Dude its not even like that,...i see 2k as the better basketball simulation Live some people don't even call it simulation they call it arcade , and fun, I'm a bball fanatic when i play a game i want to get that real hardcore bball simulation not something that looks and feels like i'm playing nba street. When i play the game i want to say okay thats wassup running hte play gettting the jumper off Oh snap i can't believe i did that they realy looked like kobe oh that really looked like paul pierce. Oh i feel like paul pierce now its seven secs on the clock not some ps2 models and so called real time physics that look like simple animations from 2k3. BUt thats me i'm just saying dude came in here talking about the games animations like there aren't enough the controls are down pack and most people love them you just need to get a hang of them but he acts as if they haven't worked on controls. If they haven't worked on them why has teh iso controls changed every two games or so