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Providing Detail and Clarity to Changes Found in NCAA Football 12 Dynasty Mode

02:38 PM - May 23, 2011 by canes21

The Gaming Tailgate has posted a bunch of specific and in-depth details about Dynasty mode that might not find their way into standard previews and press releases. These details come via a community-based Q&A session, and as with most Q&As about very specific details, there is more negatives than positives to be found here.

One negative thing coming from the Q&A is the confirmation about the lack of individual coaching ratings, which means the Coaching Carousel loses a bit of luster. If you put the pieces of the puzzle together, you sort of already knew this was coming based on some of the details that had previously been released about Dynasty mode, but it's still a little disappointing to hear. However, coach prestige will impact results during simulations, and it will still impact recruiting via the "pitches" previously in the game. These caveats should not be overlooked. Since coaches will now recruit for their playbook and style of play, if you take over a job and want to recruit for a new system, that will provide a whole new layer of challenge that was not there previously.

In addition, you can't hire your own coordinators once you're the head coach, and really, why would you if the coaches don't have ratings -- the only thing playing a part in the decision would be the playbook at that point, and you have control of that if you want. However, if you want an extra layer of challenge, you could build your team based off each coordinator's playbook, which could change your recruiting strategy at various points because the CPU Athletic Director could hire/fire coordinators.

On the positive side of things, it does seem it will be a slow burn to get from a "D" prestige to an "A" prestige level. You can also share coaches within the roster, so roster makers can now edit all the coaches in addition to all the players. Continuing with the customization positives, you can edit conferences throughout a dynasty, not just before the first year. Lastly, early signs point to simulated stats being more on point this year.

Head over to The Gaming Tailgate to get the rest of the details.

Source - Dynasty Info Q&A Thread (The Gaming Tailgate)

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# 41 RynoAid @ 05/23/11 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Roggie


	Okay, then we have to look at it this way. Actual coaches mean nothing besides a prestige/experience rating for recruiting. We could have just had teams randomly change playbooks and basically gotten the same experience, if you really think about it.

it effects the PROGRESSION of players... that is huge IMO. A down program can hire an A+ prestige coach and see a tangible impact to a team as players progress more than with a lower tier coach.

# 42 DorianDonP @ 05/23/11 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by RynoAid


	it effects the PROGRESSION of players... that is huge IMO. A down program can hire an A+ prestige coach and see a tangible impact to a team as players progress more than with a lower tier coach.

That's been confirmed? If so, then that does make me feel a little better.

# 43 canes21 @ 05/23/11 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by RynoAid


	it effects the PROGRESSION of players... that is huge IMO. A down program can hire an A+ prestige coach and see a tangible impact to a team as players progress more than with a lower tier coach.

I did not know that and it is nice to see, but I still am very disappointed in how EA has handled the CC. I know most of you disagree with me, but if we had no CC this year, but next year we got one that was at least on the same level as 2k8, then I'd be happy.

At least EA has a base to build on and it should be their biggest focus next year.

# 44 BenGerman @ 05/23/11 03:38 PM

People are over reacting for many reasons.

1) They have said that just because Missouri runs a certain play style typically, doesn't mean they will now hire someone else with the same playbook. It only boosts the chances they will hire someone with a similar playbook. This is realistic, as programs are doing it just about everywhere you look. Army is more likely to hire someone who can come in and run the Option. USC is more likely to hire someone who runs a Pro-Style offense. Once again, they said someone is more likely to be hired if they have a similar play-style, they never said it is automatic that they will hire someone with a different play-style. You will still see changes in the way offenses and defenses are run.

2) I guess I am different from everyone else, but the real joy of CC for me is to take a low job, and build my way up. Ratings effect the game nicely, but its not that big of a deal if its not in their first year of implementing such a huge feature. From what I understand, Prestige Rating is some what of a general coach rating, so obviously it is still going to matter what kind of coach you hire.

3) Take a second and compare it to what we had before, and still tell me that you're truly disappointed with the advancements made in NCAA 12. It used to be, I'd start out at FAU. A year later, I'm being offered the Michigan job. This year, I'd start as a Offensive Coordinator at FAU. Maybe through 5-6 years of progressing through my career, I can end up at a school Head Coaching. Maybe it's just me, but that alone is intensely gratifying.

# 45 RynoAid @ 05/23/11 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by DorianDonP


	That's been confirmed? If so, then that does make me feel a little better.

yes, im confirming it....

if you want to read more about my impressions from hands on with the game for 100+ hours... go here.. http://traditionsportsonline.com/ea-...tails-revealed

# 46 justblaze09 @ 05/23/11 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by canes21


	I did not know that and it is nice to see, but I still am very disappointed in how EA has handled the CC. I know most of you disagree with me, but if we had no CC this year, but next year we got one that was at least on the same level as 2k8, then I'd be happy. At least EA has a base to build on and it should be their biggest focus next year.

It really took the 2K team 5 games to get the CC we got in 2K8. You could go out and search for jobs in 2K4. That's the biggest misconception when it comes to the whole 2K8 CC thing.

# 47 PikeJR23 @ 05/23/11 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by RynoAid


	yes, im confirming it....

Is this an official confirmation or half-jokingly stated?

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# 48 Da Hype Iz Real @ 05/23/11 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by BenGerman


	People are over reacting for many reasons. 1) They have said that just because Missouri runs a certain play style typically, doesn't mean they will now hire someone else with the same playbook. It only boosts the chances they will hire someone with a similar playbook. This is realistic, as programs are doing it just about everywhere you look. Army is more likely to hire someone who can come in and run the Option. USC is more likely to hire someone who runs a Pro-Style offense. Once again, they said someone is more likely to be hired if they have a similar play-style, they never said it is automatic that they will hire someone with a different play-style. You will still see changes in the way offenses and defenses are run. 2) I guess I am different from everyone else, but the real joy of CC for me is to take a low job, and build my way up. Ratings effect the game nicely, but its not that big of a deal if its not in their first year of implementing such a huge feature. From what I understand, Prestige Rating is some what of a general coach rating, so obviously it is still going to matter what kind of coach you hire. 3) Take a second and compare it to what we had before, and still tell me that you're truly disappointed with the advancements made in NCAA 12. It used to be, I'd start out at FAU. A year later, I'm being offered the Michigan job. This year, I'd start as a Offensive Coordinator at FAU. Maybe through 5-6 years of progressing through my career, I can end up at a school Head Coaching. Maybe it's just me, but that alone is intensely gratifying.

I'm slightly worried about the degree of difficulty of this on TGT Dynasty Question and Answer it was mentioned that one guy was able to go from OC at Akron to the OC at Baylor the next year.

# 49 canes21 @ 05/23/11 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by BenGerman


	People are over reacting for many reasons. 1) They have said that just because Missouri runs a certain play style typically, doesn't mean they will now hire someone else with the same playbook. It only boosts the chances they will hire someone with a similar playbook. This is realistic, as programs are doing it just about everywhere you look. Army is more likely to hire someone who can come in and run the Option. USC is more likely to hire someone who runs a Pro-Style offense. Once again, they said someone is more likely to be hired if they have a similar play-style, they never said it is automatic that they will hire someone with a different play-style. You will still see changes in the way offenses and defenses are run. 2) I guess I am different from everyone else, but the real joy of CC for me is to take a low job, and build my way up. Ratings effect the game nicely, but its not that big of a deal if its not in their first year of implementing such a huge feature. From what I understand, Prestige Rating is some what of a general coach rating, so obviously it is still going to matter what kind of coach you hire. 3) Take a second and compare it to what we had before, and still tell me that you're truly disappointed with the advancements made in NCAA 12. It used to be, I'd start out at FAU. A year later, I'm being offered the Michigan job. This year, I'd start as a Offensive Coordinator at FAU. Maybe through 5-6 years of progressing through my career, I can end up at a school Head Coaching. Maybe it's just me, but that alone is intensely gratifying.

I am not disappointed in the advancements of the game, but I am disappointed in the quality of the advancements. We got dreads, but at one ridiculously long length. We get a Coaching Carousel, but its missing the most important part.

It will be nice to see in year 2525 that Penn State has Poe Jaterno as their new coach, but if the only thing he has an affect on is the playbook and his players get one more overall point per progression, then it isn't that major of a change. One thing I am interested in is if Alabama has not finished a season with over 7 wins in 10 years, are they still only going to hire coaches with at least an A- Prestige or will they be realistic and try and get someone with a B and hope he progresses and builds the program back up?

As for your third point, we don't know whether or not we'll have realistic job movement and coach progression. I am assuming going 10-2 3 straight seasons will make your C Prestige coach a B at least, but we don't know yet. We also don't know if going 10-2 as the coordinator at FAU will only give us more coordinator positions, or if the game will still want to give us that Michigan HC job right away.

# 50 Roggie @ 05/23/11 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by RynoAid


	it effects the PROGRESSION of players... that is huge IMO. A down program can hire an A+ prestige coach and see a tangible impact to a team as players progress more than with a lower tier coach.

Had I known this, I wouldn't have been arguing. Glad to know we got a little extra info out of this.

# 51 DorianDonP @ 05/23/11 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by RynoAid


	yes, im confirming it.... if you want to read more about my impressions from hands on with the game for 100+ hours... go here.. http://traditionsportsonline.com/ea-...tails-revealed

Good look. I like the blog.

# 52 da ThRONe @ 05/23/11 03:54 PM

I won't trip unless they fail to make sure that next year all the real vital aspects of CC are in.

# 53 jpdavis82 @ 05/23/11 03:55 PM

RynoAid, are you going to write a blog about custom conferences? There seems to be a lot of questions and concerns about how the BCS system will work and if big time schools will end up in crappy bowls if they are moved to a smaller conference.

# 54 hkwforAUTigers @ 05/23/11 04:01 PM

My main problem is that NCAA 12 will be pretty weak compared to Madden. Im happy that coaches have some affect on progression, but only 2 ratings? Really? no improved offseason? this is a HUGE letdown.
I love College Football so much, I go to probably 3-4 games per year, I literally live and breath college football, but this game is seriously disappointing to me. I may buy madden instead. help me find some light guys!

# 55 FedExPope @ 05/23/11 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by RynoAid


	it effects the PROGRESSION of players... that is huge IMO. A down program can hire an A+ prestige coach and see a tangible impact to a team as players progress more than with a lower tier coach.

That's what the Athletic Facilities rating did last year. I wonder if now it has no impact on the game besides giving you a pitch option since coaches have taken their place. Or maybe they both stack onto each other now.

# 56 jwilphl @ 05/23/11 04:01 PM

120 team cap still? Ugh. Talk about a buzzkill. Well since a good percentage of the answers to questions in that link are "no" it seems good to wait until next year, again.

# 57 PikeJR23 @ 05/23/11 04:03 PM

Based on Ryno's blog about how Coach Prestige affects progression I'm even more satisfied with the upgrades (for now). This means great coaches will produce greater players. So now we could see great coaches take 3 star or in some cases 2 star recruits and make them solid starters or even NFL prospects. Can't wait for tomorrow and friday's blogs.

# 58 canes21 @ 05/23/11 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by PikeJR23


	Based on Ryno's blog about how Coach Prestige affects progression I'm even more satisfied with the upgrades (for now). This means great coaches will produce greater players. So now we could see great coaches take 3 star or in some cases 2 star recruits and make them solid starters or even NFL prospects. Can't wait for tomorrow and friday's blogs.

This also means Rich Rod would produce better defensive players than any coach with a lower prestige than him, but we all know that Rich Rod has defensive players get worse under him in real life.

Spoiler

# 59 sparkdawg777 @ 05/23/11 04:06 PM

Toe anyone saying this lack of a CC is ok because it is the first year,

Was it not College Hoops 2k8's first year with CC when they implemented theirs? If so is it not a shame that EA had a basis of CC that they could learn from and instead only took 5% of it?

With that being said this game still looks a lot better than previous versions but I was so hyped about CC and when it's finally in it is actually pretty disappointing. Honestly without the leaked RTG info I would be pretty mad today about the dynasty info. Kudos to the new RTG dev who in 1 year not only kept this mode alive (which I like) but possibly made it a better mode than dynasty. I mean I am extremely excited that I am going to be able to replay my Senior season! And not only that but I can recreate the schedule with TB? AWESOME

# 60 illwill10 @ 05/23/11 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by sparkdawg777


	Toe anyone saying this lack of a CC is ok because it is the first year, Was it not College Hoops 2k8's first year with CC when they implemented theirs? If so is it not a shame that EA had a basis of CC that they could learn from and instead only took 5% of it? With that being said this game still looks a lot better than previous versions but I was so hyped about CC and when it's finally in it is actually pretty disappointing. Honestly without the leaked RTG info I would be pretty mad today about the dynasty info. Kudos to the new RTG dev who in 1 year not only kept this mode alive (which I like) but possibly made it a better mode than dynasty. I mean I am extremely excited that I am going to be able to replay my Senior season! And not only that but I can recreat the schedule with TB? AWESOME

I was not expecting a 2K8 type of CC. But I was disappointed that there might not be anything else added besides Tuning. IE Spring Game and other stuff. I hope we can play on a TB team. That would make my day. MY hopes are that you can set Quarter Lengths and improved Coach play calling
With the RTG info this made my day. This will probably might be my #1 mode this year.

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