwei32 @ 07/25/11 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by boxtrev


	Three questions I would be much obliged if someone could answer: #1 Is there a confirmed date yet as to when this patch will be released (i.e. will it be ready before the start of CFB season)? #2 Will they be able to fix the player tendencies in such a way that it will fix the current named rosters we have or we could just download them again and the player tendencies would be fixed? I have been reading through this thread trying to find these answers. Thanks for taking the time to respond!

1. As of now there is no projected date for a patch, EA has confirmed that they know of the problem and said they will put out a patch, but they haven't said when.

2. No idea, it would be amazing if the fix affected current rosters, but it's doubtful.

3. That was only 2 questions.

# 1038 boxtrev @ 07/25/11 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Dianwei32


	1. As of now there is no projected date for a patch, EA has confirmed that they know of the problem and said they will put out a patch, but they haven't said when. 2. No idea, it would be amazing if the fix affected current rosters, but it's doubtful. 3. That was only 2 questions.

Ha! Thanks. You're right. I started out with three questions and then I think I forgot my third one before I finished writing and didn't go back to edit my post obviously. Thanks for answering my questions so succinctly.

# 1039 ODogg @ 07/26/11 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by NINJAK2


	You and aaron are probably right. I know with that pending lawsuit against EA by former NCAA players and the whole debate on player likenesses I thought that EA may be trying to curtail the appearance of certain similarities to the real players.

If they were trying to do that they'd not have the tendencies correct out of the box, thats nothing to do with this, this is a bug.

# 1040 ODogg @ 07/26/11 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Dianwei32


	1. As of now there is no projected date for a patch, EA has confirmed that they know of the problem and said they will put out a patch, but they haven't said when. 2. No idea, it would be amazing if the fix affected current rosters, but it's doubtful. 3. That was only 2 questions.

For number two I'd say it's possible they can fix the current rosters, especially if it's just a programming table that is backwards, which is what manyhave said it appears to be. If that is the case, fix the table and the problem is corrected when the rosters are reloaded and reference the correct table.

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