The MLB 2K11 demo is available now. Add it to your download queue right here.
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*UPDATE: PS3 demo is available now.
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"Begin your quest for perfection on the baseball diamond with the Major League Baseball 2K11 demo, available now for download. Play a three inning game with the San Francisco Giants and Texas Rangers at AT&T Park and get an early taste of 2K11’s Revamped Fielding System and improved Total Control Pitching & Hitting. Perfect YOUR game with Major League Baseball 2K11, in stores March 8!"
When is the last time you played the PS3 version of 2K10? I played it right before the demo. The games look almost identical other than the improved player models in 2K11 imo.
Last year. In fact, I didn't buy the game, but just played a friends. Almost bought the game just for the graphics though. Secretly though the stadiums looked more realistic than The Shows (couldn't say that to some of my friends though ). Glad I didn't though, because after I played it a few more times all of the bugs came to the surface.
This years graphics look horrible to me. Biggest turn off so far.
For the record, it's impossible to implement "real baseball motion" on a video game controller. And since it was the only baseball game up until this year to even have analog controls, it's obvious they are just not for you since they are done as good as can be done given the circumstances. That "other" game (which I do love and always buy day one) failed big time on trying to do analog this year, so it's no easy feat.
I agree, the other games analog isn't too good either, but at least it mimics real life pitching with sort of a rock n fire motion. This is just random stick movements. Plus it's too easy to hit your spots. Takes the fun out of it.
It's obvious I wont win, but that is fine. Enjoy your game. Hopefully my friend will buy it again this year (he didn't like it last year either) so i can try the final version again before making any final decisions.
Think what you want. Just because I like the Show, and didn't have high opes for this game doesn't mean my opinion doesn't mean anything. Besides, with all the negative reviews, I don't think mine are out of line.
I took the time to download, and play 3 games so far. I have said that the 360 version looks better in video than the PS3 version, and that my gripes are about this version.
Just because some people enjoy inferior games doesn't mean they need to get all bent out of shape and start accusing people of trolling when they give it a bad review.
Wow... finally got a chance to play through this a few times... and as much as I was looking forward to playing all day, man am I feeling let down at this point. I want so badly to have two games to play, and I was pretty damn excited about 2K this year but... yeesh.
The first thing my gf and I both noticed... what happened to the graphics on PS3? I SERIOUSLY hope you guys on 360 are getting a better looking game than this, because, in my opinion, things took a step back this year on PS3... pretty damn ugly honestly, mainly due to an abundance of low res textures and jaggies EVERYwhere. Blech.
HOWEVER, I'm definitely seeing the gameplay improvements (which when all is said and done is probably what's most important, especially for those with a limited choice). Things are running VERY smooth (other than popups obviously), fielding feels MUCH better, and batting feels really, really solid. There is definitely a fun factor to 2K's brand of baseball, and it's pretty obvious they put their work in here. If commentary was in, I would be that much more immersed.
Basically... gameplay = fun, graphics = borderline ugly, and a step back. Like I said, I really hope for the 360 guys, that the game looks better. I wish 2K could figure out how to make it work across the board, but for Xbox owners that only have one choice, they certainly deserve better graphically than what I just spent time looking at on PS3.
Gameplay and presentation can overshadow a lot of that though, and luckily 2K seems to be starting to hit their stride in that department. Fix the ugliness, and some of those wonky zombie animations, and we could have a very good game on our hands.
Exactly. Never. I was accused of it, and I pointed out that I was not. You guys don't like my honest opinions, fine, but don't go accusing me of trolling. I am in here to give my opinion on the game. I have that right, last time I checked.
EDIT: Man, I am done with the demo. Plus, I don't feel like defending myself every time I don't like something. Will give the game a go in a couple of weeks (hopefully), and see what I think of the retail version, but def wont spend $60 on what I saw here.
Pretty sure I am gonna pass on this one. Didn't have very high hopes going in, and they made it clear that the developers didn't either.
Uhhh, what? So far, they've fixed every complaint I had from 2K10. Yeah, the graphics aren't perfect, but I'm definitely glad they focused on the gameplay first.
But if you're going to pass, that's cool. Thanks for stopping by at least
I'm on a 61" HDTV and not really noticing it. Since jaggie shadows have nothing to do with the actual gameplay it hasn't stood out for me, but I could imagine if that's all you look at it could be a problem. The framerate issue is only on fouls and popups for me but doesn't affect how the game plays at all, so again, for me it's not an issue but everyone is different. But it has been reported that those that have played a later build did not notice the issues the demo has.
What specific TV are you on? I bet its one with "Game Mode" built in right?
I got my 42" Panasonic Viera 1080p Plasma on sale for $799 two years ago, so that might be the price I pay for a good bargain...Disappointing to say the least
- The two-seam fastball (and probably the cutter as well), like last year, uses pinpoint control as opposed to breakpoint control. It might be because they're fastballs so we should assume the pitchers know how to pinpoint what they're going to do with it, but I always seem to forget that when I'm actually selecting the pitch. I think they should all be breakpoint pitches (where the four-seamer is just straight anyway so there is no effect). I forget how the sinker reacts to this.
Hey Blzer, are you sure about this, man? It seems to me the two-seamers are definitely breakpoint control, same as 2K10. With a RHP, they always break to the right of where I put the ball cursor and end up a few inches over to the right. If they were pinpoint, wouldn't that mean they would end up where I place the cursor? Or do I just need to lay off the doobies and work on my pitching gestures? hehe
Think what you want. Just because I like the Show, and didn't have high opes for this game doesn't mean my opinion doesn't mean anything. Besides, with all the negative reviews, I don't think mine are out of line.
I took the time to download, and play 3 games so far. I have said that the 360 version looks better in video than the PS3 version, and that my gripes are about this version.
Just because some people enjoy inferior games doesn't mean they need to get all bent out of shape and start accusing people of trolling when they give it a bad review.
Thank you very much, and have a nice evening.
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When did I say that?
Exactly. Never. I was accused of it, and I pointed out that I was not. You guys don't like my honest opinions, fine, but don't go accusing me of trolling. I am in here to give my opinion on the game. I have that right, last time I checked.
EDIT: Man, I am done with the demo. Plus, I don't feel like defending myself every time I don't like something. Will give the game a go in a couple of weeks (hopefully), and see what I think of the retail version, but def wont spend $60 on what I saw here.
You are right. That is my bad. You never accused anyone of trolling. However you, yourself were trolling with your "Just because some people enjoy inferior games" comment. What you consider an inferior game might be a great game for someone else.
Check swings are definitely in, Idk who said they weren't or why they said it. I've done more than a couple, but all were accidental, mostly because I commit too much to all of my swings.
Actually, I'm not that impressed with the overall demo after playing about two games...some of the animations just look weird and rushed to me...for example, the way the baserunners run and the way some of the fielders field the ball and throw it just looks weird.
What I do love about MLB 2K11 is the batting camera It's very easy for me pick up pitches, see what kind of pitch is coming, and adjust accordingly...very nice.
Other than that, nothing really jumps out at me about this being a great game, so far...maybe it's just the hollow feel of the demo that's just not doing it for me.
its amazing to me that some people get warnings for legitimately making comparisons between the Show and 2k (you know, constructive posts), and then someone like emath shows up and trolls the hell out of this thread and nothing...
seriously, complaining that 2k's stick movements aren't realistic... its a video game, you're using your thumbs! And then your response to the "unrealistic sticks" is to play with what, uber realistic button scheme? If you want realistic motions, why don't you try leaving the house and throwing a baseball
and anyway, maybe the motions aren't trying to replicate what it's like to actually pitch a baseball... it seems to me it is intentionally more of a hybrid between that and mimicking the spin you would expect from each type of pitch. If you can't see the logic in the motions from say a normal curve, to a 12-6 curve, to a knuckle curve, then idk what to say. But it makes pretty damn good sense to me.
and bitching about the "terrible" batting camera. Guess what, apparently 2k doesn't make their games for you, because everyone else seems to think the camera is pretty damn good.
I mean, I'm a fan of legitimate complains as much as the next guy (like the still too frequent soft liners for example), but what are you trying to accomplish by coming in here and ranting and raving about stuff that 99% of gamers think 2k actually got right.
Well said, pal. I was gonna post something earlier about this very type of thing. Its bothersome to read "Show this" and "Show that" all the time, especially when people flat out dismiss the game because it's not The Show. I'm as big a fan of The Show as any person on these boards and would like to see SOME minor elements of that game implemented in 2K's (which I mentioned in my impressions earlier in the thread). But what I definitely don't want is The Show Jr., which it seems some people are asking for.
There is no reason why any open-minded individual can't enjoy TWO baseball games, especially with two games that approach the game of baseball so differently. The Show is the most polished, authentic replication of any sports game out there (imo) so yeah, its better than the 2K game. And of course this game is missing that level of polish that The Show has. This series has bounced from one developer to another and another, never being allowed to fully realize their respective vision for the game. The Show has had largely the same dev team working on it for close to a frickin decade. How can you compare the two fairly?
I, along with many on here, like where this game is headed. If you don't like it, nobody is telling you that you have to. But when I read that the pitching in this game is stupid/unrealistic/worse than The Show's etc. then I am led to believe that an individual is hating for the sake of hating. The pitching in this game is arguably the most organic analog control scheme ever created for a sports game. Its fair to say "its not for me". Not fair to say any of the other criticisms I've read in here and it makes me question the poster's motive and dis-regard their "opinion" altogether.
not sure if it's because of the difficulty or what, but I hit a ball in the gap which rolled to the wall and the fielder picked it up and stood there for about a second before throwing it to the cutoff man, and then the cutoff man stood for another second before throwing to home to attempt to get my runner out that I had on first base. Scored on a play where he definitely should have been held to 3rd.
Another thing, some of the animations are no good. You can kind of notice that they will "snap" from one animation into the next. Not fluid.
I squeezed three games in today and like what I see so far.
Hitting feels better than it did last year and the improved hit variety is a big help. I can only imagine that on higher difficulties, the hit variety is even better (due the lack of consistent contact). I've seen slow rollers, choppers, line drives, looping liners into the gaps, slicing line shots... you name it. The physics of a rolling ball are much, much better as well. Pitching is also sublime and the lower tier pitchers certainly have trouble locating.
Visually, it's a mixed bag. The game is smoother than last year (the extra animations help) but it's still not pretty. I long for the day MLB2K is visually comparable to NBA2K.
- I like the atmosphere of the game, the constant murmur of the crowd, PA, ect.
- I like the cartoon graphics of the game (almost like half cartoon, half claymation), for me it adds to the FUN factor of 2k's offering; I also like the color palatte.
- While the animations have improved, they are still overall pretty goofy. Mainly in the fielding - players throw from awkward and unrealistic positions with cannon arm strength looking in the other direction of the base they are throwing; football catches are still in for infielders (turn around and look at the ball already!); and why does everyone running full speed down the first base line basically stop on a dime when they are thrown out? How about "running through the bag" animations 2k?
- Hitting, batting and throwing mechanics all work fine, although I prefer button pressing for hitting and throwing. I don't FEEL the big difference in fielding that was being touted...feels just like last year to me...i don't feel MORE in control of the fielder than in years past, i just have the little bar now to tell me how hard/accurate I am throwing. But I will say the the outfielders circle is a nice addition.
- Swinging the bat still feels like wiffle ball, but at least it seems like the ball goes in the direction it goes based on the timing of the hit and the placement of the pitch.
- I'm not crazy about any of the camera angles. I need a different angle for when I hit the ball then the one they have in the demo...I prefer to have the angle that I have when fielding the ball for when after I've made a hit.
- A few oddities: Top of first with Kinsler on base, one out. Hamilton hits a towering ball to left field and I am prompted to press square to wall climb. Even though I'm barely at the warning track I press square anyway out of desperation. My fielders warps to the wall and makes a leap, coming down with the ball somehow. I hear the ump say "OUT." But Then the screen reads HOME RUN and it is a 2 run homer - the scoreboard reads 2-0. I retire Cruz for the (3rd?) out, and the side is retired.
- Secondly, two out with runner on first and second, and I hit a ball off the top of the right field wall...like off the very top of the wall. It scores the run from 2nd. However, on the replay I notice that the runner got about 5 feet from home plate, stopped dead in his tracks and got in the "lead off the base" animation, then sprinted towards home (if you can sprint five feet, but he took off like he had 90 feet ahead of him). I guess the AI was waiting to see if the ball was going to be caught? First of all, the ball hit off the top of that high wall. Secondly, there were two outs, so why stop?
I hope more bugs like these are not in the final product.
I just played a game and the CPU made the worst substitutions ever to try and catch up while down 4-0.
Washington starts making pinch hit moves left and right while I have Zito on the mound starting in the first inning. Moreland out, Young In, Torrealba out, Davis in. Bourbon out, someone else in. When the final batter in the 3rd inning comes to the plate with the bases loaded and 2 outs tying run on 2nd, there is the relief pitcher Lowe coming to bat with no more subs left on the bench.
Well. I've played two games and I'm 100% in picking guys off at 3rd. I've tried twice and been successful twice. Both times the runner started back, but instead of going to the base, he went to the right of it while shuffling his feet the entire time. Tagged out easily.
Other than that I really haven't had any issues to speak of. The choppy camera on foul balls doesn't bother me in the least. I would like to know if there's a button to cancel a throw, however.
I just found a big bug. I haven't looked through the entire thread so someone might have already said it.
Anyway. First inning as the Rangers. They get two quick outs. Hamilton hits a homerun over the right field wall then Cruz follows that with a triple. Adrian Beltre up. He hits one deep into centerfield. I see the fans 6 rows back stand up. Andres Torres goes through the wall and catches it but it counts as a homerun and an out. So I'm up 3-0 going into the bottom of the first having only got out twice.
Had the exact same thing. Score was 0-0. 2 outs, nobody on base.
I hit one out of the park, but the leftfielder climbs the wall and then somehow morphs into the wall, or through it. He catches the ball somewhere behind that wall. On my screen the words "out" and "homerun" are written. So, a homerun and an out. Its scored as a run.
Really do not like that. High foul balls behind the catcher makes players go soooo sloooooow.
Don't like the new camera at all. Hit a homerun on the very 1st pitch i got, but could not see the ball for the life of me.
Replays still suck, only showing the runners.
I loved mlb2k10 but am really not digging this at all.
Does nobody see the huge jagged edges on EVERY player and shadow model???????
It's ridiculous, they are obvious to anyone using a large plasma or any HDTV
This along with the framerate inconsistency and the jarring animations make this a no buy for me....This is ESPECIALLY frustrating considering I haven't bought a baseball game since 2k7 ARGHHHHHH
I'm on a "50 panasonic, and there's no jaggies. I'm on the 360 version. If you're sitting 3 feet away from the tv, that might be a problem.