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NCAA Football 12 Roster Glitch Confirmed, Patch to Address Concerns

04:00 PM - July 20, 2011 by skins5680

Christian McLeod has confirmed the NCAA Football 12 roster glitch will be addressed in an upcoming patch. The fix for now? Are you ready for this? Delete your named roster file.

What are the problems you ask? Here are just a few comments from the OS community.

One of the NCAA Football 12 Software Engineer's posted this topic (roster related), in hopes to get some things resolved.

via skins5680

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	When you edit the name of a scrambling QB it changes them to balanced and editing a balanced QB changes them to scrambling. I noticed when i downloaded a roster with names that Denard Robinson was shown as a balanced QB so i went back to the default roster and he was back to a scrambler. So i played a game with the named roster and he attempted zero scrambles. I then played a game with the default roster and he scrambled five times in the first two drives.

via Gotmadskillzson

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	I seen this last week when I downloaded Fairdale Kings rosters for the 360. It just isn't the QBs tendancy that changes, it is also the pass rusher, coverage guys, hard hitters. Everybody tendancy description changes...... I noticed it also effected the Kick off and punt returns for the CPU. And effected the punt blocking the user. With no names, I was able to return punts back for a TD sometimes with a good enough returner. With names, the gunners get down the field super fast like they did in NCAA 11. With out names, the CPU was able to return punts and kick offs back for TDs on me. With names, their blocking is non existent and the cpu have a hard time making it to the 30 yard line on kick offs and on Punt returns they get 3 yards now, my gunners get down the field so fast now I be right on top of them as soon as they catch the ball. So as it stands, no names seem to give the better game play. Being that other players tendancies have changed, I noticed some things. 1. LBs get a lot of tips and INTs on named rosters, even when they aren't in position to do so. 2. Safeties who suppose to be heavy hitters, turn into coverage guys and Intercept passes they normally wouldn't. 3. WRs get off the line quicker on named rosters and they hit stick tackle people on Ints. I had intercepted a pass and a WR hit sticked me. 4. Thomas with his new found strength is now more likely to keep the ball on read option plays. More like 90% of the time now. This was the same way in NCAA 11 when you made a QB's strength too high. 5. DEs don't generate a pass rush on named rosters like they do on non named rosters. Now I am REALLY glad I didn't delete the default roster. I will have that to play until they fixed the name rosters issue. Way too many players to edit get them back to what they suppose to be tendancy wise. Which is another thing, with the work around even though they back to their correct tendancy, their ratings will be out of whack. Good players will be made weaker, weaker bad players will be made stronger.

via buckeye02

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	Same issue with no patch. Also messed around, it changes the tendency for every single player. Im thinking that the rosters will have to be named again if this is patched. How can they patch it to go in reverse and correct tendencies on already named rosters? Looks like a more realistic patch is a fix to keep it from changing for future named rosters.

via Bumble14

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	Just received confirmation that this issue is being looked into heavily by the guys at EA. Be patient--there is a sizable amount of testing with different design divisions to identify the issue and look into a possible fix. It would be helpful if you can please put together a chart showing the following for all positions affected by this issue. I would then like to provide this information to EA. This would also help with making community edits if necessary. Thanks. Position: Default Tendency: New Tendency: Result:

via BaylorBearBryant

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	Well, so far... Position: Quarterback Default Tendency: Scrambler New Tendency: Balanced Result: Default scrambling quarterbacks hardly scramble at all. Position: Quarterback Default Tendency: Balanced New Tendency: Scrambler Result: Default balanced quarterbacks scramble all the time. Position: Running back Default Tendency: Speed New Tendency: Balanced Result: Default speed backs act as balanced backs. They'll attempt power moves too often. Position: Running back Default Tendency: Balanced New Tendency: Speed Result: Default balanced backs act as speed backs. They'll never attempt power moves.

If you want to read more about the ongoing NCAA Football 12 roster glitch, simply read the replies to this topic.

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# 341 drlw322 @ 07/21/11 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by northface28


	Brady Hoke is a pro-style coach I believe.

that's what i'm saying the read option plays for oregon and neb is still there thats why darron thomas and taylor martinez still run in the game, but once in a scramble element the tendency kicks in. Thats why dennard robinson doesn't run because his tendency doesn't really let him scramble and mich don't really call any read option play with this new style

# 342 northface28 @ 07/21/11 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Bumble14


	Also, I think it is critical to provide slider settings--specifically user pass rush, pass d, and CPU pass blocking. All of these influence how much time a QB has in the pocket to take off.

Im on Heisman:

User pass rush: 50
User pass coverage: 40
Cpu pass block: 45

# 343 drlw322 @ 07/21/11 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by aarontab


	The reason this is happening is because BY RATING they must be scramblers but EA must manually edit the tendencies to match their real life tendencies. That way they can have a guy who is fast BUT is not going to scramble as much and will still use his arm. Editing makes the player revert back to what his actual ratings dictate. DONE AND DONE.

sort of, there is still a bug because the menu tendency doesn't not match the editing screen tendency after that. If what you said was the case then don't should both match after.

# 344 aarontab @ 07/21/11 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by drlw322


	sort of, there is still a bug because the menu tendency doesn't not match the editing screen tendency after that. If what you said was the case then don't should both match after.

It's not 100% that it's a bug, it could be more the perception that it's a bug. I'm more inclined to think this is more like (as an example) if in madden you edited peyton manning's face and saved and you couldn't put it back on him if you came back to edit it. Like the devs just switched it to say "hey this guy might have 91 speed, but i wouldn't call him a 'scrambler' because in life he's less likely to run than throw"

# 345 BaylorBearBryant @ 07/21/11 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by aarontab


	It's not 100% that it's a bug, it could be more the perception that it's a bug. I'm more inclined to think this is more like (as an example) if in madden you edited peyton manning's face and saved and you couldn't put it back on him if you came back to edit it. Like the devs just switched it to say "hey this guy might have 91 speed, but i wouldn't call him a 'scrambler' because in life he's less likely to run than throw"

It's 100% that it's a bug. Read the whole thead.

# 346 TheShizNo1 @ 07/21/11 03:21 PM

This may come off the wrong way, but I'm seriously asking.

Why should we give detailed information on what's wrong with this game? so not only buy a broken game, but then spend time finding glitches also. Aren't their people paid to do this? Not even that, it's not rocket science, the issues have been laid out in about the last 5 pages.

Maybe it's just me. If I get the "well if you want it fixed..." no game should ever be this broken...

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# 347 northface28 @ 07/21/11 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by drlw322


	that's what i'm saying the read option plays for oregon and neb is still there thats why darron thomas and taylor martinez still run in the game, but once in a scramble element the tendency kicks in. Thats why dennard robinson doesn't run because his tendency doesn't really let him scramble and mich don't really call any read option play with this new style

I dont think you understand whats going on. We arent talking about designed runs vs scrambles. Big difference. Without names, call 2 man under d, Drob will make his reads and take off if nothing is open. With names, he will sit in the pocket and not run or take a sack against the same defense.

How are you not seeing this?

# 348 BaylorBearBryant @ 07/21/11 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by northface28


	I dont think you understand whats going on. We arent talking about designed runs vs scrambles. Big difference. Without names, call 2 man under d, Drob will make his reads and take off if nothing is open. With names, he will sit in the pocket and not run or take a sack against the same defense. How are you not seeing this?

YES, THIS!!! I'm amazed at the people who come on here and say it isn't a bug, and they're not READING correctly. READ! There's 35+ pages of confirmation!

READ BEFORE YOU POST! Make sure you're sure of what we're talking about.

# 349 Bumble14 @ 07/21/11 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by TheShizNo1


	This may come off the wrong way, but I'm seriously asking. Why should we give detailed information on what's wrong with this game? so not only buy a broken game, but then spend time finding glitches also. Aren't their people paid to do this? Not even that, it's not rocket science, the issues have been laid out in about the last 5 pages. Maybe it's just me. If I get the "well if you want it fixed..." no game should ever be this broken... Sent from my ADR6400L using Tapatalk

Condense the information so I can bring it to the attention of my EA contacts and go from there. Trying to be helpful. If you don't want to help no one is forcing you.

Opinion noted--no one is forcing you to play the game either. Considering no one in this thread works for EA, there is no point in shredding them to us--can only do what I can do to raise awareness to the issue and hopefully get hard details on a potential patch/tuner.

# 350 drlw322 @ 07/21/11 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by northface28


	I dont think you understand whats going on. We arent talking about designed runs vs scrambles. Big difference. Without names, call 2 man under d, Drob will make his reads and take off if nothing is open. With names, he will sit in the pocket and not run or take a sack against the same defense. How are you not seeing this?

I know there is a bug, I know what it is I've been playing with the roster for the last 24 hrs with strength rating and tendency change.

I'm simply answering bumble 14's inquiry about whether it effects scrambling only and not effect design read option plays. Even tho i do think it effects the aggressiveness in which they decide to keep the ball or not during those read option plays

# 351 RynoAid @ 07/21/11 03:28 PM

EA knows about it and has confirmed it's an issue. They are working on a potential resolution that would be included in a 2nd patch already in the works.

that's all i got right now.

# 352 booker21 @ 07/21/11 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Gotmadskillzson


	Yeah......but when you play the game, they play what their tendancy say they are the 1st page, which is balanced. Just like DEs drop from being pass rushers to run stoppers, hard hitters are changed to coverage.

Quick question..

if a DE is pass rusher or Run stopper is decided by their Ratings, not the "tendency in their roster".
If a OL is Pass blocker or Run Blocker is decided by their RB ratings and not by a label.

Why this is changing then? it should be a "cosmetically" thing.

# 353 BaylorBearBryant @ 07/21/11 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by RynoAid


	EA knows about it and has confirmed it's an issue. They are working on a potential resolution that would be included in a 2nd patch already in the works. that's all i got right now.

Thank you for the update.

# 354 northface28 @ 07/21/11 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by TheShizNo1


	This may come off the wrong way, but I'm seriously asking. Why should we give detailed information on what's wrong with this game? so not only buy a broken game, but then spend time finding glitches also. Aren't their people paid to do this? Not even that, it's not rocket science, the issues have been laid out in about the last 5 pages. Maybe it's just me. If I get the "well if you want it fixed..." no game should ever be this broken... Sent from my ADR6400L using Tapatalk

Youre 100% correct, but, I was taught youre either part of the problem or the solution. I really want this fixed and now. Im really biting my tongue as there are things I want to say to EA and their "enablers".

# 355 booker21 @ 07/21/11 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by BaylorBearBryant


	Thank you for the update.

This means that after the patch people will have to rename their roster again?
thank god for the roster share then

hopefully, they can revert back to the default tendencies without having to redo the whole names.

# 356 aarontab @ 07/21/11 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by BaylorBearBryant


	YES, THIS!!! I'm amazed at the people who come on here and say it isn't a bug, and they're not READING correctly. READ! There's 35+ pages of confirmation! READ BEFORE YOU POST! Make sure you're sure of what we're talking about.

It still might not be a "bug", IF IN FACT it's just a tendency change that is done without regard to the ratings, i.e. the devs saying "this is what we want the ratings to be, but we know this dude is a scrambler". You can tell they do that because of how recruits turn out VS actual players when you start the game. In years past, the "Play Now" ratings were much higher than the "actual total ratings Dynasty mode team select" ratings were. Remember? I know what you're getting at, but BUG is different than "we didn't realize that just editing names would remove our roster tweaks".

# 357 booker21 @ 07/21/11 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by jcern23


	How long does a patch typically take? A couple days week a month I have no clue anyone know from previous years

couple of month considering they just released the 1st patch,

# 358 northface28 @ 07/21/11 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by RynoAid


	EA knows about it and has confirmed it's an issue. They are working on a potential resolution that would be included in a 2nd patch already in the works. that's all i got right now.

Looks at "potential resolution" skeptically. I think this issue is bigger than we realize, hopefully im wrong.

# 359 Gotmadskillzson @ 07/21/11 03:36 PM

I tested this out on 44 games, default all american, 9 minute quarters over the past week now.

It is a very clear pattern when playing with named rosters and EA default roster.

Kept playing with the same teams.

Ohio St vs Arkansas
Michigan vs Notre Dame

Pryor and Robinson were a night and day difference. And so was the pass rushing. With names the DTs got better pash rush and way more sacks then the DEs.

On EA default roster, DEs got more sacks because they actually rushed the passer.

# 360 BaylorBearBryant @ 07/21/11 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by aarontab


	It still might not be a "bug", IF IN FACT it's just a tendency change that is done without regard to the ratings, i.e. the devs saying "this is what we want the ratings to be, but we know this dude is a scrambler". You can tell they do that because of how recruits turn out VS actual players when you start the game. In years past, the "Play Now" ratings were much higher than the "actual total ratings Dynasty mode team select" ratings were. Remember? I know what you're getting at, but BUG is different than "we didn't realize that just editing names would remove our roster tweaks".

Your sentences and thoughts are convoluted.

I know what you're getting at, but BUG is different than "we didn't realize that just editing names would remove our roster tweaks".

How is that not a BUG!? I go and edit someone's shoes and his player tendency complete reverses! Not to mention, it's obvious now that a player tendency is KEY to the way a player acts on the field. A player is playing the opposite way of his tendency.

That's a BUG!

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