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MLB 11 The Show: Franchise Trade and Off Season Logic Has Been Massively Improved

06:28 PM - January 24, 2011 by Russell_SCEA

This is a very very late addition/change to MLB 11 The Show. Kolbe and Jeff Ulman, one of our senior AI programmers, went into the cave this past weekend and re-wrote a massive amount of code for trades and off-season logic for franchise mode.

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# 281 IAHawks1903 @ 02/28/11 04:35 PM

Are any of you guys planning on doing 30-team control for your '11 franchise while still just focusing on your team? I really liked the ability to be the "czar" of my MLB universe last year and fix the little things that I did not like. Even with the improved logic, I wouldn't mind the ability to go in and reject a trade here or there that I feel isn't appropriate. Hopefully, the logic is to the point where no intervention is needed, but w/ 30 team control, I would just turn everything to CPU for everybody but my team and leave myself the OPTION to step in if need be. I don't really see a downside outside of the draft taking longer, but I can handle that once/year.

# 282 Knight165 @ 02/28/11 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by IAHawks1903


	Are any of you guys planning on doing 30-team control for your '11 franchise while still just focusing on your team? I really liked the ability to be the "czar" of my MLB universe last year and fix the little things that I did not like. Even with the improved logic, I wouldn't mind the ability to go in and reject a trade here or there that I feel isn't appropriate. Hopefully, the logic is to the point where no intervention is needed, but w/ 30 team control, I would just turn everything to CPU for everybody but my team and leave myself the OPTION to step in if need be. I don't really see a downside outside of the draft taking longer, but I can handle that once/year.

I am.
I like 30 team control too much to step away from it.

M.K.
Knight165

# 283 adam914 @ 02/28/11 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by IAHawks1903


	Are any of you guys planning on doing 30-team control for your '11 franchise while still just focusing on your team? I really liked the ability to be the "czar" of my MLB universe last year and fix the little things that I did not like. Even with the improved logic, I wouldn't mind the ability to go in and reject a trade here or there that I feel isn't appropriate. Hopefully, the logic is to the point where no intervention is needed, but w/ 30 team control, I would just turn everything to CPU for everybody but my team and leave myself the OPTION to step in if need be. I don't really see a downside outside of the draft taking longer, but I can handle that once/year.

Yeah, I agree. I don't really see a downside to using it. You have the option of jumping in if you feel the need, or can just stay out of it. I'd hate to not set it up and then halfway through the season see something that I can't live without changing. Plus I think it actually helped me keep up with things going on around the league better that I might have otherwise totally missed.

# 284 econoodle @ 03/01/11 03:03 AM

*bangs silverware on the table*
WE WANT PICS! WE WANT PICS!

ok 'I' want pics.
lol

# 285 sparty404 @ 03/01/11 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Jdurg


	That's probably because the demo build was from some time in December of last year where a great deal of the new stuff we have been seeing and hearing about was not yet implemented into the code. Basically, the demo is ONLY intended to showcase the analog controls.

I heard the info about the timing of the demo build, but why would they release a demo build that de-motivates a significant piece of your fan base? I bought at PS3 two years ago just for The Show, but what I saw in the demo felt exactly the same as previous years with the exception of the analog controls...now I'm depressed and in limbo about whether or not I'm buying the game this year or not.

In theory, if the demo does a poor job of representing the overall polished product, I question the value in the demo release at all.

# 286 Polo Bandit @ 03/02/11 01:06 AM

Sorry if this was already covered, but is the Type A and B free agency not preset this year? Last year it seemed based purely on overall rating and nothing to do with stats.

# 287 MrOldboy @ 03/02/11 01:23 AM

Is anything going to be done about the way players chose to retire?

I saw players at age 35 retire after seasons where they had career years because of age. It gets frustrating when my RTTS player makes to the majors and there are nearly no veterans left.

# 288 jtott @ 03/03/11 10:10 PM

I do not know if this has been brought up recently or not.... About a month ago, maybe longer, there was something mentioned about improving or making some changes to the trade logic in the game this year. I have not seen any follow up to this... unless I'm not looking in the right place. Has anyone heard / know anything about the changes , if indeed there is any?

Thanks

# 289 hitstreak13 @ 03/04/11 02:03 AM

I would like to know this as well. I wish they would make separate threads such as "franchise feedback," "gameplay feedback," "RTTS feedback" etc.

The Q&A is so cluttered with different questions and answers that I have a hard time finding the answers I need. Oh well, can't wait to see what people have to say about franchise mode in general.

# 290 jtott @ 03/04/11 02:14 AM

The Q&A is so cluttered with different questions and answers that I have a hard time finding the answers I need. Oh well, can't wait to see what people have to say about franchise mode in general.[/quote]

I agree...

# 291 Bat @ 03/04/11 02:16 AM

I also agree

# 292 jtott @ 03/04/11 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by travis72


	There was a thread on this not to long ago that said trade logic was Massively improved.

That's my question... what were the improvements? I don't recall seeing any follow up to this.

# 293 Knight165 @ 03/04/11 10:13 AM

How would we know?...the game isn't released yet.

M.K.
Knight165

# 294 hitstreak13 @ 03/04/11 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Knight165


	How would we know?...the game isn't released yet. M.K. Knight165

I guess he was referring to those who do have the game. I have asked a few franchise based questions, but they get lost so easily with questions about RTTS, gameplay, etc. I just wish they had a thread for each area, so if someone wants to ask a question about franchise, just go to the franchise thread and bam. Just my opinion though.

# 295 leafs nation @ 03/04/11 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by hitstreak13


	I guess he was referring to those who do have the game. I have asked a few franchise based questions, but they get lost so easily with questions about RTTS, gameplay, etc. I just wish they had a thread for each area, so if someone wants to ask a question about franchise, just go to the franchise thread and bam. Just my opinion though.

I wish things weren't so regimented. After all it is just a video game forum.
I hear you about questions getting lost. I can see how there is good with it too though as this site has grown.

# 296 nonnel @ 03/04/11 05:57 PM

I think the original thread said exactly what was improved. Trade logic. That's the improvement. Not trying to be sarcastic, but what more information are you looking for? It means that the logic in which the cpu trades with is more realistic, hence improved. Improved trade logic. There you go.

# 297 theaub @ 03/04/11 09:03 PM

I think the logic looks improved; you still have the problems with players who IRL wouldn't be traded, but at the end of the day it would make sense for these guys to be moved.

For example, I just simmed to July 31st. Sabathia and Hughes got hurt and the Yanks are in 4th in the East...so they shipped Jeter to the Cubs for Castro and a good prospect. Makes sense to me since the Cubs are fighting for 1st in the Central (if anything the Cubs got ripped)

Other "name" guys who got traded were Rios (2 A prospects), Burnett (for Mike Minor), V-Dub (doesn't make $26 mil in this game hah), Teixiera (um...guess the Yanks are really going firesale mode haha...got Freeman + 2 A prospects though), Slowey and Tejada

You could argue with the Yankees firesale, but I think its pretty solid. Yanks system is absolutely loaded now too.

# 298 Heroesandvillains @ 03/04/11 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by theaub


	I think the logic looks improved; you still have the problems with players who IRL wouldn't be traded, but at the end of the day it would make sense for these guys to be moved. For example, I just simmed to July 31st. Sabathia and Hughes got hurt and the Yanks are in 4th in the East...so they shipped Jeter to the Cubs for Castro and a good prospect. Makes sense to me since the Cubs are fighting for 1st in the Central (if anything the Cubs got ripped) Other "name" guys who got traded were Rios (2 A prospects), Burnett (for Mike Minor), V-Dub (doesn't make $26 mil in this game hah), Teixiera (um...guess the Yanks are really going firesale mode haha...got Freeman + 2 A prospects though), Slowey and Tejada You could argue with the Yankees firesale, but I think its pretty solid. Yanks system is absolutely loaded now too.

If that's all of the 'name' players that got dealt, than that seems pretty improved to me.

Do you recall how many years Jeter, Tex, and Burnett had remaining?

# 299 theaub @ 03/04/11 09:17 PM

I assume it was the same as real life but I just closed the game (Hawk game's on in a bit hah) so I'm not 100% sure.

Also virtually all of the trades happened within a week of the deadline, and more on the 31st than any other day. The only "name" guy who got traded before July was Slowey.

# 300 Heroesandvillains @ 03/04/11 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by theaub


	I assume it was the same as real life but I just closed the game (Hawk game's on in a bit hah) so I'm not 100% sure. Also virtually all of the trades happened within a week of the deadline, and more on the 31st than any other day. The only "name" guy who got traded before July was Slowey.

This is great news!

As far as the contract length, the Show does not duplicate real to life years.

It's also encouraging to see a powerhouse team, way out of it, be one of the only teams unloading superstars.

Thanks. Enjoy the game...Uh....both games! LOL

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