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NBA 2K11 Demo Roundtable

04:22 PM - September 16, 2010 by RaychelSnr

1. What is the best thing about the demo?

Dustin Toms - The presentation looks fantastic. With the demo being so bare, it really stands out. The crowd atmosphere looks like it may the best to ever grace a sports game, and the score hub in the corner is eerily reminiscent of TNT. I think 2K is really on point with the overall presentation.

Chris Sanner - The presentation, the atmosphere, the gameplay -- shoot, the title screens even looks great. Once you get in the game, I am having a hard time finding much fault with 2K11. The entire package just looks legitimately smooth and excellent. But for me, the presentation really has taken a giant leap forward in a lot of ways. There are some new camera cut-ins, and the atmosphere added on top of that makes the game just feel realistic.

Steven Bartlett - The best element of this demo in my opinion is the improved responsive control. The player sliding issues seem to be gone, and jump shots are now more responsive than ever. 2K Sports seems to have designed a game that naturally places gamers into a situation where they can play a simulation style of basketball and look good doing it. It�s not forced. It�s not boring. It's pure hoops. The AI is even out there running set plays, utilizing intelligent help defense, and taking advantage of mismatches.

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# 81 Carrington618 @ 09/17/10 03:36 AM

bollerbuuzz i see it's hard for you to believe people use the demo to decide witch game they will buy but other people on this sit ffeel the seem way it's not just me and i like 2k

# 82 Carrington618 @ 09/17/10 03:37 AM

i cant tell boller buzz cant read by the comments you keep posting

# 83 Carrington618 @ 09/17/10 03:42 AM

bollerbuzz check moneybaizs he one of the people i speak of there are people who play the demo to make a choice and this demo doesnt move them towards 2k

# 84 Carrington618 @ 09/17/10 03:46 AM

2k is better not everybody feel that way and if they had a better demo they would get more customers even though their #1 they cant still have more customers

# 85 Carrington618 @ 09/17/10 03:48 AM

2k3 the first game with the zone done right

# 86 Emaay @ 09/17/10 03:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Dawgthem


	THe point i'm trying to get a across is that no game has animations rendered in real time , since it seems your definition of this is being created right before your eyes. NOt this year not next year because all animations are created in mocap and applied to the game to be applied as predetermined for every action in the game for when you bump someone for when you run into the crowd there all predetermined nothing is rendered in real time where its created right infront of your eyes..it was created in the game for that moment it just may be variety in that animation more than one but its still predetermined real time phsyics is a gimmick. So maybe your grand kids will see real time rendered physics

First I know that alot of things can't be rendered I'm game. Like you cant just expect for the game to emulate someone like Kobe's crossover. But look at games like backbreaker where every tackle is different. So what your saying is that someone took the time to make a thousand possible animations for every forseeable outcome of every tackle. That is the definition of a waste of time. So we have computer programs that can generate car crash physics but these same principles can't be apply to basketball games. Let's be frank, the reason you don't see it employed is because sports game developers would rather the game look nice than play realistically. The backlash from backbreakers animations was stupendous. They were complaining about minute thing like an unrealistic juke. Lol. I'm not saying you can eliminate animations but you can get rid of unnecessary ones and when you do the games will feel way more realistic. Oh and love your rant about my unborn grandchildren lol. Funny how the things you said won't exist until they are born already exist lol. Good try though.

# 87 swac07 @ 09/17/10 03:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Carrington618


	2k is better not everybody feel that way and if they had a better demo they would get more customers even though their #1 they cant still have more customers

huh???????

# 88 yungflo @ 09/17/10 04:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Dawgthem


	YEa i noticed that 2 it looks like the nba jam ball or it was rubbed in baby oil or somethin .DOn't know what those guys were thinking making the ball like that

its also darker. the ball is supposed to be orange like.

# 89 Emaay @ 09/17/10 04:27 AM

It could be done. Just takes two intelligent individuals, not unlike ourselves, to sit down and have a debate over whether it should be tried. I wouldn't use euphoria though. It's seems to be specifically tailored to football. It was just an example to show how it could be done. Tackle physics is not unlike in air collisions and take charge physics in basketball. And the other guy is also right about signature moves. The finess part of basketball is very important but as there aren't really signature collisions in bball that point I'd kinda mute. Whats to say that signature dribbling styles and shooting form couldn't be graphed into specific character models. Kobe and only Kobe plays like Kobe but within the rules of the physics engine. And what's to say having separately running engines to govern players and the ball is bad. That's essentially what real basketball is. But you bring up alot of good point though. Good discussion.

# 90 Carrington618 @ 09/17/10 05:04 AM

swac07 what dont we understand i like 2k over EA. All im saying is that if ur on the fence about get a basket ball game this demo does not help 2k. Alot of people dont read all the hype they wait til they get their hands -on the game. for people like that, the demo is the first chance they get to play the game. now a lot of people that played 2k 10 , nba live 10 or never wanted to play a basket ball vid game until LJ went to MIA are turn off by this demo its for the hard core b/c the only thing it teaches you is how to shoot free throws. a lot of players cant pull off the new dribble moves an other features this frustrates people and turns them off.EAs demo show you how to do all the new features they do a better job at the demo stage (not the game) Bac in 03 i played the demo of 2k 4 it was good(a great looking game) but live was better(over all) with the free style(the control of your player witch is something 2k admits that they fix this year). live just played better for 3 years 2k knew this that why the price of there games is was $20. I dont buy games based on hype or on what they did last year. I wait until i get my hands on them and see witch one of them i like better

# 91 coolcras7 @ 09/17/10 05:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Carrington618


	swac07 what dont we understand i like 2k over EA. All im saying is that if ur on the fence about get a basket ball game this demo does not help 2k. Alot of people dont read all the hype they wait til they get their hands -on the game. for people like that, the demo is the first chance they get to play the game. now a lot of people that played 2k 10 , nba live 10 or never wanted to play a basket ball vid game until LJ went to MIA are turn off by this demo its for the hard core b/c the only thing it teaches you is how to shoot free throws. a lot of players cant pull off the new dribble moves an other features this frustrates people and turns them off.EAs demo show you how to do all the new features they do a better job at the demo stage (not the game) Bac in 03 i played the demo of 2k 4 it was good(a great looking game) but live was better(over all) with the free style(the control of your player witch is something 2k admits that they fix this year). live just played better for 3 years 2k knew this that why the price of there games is was $20. I dont buy games based on hype or on what they did last year. I wait until i get my hands on them and see witch one of them i like better

Well based on the reaction on facebook, Operation Sports, Twitter, 2k forum and other game site you're wrong people love the demo and word of month is spreading, people may complain that it is to short and you can only play with the Laker but the general consensus is that the game has the potential to be SGOTY we live in the information age alot of info is getting to the public like never before every time 2k posts a new article or insight or video you see it every where and there are hundreds of comments and in response to the controls 2k has also released a video for the control maybe you need to look at it it one youtude as well as the 2k forum. The other company has yet to release anything about there game controls yet you give them the benefit of the doubt that there controls will be better come on bro, if you are leaning towards the other game that is your preference but don't try to feed anyone else bull.

# 92 coolcras7 @ 09/17/10 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by drss


	I am new to NBA games, and here is what turns me off about NBA2K11 demo: I don't know what I'm doing in the game; the controls are too hardcore as someone stated already and got burned alive with flame messages. So you know (as well as 2K) there will be newcomers due to Jordan, yet they release a demo like this. Barebones isn't a problem for me, the short match isn't a problem since you can restart (a hassle, but not a problem). But what strikes me as strange is they didn't include a basic tutorial for newcomers. The controls you 2K fans says are so much improved? To me, they feel stiff and unresponsive, compared to regular (non-sports) games I play. Whatever improvements they made means nothing to me, because right now it feels unresponsive. This is obviously due to my not knowing what I'm doing, but that's essentially why a short tutorial should have been included. As it is right now, I have no way of judging whether or not I want to get this game, since the controls frustrate me and I don't know if I'll grow to like it, or if I will get used to the controls enough to feel comfortable with it. All I have to go on is this tutorial-less demo, that is so short that even as I try to experiment with the controls myself to learn it, the frequency of having to restart adds another layer of frustration. I also DO NOT play FIFA and NHL. Never had. I got those demos, and while I such at them and don't know what I'm doing in those either, I never felt frustrated with the controls. This leads me to wonder if my n00bness is the only factor here. My n00bness is apparent in FIFA and NHL, but no frustration with controls. Yet for NBA2K11, it frustrated me. Again, this makes me wonder if learning the controls will change my views (assuming I can learn it), but to find out I'll need to buy or rent the game. I had a chance to play Elite 11, and like NHL, I sucked at it but I was able to play (crappily). Where in 2K11's case, I get frustrated.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7k2EpdcTKVE
http://community.2ksports.com/commun...d=2891396&l=11
this will help and trust me the controls are alot easier this year, but with any game you are new to there is that adjustment phase.

# 93 coolcras7 @ 09/17/10 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Buck_Foston_


	I want to see what Elite has to offer before I make my decision. Their demo is supposed to be a full demo with tutorial. One of these next two Tuesdays.

And where exactly did you hear this because last I read there was no info what so ever about the demo.

# 94 vexx007 @ 09/17/10 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Moneybalzs


	I'm one of those people you speak of Carrington. I do not like the 2k brand of basketball at all. each year i play it hoping they will change the game play some how but it just never seems to happen. the presentation changes ALOT from year to year but the game play is still very slow and non responsive. when i read reviews on here from people saying they love how real it plays i go back and play the demo again and i just dont see it. while i can acknowledge most people prefer the 2k games Ive. always through the years had more fun playing EA's games not because they are super realistic, but because i just plain have more fun on those games.

i agree totally. i hope they give us an indept ingame tutorial and not some nonsense you gotta download.

# 95 vexx007 @ 09/17/10 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by SDJHood93


	I think I need more practice with the demo because I always try to cross over Ray Allen and it never works! The only thing I can successfully do is a spin around the defender.

i hope they fix it .

# 96 Nephilim @ 09/17/10 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by vexx007


	i hope they fix it .

Fix what? Incompetence of some?

I'm soooo afraid devs will listen to stupid complaints and dumb down the game. OS greatest please prevent that.

# 97 coolcras7 @ 09/17/10 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Nephilim


	Fix what? Incompetence of some? I'm soooo afraid devs will listen to stupid complaints and dumb down the game. OS greatest please prevent that.

lol yeah 2k better fix their controls because I can't cross over Ray Allen, so sad.

# 98 Carrington618 @ 09/17/10 09:56 AM

coolcras7 i have ben playing the demo alot trying to get the moves down but alot of people dont read gaming sites or follow 2k on facebook or twitter they WAIT for the demo so you telling me about what the site said means nothing to someone who doesnt rely on hype from the sites b/c they can tell you anything and some people want to see for their self. and for those (few) people the demo is an turn off. not for me a you ( i dont like the demo but its not an turn off for me)
why are people having a hard time understanding that this demo does not help someone new who does rely on hype and want to play the game. if you read up on 2k new features then u wouldnt know how to throw an alley you wouldnt know how to do the new dribble move even if you played last year. not everybodty are geeks like us who follow sites like this or facebook they want to play first an this demo is not a good first impression

# 99 coolcras7 @ 09/17/10 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Carrington618


	coolcras7 i have ben playing the demo alot trying to get the moves down but alot of people dont read gaming sites or follow 2k on facebook or twitter they WAIT for the demo so you telling me about what the site said means nothing to someone who doesnt rely on hype from the sites b/c they can tell you anything and some people want to see for their self. and for those (few) people the demo is an turn off. not for me a you ( i dont like the demo but its not an turn off for me) why are people having a hard time understanding that this demo does not help someone new who does rely on hype and want to play the game. if you read up on 2k new features then u wouldnt know how to throw an alley you wouldnt know how to do the new dribble move even if you played last year. not everybodty are geeks like us who follow sites like this or facebook they want to play first an this demo is not a good first impression

It's not even about hype they have provided too much info to be just a game based on hype, you have credible people say that the game is good you have articles, and videos showing the improvements of the game, if the demo did nothing for you then this game may not be for you there is a slight learning curve as with any game you are not use to playing, so it your choice try to figure out the controls I gave you all the links or don't buy the game there have been a few people like yourself who did not like the game at first but eventually the got the hang of it so it just up to you, 2k has put out all the info that one would need to play their game, it would be nice if is was a part of the demo but it is available if you just looked for it and even if you did not it easy to get the hang of the controls.

# 100 Carrington618 @ 09/17/10 10:51 AM

cool that what im trying to do i just saying not everybody is like us

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