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NCAA Football 12 Roster Glitch Confirmed, Patch to Address Concerns

04:00 PM - July 20, 2011 by skins5680

Christian McLeod has confirmed the NCAA Football 12 roster glitch will be addressed in an upcoming patch. The fix for now? Are you ready for this? Delete your named roster file.

What are the problems you ask? Here are just a few comments from the OS community.

One of the NCAA Football 12 Software Engineer's posted this topic (roster related), in hopes to get some things resolved.

via skins5680

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	When you edit the name of a scrambling QB it changes them to balanced and editing a balanced QB changes them to scrambling. I noticed when i downloaded a roster with names that Denard Robinson was shown as a balanced QB so i went back to the default roster and he was back to a scrambler. So i played a game with the named roster and he attempted zero scrambles. I then played a game with the default roster and he scrambled five times in the first two drives.

via Gotmadskillzson

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	I seen this last week when I downloaded Fairdale Kings rosters for the 360. It just isn't the QBs tendancy that changes, it is also the pass rusher, coverage guys, hard hitters. Everybody tendancy description changes...... I noticed it also effected the Kick off and punt returns for the CPU. And effected the punt blocking the user. With no names, I was able to return punts back for a TD sometimes with a good enough returner. With names, the gunners get down the field super fast like they did in NCAA 11. With out names, the CPU was able to return punts and kick offs back for TDs on me. With names, their blocking is non existent and the cpu have a hard time making it to the 30 yard line on kick offs and on Punt returns they get 3 yards now, my gunners get down the field so fast now I be right on top of them as soon as they catch the ball. So as it stands, no names seem to give the better game play. Being that other players tendancies have changed, I noticed some things. 1. LBs get a lot of tips and INTs on named rosters, even when they aren't in position to do so. 2. Safeties who suppose to be heavy hitters, turn into coverage guys and Intercept passes they normally wouldn't. 3. WRs get off the line quicker on named rosters and they hit stick tackle people on Ints. I had intercepted a pass and a WR hit sticked me. 4. Thomas with his new found strength is now more likely to keep the ball on read option plays. More like 90% of the time now. This was the same way in NCAA 11 when you made a QB's strength too high. 5. DEs don't generate a pass rush on named rosters like they do on non named rosters. Now I am REALLY glad I didn't delete the default roster. I will have that to play until they fixed the name rosters issue. Way too many players to edit get them back to what they suppose to be tendancy wise. Which is another thing, with the work around even though they back to their correct tendancy, their ratings will be out of whack. Good players will be made weaker, weaker bad players will be made stronger.

via buckeye02

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	Same issue with no patch. Also messed around, it changes the tendency for every single player. Im thinking that the rosters will have to be named again if this is patched. How can they patch it to go in reverse and correct tendencies on already named rosters? Looks like a more realistic patch is a fix to keep it from changing for future named rosters.

via Bumble14

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	Just received confirmation that this issue is being looked into heavily by the guys at EA. Be patient--there is a sizable amount of testing with different design divisions to identify the issue and look into a possible fix. It would be helpful if you can please put together a chart showing the following for all positions affected by this issue. I would then like to provide this information to EA. This would also help with making community edits if necessary. Thanks. Position: Default Tendency: New Tendency: Result:

via BaylorBearBryant

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	Well, so far... Position: Quarterback Default Tendency: Scrambler New Tendency: Balanced Result: Default scrambling quarterbacks hardly scramble at all. Position: Quarterback Default Tendency: Balanced New Tendency: Scrambler Result: Default balanced quarterbacks scramble all the time. Position: Running back Default Tendency: Speed New Tendency: Balanced Result: Default speed backs act as balanced backs. They'll attempt power moves too often. Position: Running back Default Tendency: Balanced New Tendency: Speed Result: Default balanced backs act as speed backs. They'll never attempt power moves.

If you want to read more about the ongoing NCAA Football 12 roster glitch, simply read the replies to this topic.

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# 421 BaylorBearBryant @ 07/21/11 05:25 PM

I hate this stuff. Finally I've realized, I need to wait for NCAA Football next year. I won't buy it at launch, if I even buy it all.

# 422 aholbert32 @ 07/21/11 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Roggie


	Huge to you is different than others. The majority of my OD refuses to play until this is fixed. Nobody wants to play a 70 speed QB and watch him try to run 15 times a game, but have a speedster not use his natural athleticism to help his team out. Might not be broken, but it definitely has a major effect on gameplay. On blaming the consumers: People probably shouldn't go get this on release day anymore, but you think that a company as large as EA could avoid releasing a broken game every year. Are we morons for buying it? Yes. But that doesn't give the company an excuse to put out a broken product. Look at the backlash over NASCAR 2011. You want to tell me that company hasn't lost a ton of respect and money due to that fiasco? EA has been heading this way. Many people are now just waiting and buying the game used instead of on release day. OS customers are a different breed than the majority. We get it on release day because we're college football and college football gaming junkies. We will suffer through a broken game and play it because it's our only way, with the exclusive contract EA has. Plenty of people I know that used to go out at midnight to pick up the game have stopped and now buy it used. The midnight release at my local GameStop has gone from 150 people to about 35 in the past 3 years. For 11, I showed up at 11:30 and got my game at 12:20. This year, I showed up at 11:45 and got it at 12:03. People aren't going out in droves anymore to pick it up like they used to because the quality isn't there. Only the hardcore people, like OS members, are.

The numbers dont back that up. The games sales last year didnt drop significantly from two yrs ago. Also one Gamestop isnt exactly an example of a drop in quality. The past 3 yrs I ran all over town to get the game before release date and paid 10-20 bucks over retail. This yr, I got it from Amazon. Why? Because this year there are other games I'm playing right now that are taking up my time (like the Show). It had nothing to do with the quality of the game.

Also the Nascar comparison doesnt apply. That game came out in April, right? And still no patch in July. This patch will be out in Aug/Sept around the time the patch is always released.

# 423 gator3guy @ 07/21/11 05:29 PM

I hate the wait, but maybe they should push the release date back to late July/early August. Those extra couple weeks could make a big difference. Patches seemed like they would change "next gen" gaming but in fact they probably made it worse. Maybe I was oblivious, but I don't remember these major bugs during the PS2 days.

# 424 TheShizNo1 @ 07/21/11 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by aholbert32


	Here is the reality: You guys want new features every year right? Well alot of times when they add new features or fix issues from the previous year....things get broken. EA would have no problem at all just giving you NCAA 07 every year with updated rosters if people were willing to buy it but that isnt the case. So saying "It worked last year" doesnt matter because this is a new game with new features that can sometimes cause big problems. Every year as these games add more features and become more advanced the likelihood of bugs like this increase. I hope you actually do wait next year but if you dont lets not go overboard with the bitching. You've been warned two years straight now.

I think you and I have a different view on reality. Me? I'm not sure I've ever asked for a new feature. I've asked for custom playbooks and formation subs. IF you want to get technical, we'll say new to this gen. And funny enough, I see more people ask for hair/shoe/equipment/etc variety than new features. I see more the oposite, I see people complain about them always adding new features and not fixing the core gameplay. Hm....that tradition seems to be alive and kicking. For me? I'll just use numbers. For those like Dkrause and Gater and the other community guys that spent hours on these, I don't think anyone can blame them for wanting to spit on this game.

I've never tried to bash EA and actually thought they were somewhat kind of turning the corner, but this just makes me realize they aren't. While EA games will go down with some of the best sports games on LG, sadly, they'll have a lot more of the bad games this gen.

# 425 aholbert32 @ 07/21/11 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by CarolinaCJAM


	I really don't want new features every year. I just want a good, simulation-based football game without bugs or glitches, and editing capabilities. Is that really too much to ask for from EA?

You are a very small minority. This board would be flodded with people complaining about the game if they gave you the same features as last year. The Madden board folks are pissed that nothing was added to Online Franchise for that game.

# 426 TheShizNo1 @ 07/21/11 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by gator3guy


	I hate the wait, but maybe they should push the release date back to late July/early August. Those extra couple weeks could make a big difference. Patches seemed like they would change "next gen" gaming but in fact they probably made it worse. Maybe I was oblivious, but I don't remember these major bugs during the PS2 days.

I think patching as a whole has made it worse. It's now ok to ship games out with issues knowing they can try and write over the mistake in a month or so

# 427 TheShizNo1 @ 07/21/11 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by aholbert32


	You are a very small minority. This board would be flodded with people complaining about the game if they gave you the same features as last year. The Madden board folks are pissed that nothing was added to Online Franchise for that game.

That's a different animal. Online Franchise is a bare bones as it can be. It's now in it's third year. Not to mention w/ League Manager they essentially have blueprint in front of them to add more, yet not one thing was touched. I feel that's a fair gripe, but not a fair comparison to this.

# 428 gator3guy @ 07/21/11 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by TheShizNo1


	I think patching as a whole has made it worse. It's now ok to ship games out with issues knowing they can try and write over the mistake in a month or so

Yeah didn't they even say that on the Making of the game or whatever the show is called.

# 429 CarolinaCJAM @ 07/21/11 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by aholbert32


	You are a very small minority. This board would be flodded with people complaining about the game if they gave you the same features as last year. The Madden board folks are pissed that nothing was added to Online Franchise for that game.

Don't get me wrong. I love Dynasty, RTG, etc. but I don't see why EA should work on all these new, fancy features until they actually get solid gameplay (No morphing, sliding into position, "ice-skating running animations", etc.). THEN you can focus on making the game pretty & attractive. Also, I don't care how much testing they have to do; FIX THE DAMN BUGS/GLITCHES.

# 430 PS3guy @ 07/21/11 05:37 PM

so is the "HDR LIGHTING SCANDAL" true then???

# 431 aholbert32 @ 07/21/11 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by TheShizNo1


	That's a different animal. Online Franchise is a bare bones as it can be. It's now in it's third year. Not to mention w/ League Manager they essentially have blueprint in front of them to add more, yet not one thing was touched. I feel that's a fair gripe, but not a fair comparison to this.

Never said it wasnt a fair gripe but you cant have it both ways. Online Franchise in its self was a new feature a few years back and any addition to that is a new feature. You cant say "I want this and this added to OF" or "I want Dynamic Lighting" and then get mad if its not perfect out of the door. Those new features can sometimes cause glitches. You cant compare this gen to last gen because its different (and more complicated) hardware and software plus games with more features. Because of that these things tend to happen.

# 432 dochalladay32 @ 07/21/11 05:43 PM

Like my advisor always says, NEVER EVER add too much in at once (and put in lots of comments... which might be an issue as well). It seems that is the problem with these games. They want to shout "New new new!!!" so people will buy and we'll post for weeks on here and guys will go out for hours a week early trying to get a copy, and things occur in the shuffle and at that point, it is too hard to fix. And then we have this situation.

I'm with many of these guys: give me good sim football. Custom conferences is cool, but outside of that, I want a good game of football. Get that right, then give me some more cool things. I have not touched custom playbooks once? Why, lack of interest encouraged further by more bugs. I have 120+ playbooks to choose from as it is. I can find one to make me happy. But I can't make a custom playbook because there is too much risk for error. The same thing is liable to happen to my historical conference lineups before long, but I think I'm saved by many indepedents and small conferences for a several decades.

# 433 PDDollars @ 07/21/11 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by gator3guy


	I hate the wait, but maybe they should push the release date back to late July/early August. Those extra couple weeks could make a big difference. Patches seemed like they would change "next gen" gaming but in fact they probably made it worse. Maybe I was oblivious, but I don't remember these major bugs during the PS2 days.

I wouldn't mind seeing this, the game does come out 6 weeks before the season, pushing the release date back like Madden did this year would give them a couple more weeks of testing at least

# 434 dochalladay32 @ 07/21/11 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by PDDollars


	I wouldn't mind seeing this, the game does come out 6 weeks before the season, pushing the release date back like Madden did this year would give them a couple more weeks of testing at least

And as someone said, in late July 2013, how long would they have had to work on it? The same year they have now. It would help in year one, and if they took advantage of that extra time to do a lot of cleaning, maybe we're good. But it would probably be spent adding some random feature that may not be correctly implemented.

# 435 aholbert32 @ 07/21/11 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by CarolinaCJAM


	Don't get me wrong. I love Dynasty, RTG, etc. but I don't see why EA should work on all these new, fancy features until they actually get solid gameplay (No morphing, sliding into position, "ice-skating running animations", etc.). THEN you can focus on making the game pretty & attractive. Also, I don't care how much testing they have to do; FIX THE DAMN BUGS/GLITCHES.

"No morphing" on the back of a box doesnt really sell video games but I digress. Also I dont know if they would have found this bug if they hired 500 new beta testers. Shoot, there are tens of thousands of people who visit this forum and this bug wasnt found until yesterday and the game has been out for almost than two weeks.

# 436 TheShizNo1 @ 07/21/11 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by aholbert32


	Never said it wasnt a fair gripe but you cant have it both ways. Online Franchise in its self was a new feature a few years back and any addition to that is a new feature. You cant say "I want this and this added to OF" or "I want Dynamic Lighting" and then get mad if its not perfect out of the door. Those new features can sometimes cause glitches. You cant compare this gen to last gen because its different (and more complicated) hardware and software plus games with more features. Because of that these things tend to happen.

I understand where you're coming from, I do. But, it's now three years for the online franchise....something could have been added, something. I feel I can compare it when it's NCAA's now 5 iteration on it. I imagine by the 7th, more new game systems will start to emerge. So unless they knock 13 and 14 out the park, this generation, again, will be more disappointment than anything else.

# 437 BaylorBearBryant @ 07/21/11 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by PDDollars


	I wouldn't mind seeing this, the game does come out 6 weeks before the season, pushing the release date back like Madden did this year would give them a couple more weeks of testing at least

I vote for pushing the game up two weeks, since we have to do the testing and all.

# 438 aholbert32 @ 07/21/11 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by TheShizNo1


	I think patching as a whole has made it worse. It's now ok to ship games out with issues knowing they can try and write over the mistake in a month or so

I prefer they way it is now. I remember one year EA decided to push back the PC release of NBA live back a few months in order to fix some bugs. Most of those bugs were things I didnt care about and would have preferred the extra two months with game. Let me decide if a bug is a gamebreaker or not.

# 439 BaylorBearBryant @ 07/21/11 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by aholbert32


	I prefer they way it is now. I remember one year EA decided to push back the PC release of NBA live back a few months in order to fix some bugs. Most of those bugs were things I didnt care about and would have preferred the extra two months with game. Let me decide if a bug is a gamebreaker or not.

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Originally Posted by aholbert32


	I think its going a little overboard calling this HUGE or BIG, BIG. For me, HUGE is if it makes the game unplayable or the game is freezing. Its still an annoying issue no doubt. Also, if this really happens every year then the blame starts to move over to the customer. What other product would you buy every year if you know that out of the box there would be issues and that you wouldnt be satisfied with the product until a month or two after you bought it? I know I cant think of one yet every year you guys rush in mass to buy the game Day 1.

So then quit calling out people when they say it is a game breaker. Like I said earlier, if you stop buying the game, then they quit making the game...

Then you're out of any new NCAA Football game.

# 440 CarolinaCJAM @ 07/21/11 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by aholbert32


	"No morphing" on the back of a box doesnt really sell video games but I digress. Also I dont know if they would have found this bug if they hired 500 new beta testers. Shoot, there are tens of thousands of people who visit this forum and this bug wasnt found until yesterday and the game has been out for almost than two weeks.

LOL, I'm not trying to say that they should advertise "No Morphing" or something like that. What I'm saying is that no morphing, sliding, ice-skating, etc. should just be the standard. EA sports is all about "it's in the game". Well, I don't see footballs going through players' stomachs & into their hands when I'm watching college football on a Saturday night. But that's just one example of problems in here. It's the engine that's wrong with the game. Anyways, I'm getting off-topic. Let's just hope this roster problem is fixed soon.

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