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NCAA Football 12 Roster Glitch Confirmed, Patch to Address Concerns

04:00 PM - July 20, 2011 by skins5680

Christian McLeod has confirmed the NCAA Football 12 roster glitch will be addressed in an upcoming patch. The fix for now? Are you ready for this? Delete your named roster file.

What are the problems you ask? Here are just a few comments from the OS community.

One of the NCAA Football 12 Software Engineer's posted this topic (roster related), in hopes to get some things resolved.

via skins5680

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	When you edit the name of a scrambling QB it changes them to balanced and editing a balanced QB changes them to scrambling. I noticed when i downloaded a roster with names that Denard Robinson was shown as a balanced QB so i went back to the default roster and he was back to a scrambler. So i played a game with the named roster and he attempted zero scrambles. I then played a game with the default roster and he scrambled five times in the first two drives.

via Gotmadskillzson

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	I seen this last week when I downloaded Fairdale Kings rosters for the 360. It just isn't the QBs tendancy that changes, it is also the pass rusher, coverage guys, hard hitters. Everybody tendancy description changes...... I noticed it also effected the Kick off and punt returns for the CPU. And effected the punt blocking the user. With no names, I was able to return punts back for a TD sometimes with a good enough returner. With names, the gunners get down the field super fast like they did in NCAA 11. With out names, the CPU was able to return punts and kick offs back for TDs on me. With names, their blocking is non existent and the cpu have a hard time making it to the 30 yard line on kick offs and on Punt returns they get 3 yards now, my gunners get down the field so fast now I be right on top of them as soon as they catch the ball. So as it stands, no names seem to give the better game play. Being that other players tendancies have changed, I noticed some things. 1. LBs get a lot of tips and INTs on named rosters, even when they aren't in position to do so. 2. Safeties who suppose to be heavy hitters, turn into coverage guys and Intercept passes they normally wouldn't. 3. WRs get off the line quicker on named rosters and they hit stick tackle people on Ints. I had intercepted a pass and a WR hit sticked me. 4. Thomas with his new found strength is now more likely to keep the ball on read option plays. More like 90% of the time now. This was the same way in NCAA 11 when you made a QB's strength too high. 5. DEs don't generate a pass rush on named rosters like they do on non named rosters. Now I am REALLY glad I didn't delete the default roster. I will have that to play until they fixed the name rosters issue. Way too many players to edit get them back to what they suppose to be tendancy wise. Which is another thing, with the work around even though they back to their correct tendancy, their ratings will be out of whack. Good players will be made weaker, weaker bad players will be made stronger.

via buckeye02

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	Same issue with no patch. Also messed around, it changes the tendency for every single player. Im thinking that the rosters will have to be named again if this is patched. How can they patch it to go in reverse and correct tendencies on already named rosters? Looks like a more realistic patch is a fix to keep it from changing for future named rosters.

via Bumble14

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	Just received confirmation that this issue is being looked into heavily by the guys at EA. Be patient--there is a sizable amount of testing with different design divisions to identify the issue and look into a possible fix. It would be helpful if you can please put together a chart showing the following for all positions affected by this issue. I would then like to provide this information to EA. This would also help with making community edits if necessary. Thanks. Position: Default Tendency: New Tendency: Result:

via BaylorBearBryant

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	Well, so far... Position: Quarterback Default Tendency: Scrambler New Tendency: Balanced Result: Default scrambling quarterbacks hardly scramble at all. Position: Quarterback Default Tendency: Balanced New Tendency: Scrambler Result: Default balanced quarterbacks scramble all the time. Position: Running back Default Tendency: Speed New Tendency: Balanced Result: Default speed backs act as balanced backs. They'll attempt power moves too often. Position: Running back Default Tendency: Balanced New Tendency: Speed Result: Default balanced backs act as speed backs. They'll never attempt power moves.

If you want to read more about the ongoing NCAA Football 12 roster glitch, simply read the replies to this topic.

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# 541 buckeye02 @ 07/22/11 01:02 AM

I agree with the guy who said he's afraid to download patches and tuners. Im deathly afraid of it and have been since Madden 10 when they patched it to fix defense but ruined sim stats.

Patches usually make EA games worse, go back and do your research. You will find out that this is the opinion of most.

Has anyone from EA came out acknowledged this yet?? I prefer a patch or tuner that fixes this only, before they release a patch that tweaks gameplay in any way.

# 542 buckeye02 @ 07/22/11 01:04 AM

I played games against Michigan on AA and HEIS and he ran 0 times in the AA game and 2 times in the Heisman game for 5 yards.

Also, played against New Mexico on both AA and HEIS. BR Holbrook who is a 62 speed and list as a scrambler, ran 7 times on AA for -4 and 5 times on HEIS for -18

# 543 HarkTheSound @ 07/22/11 01:10 AM

This, along with all the other things that are broken in this game, is a travesty of e p i c proportions.

# 544 zmcman1 @ 07/22/11 01:13 AM

Not sure if it's been asked, but anyone with the default roster file still saved, can you upload it to your roster share? I had deleted mine.

# 545 LionsFanNJ @ 07/22/11 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by zmcman1


	Not sure if it's been asked, but anyone with the default roster file still saved, can you upload it to your roster share? I had deleted mine.

delete your named/modified roster file off your system (PS3/Xbox) then load the game. It'll load up the default.

# 546 bhrangerfan0809 @ 07/22/11 01:17 AM

Has anyone tried just switching out the QB with another player (roster edit) and just switching the players? Say your slow QB is running all the time, why not edit him into say a Safety and then edit the other safety into the QB (and make him into the actual QB). Would there still be issues with the whole tendency thing?

# 547 zmcman1 @ 07/22/11 01:18 AM

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Originally Posted by LionsFanNJ


	delete your named/modified roster file off your system (PS3/Xbox) then load the game. It'll load up the default.

haha yeah, I just did that. I thought I had done it the first time, but when I reloaded it, the names were still there.

I think I may have backed out of the menu, which caused the file to auto-save again. It's back to default now.

# 548 Broncos86 @ 07/22/11 01:22 AM

The mention of linebackers knocking stuff down would make sense as to why I never saw this issue in the demo.

# 549 zeroice @ 07/22/11 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by northface28


	So basically guys are playing opposite of their intended playstyle? I never thought id play without names but thats how its looking.

It will be fixed but if you dont mind the wierd names let the cpu name the rosters and there will be no problem of course denard robinson might turn into john henry lol. Do that and your gameplay will stay the same . Then you can play with wierd names lol until the glitch is fixed

# 550 Gotmadskillzson @ 07/22/11 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by bhrangerfan0809


	Has anyone tried just switching out the QB with another player (roster edit) and just switching the players? Say your slow QB is running all the time, why not edit him into say a Safety and then edit the other safety into the QB (and make him into the actual QB). Would there still be issues with the whole tendency thing?

It is more then just the QB, it is other positions as well the tendancy changed.

# 551 bhrangerfan0809 @ 07/22/11 01:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Gotmadskillzson


	It is more then just the QB, it is other positions as well the tendancy changed.

Oh man i thought this glitch (monstrosity more like it) was limited to one position. We can only hope...no, pray....that this "thing" goes away before too long. Knowing our overseers at EA, though...

# 552 aarontab @ 07/22/11 01:37 AM

This game getting its own tv show while being so poorly put together is unprecedented. You have to hand it to them, they really have the best jobs on the planet. They are the Nickleback of video gaming.

I forgot that yesterday i edited some of my new recruits' jersey numbers. My 92 speed WR is now listed as a "possession" receiver. It's like napalm, whatever you touch it just spreads to and ruins...

# 553 buckeye02 @ 07/22/11 01:48 AM

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Originally Posted by aarontab


	This game getting its own tv show while being so poorly put together is unprecedented. You have to hand it to them, they really have the best jobs on the planet. They are the Nickleback of video gaming. I forgot that yesterday i edited some of my new recruits' jersey numbers. My 92 speed WR is now listed as a "possession" receiver. It's like napalm, whatever you touch it just spreads to and ruins...

Lol, I was going to mention this yesterday. You can preveiw the trailer for show #2 directly from your game.

# 554 northface28 @ 07/22/11 02:08 AM

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Originally Posted by zeroice


	It will be fixed but if you dont mind the wierd names let the cpu name the rosters and there will be no problem of course denard robinson might turn into john henry lol. Do that and your gameplay will stay the same . Then you can play with wierd names lol until the glitch is fixed

Ran this by my fellow OD users, all said absolutely not. So we went with the glitch roster, first game against Mizzou, I won 34-31. Their QB Franklin didnt scramble, even though he shouldve, oh well.

On a side note, im noticing tons of big plays now. Mizzou rolled 500+ yds up.

# 555 aarontab @ 07/22/11 02:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Cpterp22


	The roster glitch sucks, but the gameplay is so much better non named roster QB's take off Super LB rarely happens I have seen overthrows.. Fix deep ball and rosters with patch.. This is pretty solid game Power backs run like power backs

I hate to say this, but i think you may be attributing a lot more to this roster glitch than is actually being caused by it. I rarely see the super LB and i see overthrows a lot too, and i have named rosters. This glitch can't possibly encompass all of the things you don't like about the game, for the most part it plays right, just with everybody not utilizing their strengths, i.e. scramblers trying to sit back and pass.

# 556 aarontab @ 07/22/11 02:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Cpterp22


	I never said I didn't like the game... These things werent happing until I went back to the out of box rosters.. SJSU QB took off 1 time with named roster.. 8 times in the first half without

Right on, not claiming you didn't like it. I just mean not every negative in the game is because of this. That statistic in the quote above? Definitely caused by this. Just hoping people don't get paranoid and think everything weird in the game is some kind of glitch, although that is the byproduct of a game so riddled with problems..

# 557 bcruise @ 07/22/11 02:38 AM

My thoughts, having silently followed this thread since last night:

With the tendencies not displaying correctly, there's a clear bug. The wonky stats themselves may or may not have something to do with it (someone mentioned placebo earlier, which I do see a ton of on the whole of OS), but the point is that the two could very well be related. And that should be enough for EA to take a good, hard look at this one (I believe Bumble mentioned earlier that they're already well aware of it).

As for the severity...I don't go throwing this word around casually, but I could see this one going in the gamekiller category IF the consumer cannot play this game without the named rosters. They are such a big part of the game for many people that I don't think it's a stretch to say that. There's a certain number of us that don't need the named rosters to enjoy the game though (myself included), and we're unaffected, of course. In short, YMMV on how serious the bug is, but I think we can all agree that it needs squashing soon.

# 558 ODogg @ 07/22/11 02:47 AM

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Originally Posted by JaySmooov


	I don't know if this has mentioned before, but I'll post my theory: Ok, so someone said that maybe Dena...Michigan QB #16 ratings graded out as a balanced QB, but EA overrided it and made him a scrambler. I THINK that the game is recognizing two different players packaged into one - I'll say a "fused" player. Think DBZ fusion. For example, (And I could be incorrect, so someone should confirm) IF you create a player with ALL 99 ratings across the board, that player would grade out as a balanced player, depending on his position. Maybe EA DID override QB #16/Denard Robinson's tendency because he had ratings that applied to both a scrambler and balanced QB, and possibly even a pocket passer. This could be a problem for EA. If lawyers/whoever were to find out EA purposely made QB #16 a scrambler, then look at Michigan's Denard Robinson and bring up his rushing numbers, it could be used against them in a big way. Which brings up another theory - did EA PURPOSELY add this to safeguard themselves? Where they could say "But 'Denard Robinson' on HIS rosters is listed as a balanced QB, but IRL he's a scrambler; and in OUR default rosters, that's not Denard Robinson, that's just a random player. He doesn't even have dreads!" Seems backwards and not likely though, seeing as how they've said they'll fix it. Here's to hoping it doesn't screw up gameplay, offline and online.

If that were the case EA would have never acknowledged this issue.

# 559 aarontab @ 07/22/11 03:00 AM

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Originally Posted by ODogg


	If that were the case EA would have never acknowledged this issue.

Also can't be true because in my dynasty, recruits are re-classified improperly when i edited jersey numbers.

# 560 bcruise @ 07/22/11 03:01 AM

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Originally Posted by JaySmooov


	Also, it's looking like the guys will have to rename rosters, seeing as how the names will be tied to THEIR roster file. So it will load all the tendencies saved within that file. Expect another week-long wait for newly named rosters. Basically, you all have a decision to make

I'd say the roster makers themselves will have the biggest decision of all - whether to actually do all that work over again. They probably will though - the dedication those guys have to their craft is outstanding.

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