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NCAA Football 12 Roster Glitch Confirmed, Patch to Address Concerns

04:00 PM - July 20, 2011 by skins5680

Christian McLeod has confirmed the NCAA Football 12 roster glitch will be addressed in an upcoming patch. The fix for now? Are you ready for this? Delete your named roster file.

What are the problems you ask? Here are just a few comments from the OS community.

One of the NCAA Football 12 Software Engineer's posted this topic (roster related), in hopes to get some things resolved.

via skins5680

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	When you edit the name of a scrambling QB it changes them to balanced and editing a balanced QB changes them to scrambling. I noticed when i downloaded a roster with names that Denard Robinson was shown as a balanced QB so i went back to the default roster and he was back to a scrambler. So i played a game with the named roster and he attempted zero scrambles. I then played a game with the default roster and he scrambled five times in the first two drives.

via Gotmadskillzson

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	I seen this last week when I downloaded Fairdale Kings rosters for the 360. It just isn't the QBs tendancy that changes, it is also the pass rusher, coverage guys, hard hitters. Everybody tendancy description changes...... I noticed it also effected the Kick off and punt returns for the CPU. And effected the punt blocking the user. With no names, I was able to return punts back for a TD sometimes with a good enough returner. With names, the gunners get down the field super fast like they did in NCAA 11. With out names, the CPU was able to return punts and kick offs back for TDs on me. With names, their blocking is non existent and the cpu have a hard time making it to the 30 yard line on kick offs and on Punt returns they get 3 yards now, my gunners get down the field so fast now I be right on top of them as soon as they catch the ball. So as it stands, no names seem to give the better game play. Being that other players tendancies have changed, I noticed some things. 1. LBs get a lot of tips and INTs on named rosters, even when they aren't in position to do so. 2. Safeties who suppose to be heavy hitters, turn into coverage guys and Intercept passes they normally wouldn't. 3. WRs get off the line quicker on named rosters and they hit stick tackle people on Ints. I had intercepted a pass and a WR hit sticked me. 4. Thomas with his new found strength is now more likely to keep the ball on read option plays. More like 90% of the time now. This was the same way in NCAA 11 when you made a QB's strength too high. 5. DEs don't generate a pass rush on named rosters like they do on non named rosters. Now I am REALLY glad I didn't delete the default roster. I will have that to play until they fixed the name rosters issue. Way too many players to edit get them back to what they suppose to be tendancy wise. Which is another thing, with the work around even though they back to their correct tendancy, their ratings will be out of whack. Good players will be made weaker, weaker bad players will be made stronger.

via buckeye02

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	Same issue with no patch. Also messed around, it changes the tendency for every single player. Im thinking that the rosters will have to be named again if this is patched. How can they patch it to go in reverse and correct tendencies on already named rosters? Looks like a more realistic patch is a fix to keep it from changing for future named rosters.

via Bumble14

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	Just received confirmation that this issue is being looked into heavily by the guys at EA. Be patient--there is a sizable amount of testing with different design divisions to identify the issue and look into a possible fix. It would be helpful if you can please put together a chart showing the following for all positions affected by this issue. I would then like to provide this information to EA. This would also help with making community edits if necessary. Thanks. Position: Default Tendency: New Tendency: Result:

via BaylorBearBryant

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	Well, so far... Position: Quarterback Default Tendency: Scrambler New Tendency: Balanced Result: Default scrambling quarterbacks hardly scramble at all. Position: Quarterback Default Tendency: Balanced New Tendency: Scrambler Result: Default balanced quarterbacks scramble all the time. Position: Running back Default Tendency: Speed New Tendency: Balanced Result: Default speed backs act as balanced backs. They'll attempt power moves too often. Position: Running back Default Tendency: Balanced New Tendency: Speed Result: Default balanced backs act as speed backs. They'll never attempt power moves.

If you want to read more about the ongoing NCAA Football 12 roster glitch, simply read the replies to this topic.

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# 441 Dbrentonbuck @ 07/21/11 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by booker21


	Quick question.. if a DE is pass rusher or Run stopper is decided by their Ratings, not the "tendency in their roster". If a OL is Pass blocker or Run Blocker is decided by their RB ratings and not by a label. Why this is changing then? it should be a "cosmetically" thing.

Well, I remember Playmakers and I having this conversation a couple years ago when he discovered how important the tendency label is. It is a bigger deal than most people think. The ratings decide how effective the player is once he has made the decision, but it is the tendency itself that determines when and how the player makes the decision in the first place.

Example: You can play around with QB ratings and if you give a guy high enough throw accuracy and other key ratings, even if he has high speed and acceleration, he will be labeled balanced by the game. Now, even though he could have higher scramble important ratings than other qbs in the game that are labeled scramblers, not only will he run a lot less, but when he does run he will usually run in a straight line and get tackled. A qb who is labeled a scrambler, even though he might be slower and less agile than the other qb will run more often and make better decisions when running.

Think of it this way
Ratings = ability
Tendency = logic

The problem is that this bug takes away the link between the two. It takes away your ability to trigger the correct tendency based on ratings... so even though Robinson is a beast for scrambling ratings wise, he doesn't have the logic that tells him to run, avoid being tackled, etc.

# 442 Bumble14 @ 07/21/11 05:54 PM

Guys come on...you all know that once this issue is patched up you will be enjoying the game again

It definitely sucks that we are inconvenienced by this, but at the end of the day in a couple months none of this is going to matter.

I love the passion of our community.

# 443 TheShizNo1 @ 07/21/11 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Bumble14


	Guys come on...you all know that once this issue is patched up you will be enjoying the game again It definitely sucks that we are inconvenienced by this, but at the end of the day in a couple months none of this is going to matter. I love the passion of our community.

Therein lies the problem

# 444 UMhester04 @ 07/21/11 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Bumble14


	Guys come on...you all know that once this issue is patched up you will be enjoying the game again It definitely sucks that we are inconvenienced by this, but at the end of the day in a couple months none of this is going to matter. I love the passion of our community.

That is very true, I am just upset that the game came out over a week ago and I still have to wait for however long it takes for them to fix these bugs (the custom pb one too), before I can really settle down and play the game the way I want to play it, thats all.

# 445 Bumble14 @ 07/21/11 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by TheShizNo1


	Therein lies the problem

You can either trade the game in, or wait it out and enjoy the game minus the rosters.

Honestly we get it--people are angry about this. Don't get me wrong, I am too. Sadly we can't really do anything about it other than bring it to EA's attention which it already has been. They are aware of the issue and working on a patch.

Not quite sure why everyone keeps beating a dead horse on this.

# 446 BaylorBearBryant @ 07/21/11 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Bumble14


	You can either trade the game in, or wait it out and enjoy the game minus the rosters. Honestly we get it--people are angry about this. Don't get me wrong, I am too. Sadly we can't really do anything about it other than bring it to EA's attention which it already has been. They are aware of the issue and working on a patch. Not quite sure why everyone keeps beating a dead horse on this.

At this point, you're right. I just hope maybe NEXT year EA can avoid something similar.

# 447 aarontab @ 07/21/11 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by UMhester04


	That is very true, I am just upset that the game came out over a week ago and I still have to wait for however long it takes for them to fix these bugs (the custom pb one too), before I can really settle down and play the game the way I want to play it, thats all.

Every year i think it'll get better, or i wait for a patch only to get sidetracked and not end up really getting my money's worth out of it. This year, i'm playing right thru this issue, realism be damned. The game is still fun to me, honestly, it's too bad this is happening but i haven't really noticed this while i've been playing. Ignorance is bliss you know.

# 448 aarontab @ 07/21/11 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by BaylorBearBryant


	At this point, you're right. I just hope maybe NEXT year EA can avoid something similar.

How's that 10 year old kool-aid taste?

# 449 BaylorBearBryant @ 07/21/11 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by aarontab


	How's that 10 year old kool-aid taste?

I think we all know the answer to that... not as good as the electric one.

# 450 northface28 @ 07/21/11 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by BaylorBearBryant


	So then quit calling out people when they say it is a game breaker. Like I said earlier, if you stop buying the game, then they quit making the game... Then you're out of any new NCAA Football game.

Good call, I guess only select guys around here can deem something a gamebreaker.

# 451 Roggie @ 07/21/11 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by aholbert32


	"No morphing" on the back of a box doesnt really sell video games but I digress. Also I dont know if they would have found this bug if they hired 500 new beta testers. Shoot, there are tens of thousands of people who visit this forum and this bug wasnt found until yesterday and the game has been out for almost than two weeks.

I wouldn't say it was just found yesterday. Going through rosters about 5 or 6 days ago with a friend, we both noticed it when I asked why is JuJu Clayton listed as Balanced, then tried to edit him and it stayed. At the time, I thought it was just cosmetic, and didn't delve deeper into it. Never thought to experiment or anything with it though. Haven't had time to play the game lately, so I didn't know it actually mattered.

Believe me if you want, but that's the truth.

# 452 EvanRG @ 07/21/11 06:10 PM

When I go to edit a player, the correct tendency is shown, but outside of that, the incorrect tendency is shown -- sorry if this is old news, but how confident are we that it has completely changed the way a player (in particular a QB) reacts to certain situations?

..I'm a man of science, so does anyone have definitive testing to show that a QB is not running? It seems kind of hard to prove either way unless perhaps we look at sim stats, but regardless I look forward to the patch, but am still enjoying the game.

# 453 aholbert32 @ 07/21/11 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by BaylorBearBryant


	So then quit calling out people when they say it is a game breaker. Like I said earlier, if you stop buying the game, then they quit making the game... Then you're out of any new NCAA Football game.

Actually I'm not. If people stopped buying the game in droves and EA discovered the reason behind that was a lack of quality....EA would take steps to fix that problem. The problem is you guys keep buying a "broken" game. Why would they change anything when you guys continue to buy the game release week? You speak with your wallets and your wallets are saying that you have no problem buying a game that may be buggy and waiting for a patch.

# 454 mdiggitydawg @ 07/21/11 06:13 PM

so, bottom line.... do you guys think a patch will fix this issue and if so, how many weeks do you believe we will be waiting to get it?

# 455 aholbert32 @ 07/21/11 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by northface28


	Good call, I guess only select guys around here can deem something a gamebreaker.

You seem to deem every glitch a gamebreaker so I wont take your opinion to seriously. The term gamebreaker means the game is broken. All I know is my game isnt broken with named rosters. I cant still play the game and I still enjoy it. I'll enjoy it more once this is fixed.

# 456 aarontab @ 07/21/11 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by BaylorBearBryant


	I think we all know the answer to that... not as good as the electric one.

I think EA thrives on "wait till next year"...it guarantees they sell the same year after year. I've taken a few gulps of kool-aid and ended up with a turd in my mouth, this year i'm still thirsty apparently, because i'm right there with ya..

# 457 BaylorBearBryant @ 07/21/11 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by aholbert32


	Actually I'm not. If people stopped buying the game in droves and EA discovered the reason behind that was a lack of quality....EA would take steps to fix that problem. The problem is you guys keep buying a "broken" game. Why would they change anything when you guys continue to buy the game release week? You speak with your wallets and your wallets are saying that you have no problem buying a game that may be buggy and waiting for a patch.

Actually, you were. Think whatever you want to though. I love how the problem is we keep buying a "broken" game and not EA continues to release a game that is "broken."

# 458 Bumble14 @ 07/21/11 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by mdiggitydawg


	so, bottom line.... do you guys think a patch will fix this issue and if so, how many weeks do you believe we will be waiting to get it?

This issue will be fixed via patch. This is confirmed. It is fixable.

No timeframe on the patch. If I had to guess I'd say at least a month.

# 459 tmac55 @ 07/21/11 06:27 PM

Hopefully this gets fixed sooner than later. It is really lame that this has to happen but hey it is what it is at this point.

You either play with what we have or you don't play until the patch. Simple as that. Honestly, up until I saw it on here, I really hadn't noticed any of these things, as I was enjoying the game as is. However, come to think of it, it would enhance the scrambling game immensely.

# 460 trmooney8 @ 07/21/11 06:32 PM

So does this hurt ppl who are doing dynasties with teams like Michigan and Nebraska? Is it harder to scramble with players like Denard and Martinez just because their tendency is balanced rather than scrambler?

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