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Four Keys to Success for MLB '11: The Show

08:14 PM - September 2, 2010 by RaychelSnr

Baseball's pennant push is in full swing, and several teams are feverishly trying to claw their way to a division title. For those of us whose teams have already been eliminated from postseason consideration (my beloved Tigers included), the only baseball we really have to look forward to right now is next season's entry of Sony's stellar MLB: The Show franchise. While this year's title was an excellent addition to the series, there are definitely some nagging issues holding the game back from the elusive "GOAT" status.

With plenty of time still left in this year's development cycle, I figured I would put together a couple critical aspects of the game that should be altered for the upcoming season.

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# 61 Knight165 @ 09/10/10 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Moneybalzs


	I know im just dreaming here but i would LOVE for them to some how acquire the rights to use the FOX logos and overlays and get joe buck and tim mccarver in the game. if this could happen i'd never play another game again.

If McCarver is ever in...I'm OUT.
Ooofff....enough to give me the chills!

M.K.
Knight165

# 62 rsox @ 09/10/10 04:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Moneybalzs


	I know im just dreaming here but i would LOVE for them to some how acquire the rights to use the FOX logos and overlays and get joe buck and tim mccarver in the game. if this could happen i'd never play another game again.

Worst idea {b]EVER!![/b]

I would keep Vasgersian and dump Campbell and Hudler or at the very least drop Hudler. Maybe replace him with Harold Reynolds.

# 63 Manny_Shevitz @ 09/10/10 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by MLB01


	So basically, you want Pro Baseball Spirits hitting as an option in The Show. I do too.

Same here. As far as I'm concerned, Pro Yakyu Spirits has the best batting system of any baseball video game, ever. In fact, in terms of gameplay, I think PYS is better than The Show in most aspects.

# 64 moemoe24 @ 09/10/10 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by swaldo


	Thanks for clarifying, I didn't realize RTTS BP had influence on. It definately doesn't work in normal BP, there's no vibration confirmation and L/R influence on bunts doesn't work. I still think L/R influence doesn't work on regular swings. If you tell a player to lift the ball in the air even if the pitch is low this computes. It wouldn't be easy but you can do it. However, if you tell a player to pull the ball even if your swing is late this doesn't compute. You say results are 100% logical but the only way this could work is if results are illogical. If your swing is level then I can see where the CPU might give you the benefit of the doubt and send the ball to the left or right even though it should go straight. In any case hopefully the devs can clear things up.

This is exactly the reason swing influence should never be in a baseball sim. Like you said, You shouldn't be able to influence the ball one way or the other, timing of your swing should be the only influence you have. How can you swing early and still hit the ball to RF? That's not realistic. Nor is it realistic to make the ball be a grounder or fly ball. The balls path should only be determined by the pci.

# 65 swaldo @ 09/10/10 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by moemoe24


	This is exactly the reason swing influence should never be in a baseball sim. Like you said, You shouldn't be able to influence the ball one way or the other, timing of your swing should be the only influence you have. How can you swing early and still hit the ball to RF? That's not realistic. Nor is it realistic to make the ball be a grounder or fly ball. The balls path should only be determined by the pci.

I agree, but at least they penalize you for using it so it's a risk/reward decision you have to make. I wonder though how many people have been penalized for using the L/R influence even though it (possibly) has no effect on normal swings?

# 66 Heroesandvillains @ 09/10/10 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Knight165


	If McCarver is ever in...I'm OUT. Ooofff....enough to give me the chills! M.K. Knight165

Knight, this is TRUELY one of you're finest moments. I seriously can't stop laughing!

Man, I have to stop looking at it...or this laughing fit is NEVER gonna end. And as a baseball fan, the message couldn't be more true.

# 67 Knight165 @ 09/10/10 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by heroesandvillians


	Knight, this is TRUELY one of you're finest moments. I seriously can't stop laughing! Man, I have to stop looking at it...or this laughing fit is NEVER gonna end. And as a baseball fan, the message couldn't be more true.

Haha....yeah...I have to break out the vomiting emoticon every once in a while.
Whenever I am creating a Classic St. Louis team...I have to ask my wife to come into the office and edit Mr. McCarver. I can't bring myself to do it.

M.K.
Knight165

# 68 Heroesandvillains @ 09/11/10 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Knight165


	Haha....yeah...I have to break out the vomiting emoticon every once in a while. Whenever I am creating a Classic St. Louis team...I have to ask my wife to come into the office and edit Mr. McCarver. I can't bring myself to do it. M.K. Knight165

I can't blame you. Stomache aches are the worst.

# 69 rsox @ 09/12/10 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Todem


	The only thing missing presentation wise is a Baseball Tonight or MLB Channel weekly show with highlights from around the league, trade rumors, call-ups, lineup shake ups etc. Gameplay wise the game is almost perfect. And I gotta say I love just pitching and batting and letting the AI field and run. It's a joy to play the game and rely on the player ratings. I still position guys in certain situations but after seeing the ball hit I get a thrill watching my team backing me up. Now if they revamped the controls for baserunning (ala MVP 2005) I would run/steal for myself.

If they do that then i want a digital Hazel Mae!

# 70 Mr. Franchise @ 09/12/10 04:13 PM

No offense, but this is a pretty bad list of improvements. If these are the only things they input, I'm probably not getting '11.

# 71 countryboy @ 09/12/10 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by decga


	I most totally agree with having the user on manual sliding control the slide by using the stick.

its already in the game. However, the timing window for when you get to choose the type of slide and to which side, is fairly small.

# 72 monk31 @ 09/13/10 02:54 AM

Some good comments here. But I disagree with the comments about the R-stick influencing the swing. That is all about baseball strategy. Sometimes you are trying to hit a ball on the ground to the right side or a fly ball, etc. This is decided before you step into the box. Remember, The Show is for sim-like play, stick to "The Bigs" if you're not into that kind of thing.

# 73 bobeureally27 @ 09/13/10 04:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Moneybalzs


	I know im just dreaming here but i would LOVE for them to some how acquire the rights to use the FOX logos and overlays and get joe buck and tim mccarver in the game. if this could happen i'd never play another game again.

Er...no. I'd most definitely mute the TV if this happened. Heck, I mute the TV on FOX Saturday baseball when the Red Sox play the Yankees (somehow, those losers get that assignment every single time (Buck and McCarver)). I mute it then, and I'll mute the video game. I'm not sure I'd go as far as not buying The Show, because let's face it, it's the best baseball sim. But Buck and McCarver have NO business with a video game.

# 74 dtwbball22 @ 09/13/10 03:41 PM

I would like to see a simple thing - when the game starts, show the home team running out on to the field and have the ability to choose the music that is played while this happens. Have the crowd fired up.
Another thing would be showing the reliever coming in all teh way from the bullpen and showing clip scenes of him warming up with stats for the year.

# 75 emath @ 09/14/10 02:47 PM

I prefer hitting to be more rating based than user timing based. If it was all about timing, hitting may wind up being to easy after a while. Plus, if it is rating based, you are more likely to get realistic numbers at the end of the year.

In other words, I kinda like the hitting system in place now.

# 76 Townie33 @ 09/15/10 09:35 PM

l personally would love to see PITCH RECOGNITION incorporated like in the old MLB series. The different color codes for different pitch types really added to the reality of the game. Being able to pick up the pitch on the way to the plate would add a ton of realism to this already amazing title.

# 77 CuseGirl @ 09/15/10 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Dannyray64


	I like the playoff mode idea. What the game really needs is a create a stadium and create a team mode.

Anytime I see "create-a-something" my eyes and ears perk up. Stadium? Big yes. Team? Hmm.....that'll be tough, cuz you would need to create minor league teams as well....

# 78 CuseGirl @ 09/15/10 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by heroesandvillians


	I've read discussion on this quite a bit, from SEVERAL experienced users, but I just don't get it. Could the hitting system use some tweaking? Yes, but not an overhaul. Big leaguers hit well timed pitches into gloves all of the time. I emphatically disagree that just because the PCI is dead on the ball, and timing says "superb", that a basehit should be all but guarenteed.

Notice you said experienced users or as I would call them "lifers". The majority of people who would buy this game aren't likely to come on this board looking for tips. And if you're new to the game, the learning curve is very steep, in my opinion. It took me 2 and a half weeks to get the ball out of the infield, let alone hit for power. It can be frustrating, especially if the most heralded mode (RTTS) is largely dependent on succeeding early.

Some casual fans take those timing notes literally, not figuratively. They would prefer to see weak groundballs to 2nd base marked "just missed" or "late" or whatever other timing moniker.

# 79 beau21 @ 09/16/10 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by CuseGirl


	Anytime I see "create-a-something" my eyes and ears perk up. Stadium? Big yes. Team? Hmm.....that'll be tough, cuz you would need to create minor league teams as well....

Mine as well. I'm still waiting for the day when we are given the ability to create a team (and uniform) from scratch. NCAA Football has taken this step and their TeamBuilder is fairly well done. I would love the ability to create an infinite number of teams/uniforms for a baseball game.. an online creation option like NCAA would be best I believe for custom logo purposes. Not that this would ever be "easy" to incorporate but if we do, indeed, see the new player models come to light this year.. maybe it would be an "easier" time since they're already working with the art team? Just a thought.

I would absolutely love to be able to make uniforms from scratch and put them into custom leagues (<-- see what I did there?) and set up colleges, high schools, throwbacks, anything you can imagine.

Maybe someday.

# 80 Heroesandvillains @ 09/16/10 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by CuseGirl


	Notice you said experienced users or as I would call them "lifers". The majority of people who would buy this game aren't likely to come on this board looking for tips. And if you're new to the game, the learning curve is very steep, in my opinion. It took me 2 and a half weeks to get the ball out of the infield, let alone hit for power. It can be frustrating, especially if the most heralded mode (RTTS) is largely dependent on succeeding early. Some casual fans take those timing notes literally, not figuratively. They would prefer to see weak groundballs to 2nd base marked "just missed" or "late" or whatever other timing moniker.

If "solid" contact, more often the not, resulted in base hits, simply mastering the timing of how to hit would pillage the game of all statistical realism for hardcore players. These hardcore players are certainly the demographic MOST looking for realism. We can't have it both ways. A purely timing based hitting system, and statistically solid long term play.

I don't know, maybe it can be done. All I know for sure is that to baseball fans, numbers matter.

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