07:23 AM - May 21, 2010 by wickedbadman
The Backbreaker demo is now available on the Marketplace. Post your impressions here.
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Backbreaker News Post
07:23 AM - May 21, 2010 by wickedbadmanThe Backbreaker demo is now available on the Marketplace. Post your impressions here.
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Well guys I literally can't play this game due to the horrendous blur after every tackle. I played it yesterday only to walk away with a killer headache that took nearly a full day to get over. I've never played a game that constantly blurred like BackBreaker is doing. I have something called keratoconus, which is the deterioration of the cornea.
The cornea is the hard/rigid lense in your eye that goes over the retina. Mine are so thin that they bubble up easily with excessive eye strain. Any time your eyes are focusing, your eye muscles are being used. When you squint, you are using your eye muscles to cause the cornea to bend so you can see further.
My cornea is so thin, especially on the right eye which is far worse than the left, that it will wobble back and forth when it can't focus on something. Because it is so thin, it actually bubbles up like the following image (though definitely not 'as bad' as the example below):
Needless to say that playing BackBreaker caused my eyes to go all twitchy on me, and the cornea to wobble a lot, causing the muscles to work like crazy trying to get things in focus and causing the headache.
I hope they provide some type of option to turn that blurring off. I've messaged their community manager on twitter, but no response from him. I'd buy the game, but won't now, as there's just no way I can play it unless perhaps I run out of bounds on every play?
The cornea is the hard/rigid lense in your eye that goes over the retina. Mine are so thin that they bubble up easily with excessive eye strain. Any time your eyes are focusing, your eye muscles are being used. When you squint, you are using your eye muscles to cause the cornea to bend so you can see further.
My cornea is so thin, especially on the right eye which is far worse than the left, that it will wobble back and forth when it can't focus on something. Because it is so thin, it actually bubbles up like the following image (though definitely not 'as bad' as the example below):
Needless to say that playing BackBreaker caused my eyes to go all twitchy on me, and the cornea to wobble a lot, causing the muscles to work like crazy trying to get things in focus and causing the headache.
I hope they provide some type of option to turn that blurring off. I've messaged their community manager on twitter, but no response from him. I'd buy the game, but won't now, as there's just no way I can play it unless perhaps I run out of bounds on every play?
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Has zero to do with difficulty. I have no problems with difficulty. Not sure why you came to that conclusion. I have already explained why I believe it to not be more realistic at least a dozen times.
I don't play racing games, so I don't care what they do.
Let's not avoid the obvious either, more realism isn't always better than less realism. Real life football players spend hundreds of hours practicing and watching film for every hour they spend actually playing in a game, and even then all but a very few have issues making reads and going through their progressions. A true sim experience would be incredibly frustrating for almost everyone, which is why all games are a stylized version of real life to some extent or another. So whether or not a close to the field camera is sim or not isn't really the issue, it's whether the design decision makes for a more entertaining football game, for most people anyways. In any event, if you demand so much realism from your game that only a close to the action camera will do, I would think that the game falls so short of the mark in other areas of football simulation that it's a moot point anyways. If that's not the case and you still can enjoy a football game that isn't a perfect simulation, then you should be able to understand how people can think that the game would be better with a different camera angle.
WOW! tackle alley is loaded with win.... my god the way those guys move and the incredible animations. physics and moves/tackles.... feels so friggin organic.
This game does so many things well even if it's not perfect
This game does so many things well even if it's not perfect
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Hey guys I'm a ps3 owner so I'm still waiting.Arrrrrrrg How has backbreaker affected going back playing the older/different version football games. I know last year Madden's gameplay completely ruined my experience for Ncaa because of the better gameplay. From you guys' experience, will backbreaker's gameplay ruin trying to switch back to another football game?
The camera makes everything seem so hectic. The physics are fantastic but the camera makes the game unplayable for me
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The camera is definitely limiting and not for everyone (preference).
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catcatch22 @ 05/24/10 03:46 AM
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# 751
TracerBullet @ 05/24/10 03:51 AM
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I just played a bunch of matches of Spartans vs. Talons (ME) and there have only been a couple interceptions and a few sacks after 5 games. Seems like I'm playing a totally different game than before. Some other people should try out this matchup and see if they get the same results. All these have been really competitive splitting wins. Which is weird, because I usually dominate.
Well , after playing the demo all weekend my thoughts have changed a bit. I still like the game, and I applaud NM for trying something different. That said I don't think I'll be buying Backbreaker. I just can't get used to the camera angle. Yeah I know it's for realism but it just doesn't work for me. I don't always want to throw to the highlighted WR and there is not enough time to look at the others. In my case you can't teach an old dog new tricks. I've been playing video game football since the Sega Master system and I'm not adjusting well to change. Hopefully it won't take another 3 years for BB 2 , and hopefully BB 2 will have a traditional camera angle. I think I'm going to pass on football games this year. I just picked up NHL2k10 for the 360 and today I'm going to spend my BB money on The Show 10 for the PS3, those games will feed my sports gaming appetite for the year.
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# 756
Illustrator76 @ 05/24/10 09:07 AM
OK, I have a few questions for all of the camera defenders (especially for the ones who keep calling it "sim"), and I would really like someone to answer the questions in my post and not just spew out another canned "God Cam" answer.
1.) In real life, do the quarterbacks receivers glow red when he looks at them? Can he see his plays diagrammed on the field when he pushes the Right Bumper? Can the quarterback put touch on the ball AFTER it's been released?
2.) Do you consider NBA 2K10 a "sim" basketball game? If so, then does it NOT become a "sim" basketball game if I play on the side camera instead of the camera that goes up and down? Am I NOT a "sim" gamer for playing on the side camera instead of the one that goes up and down?
3.) What in the world is so horribly wrong about people requesting OPTIONS as far as the camera goes? I simply can't see how you can reasonably argue someone wanting the OPTION to change their camera. If these are the cameras we get by default, then so be it, but I should have the OPTION to change it if I want to. Plain. And. Simple.
I simply don't see how you can truthfully answer any one of my questions and still try to make your Backbreaker "sim cam"/whatever defenses valid. It is a video game, not everything is going to be exactly as in real life. If you want to be right down on the field just like you are actually playing, then go train and put on some pads and try out for your local team. Some things are always going to be a little unrealistic when you are playing a video game (for the sake of fun and playability), I don't understand why some continue to ignore that, actually I do, but I'll keep quiet because I don't wanna get banned.
1.) In real life, do the quarterbacks receivers glow red when he looks at them? Can he see his plays diagrammed on the field when he pushes the Right Bumper? Can the quarterback put touch on the ball AFTER it's been released?
2.) Do you consider NBA 2K10 a "sim" basketball game? If so, then does it NOT become a "sim" basketball game if I play on the side camera instead of the camera that goes up and down? Am I NOT a "sim" gamer for playing on the side camera instead of the one that goes up and down?
3.) What in the world is so horribly wrong about people requesting OPTIONS as far as the camera goes? I simply can't see how you can reasonably argue someone wanting the OPTION to change their camera. If these are the cameras we get by default, then so be it, but I should have the OPTION to change it if I want to. Plain. And. Simple.
I simply don't see how you can truthfully answer any one of my questions and still try to make your Backbreaker "sim cam"/whatever defenses valid. It is a video game, not everything is going to be exactly as in real life. If you want to be right down on the field just like you are actually playing, then go train and put on some pads and try out for your local team. Some things are always going to be a little unrealistic when you are playing a video game (for the sake of fun and playability), I don't understand why some continue to ignore that, actually I do, but I'll keep quiet because I don't wanna get banned.
# 757
RaiderKtulu @ 05/24/10 10:11 AM
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The real reason behind this whole issue is that people want Backbreaker to be "Madden with Physics". Backbreaker is trying to be it's own game. They specifically designed this game around using this camera angle. Those of us that like it feel that it's more realistic.
We could argue about that all day and never get anywhere.
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Complaining about not having the option of another camera angle is like complaining that you can't play God of War from a first person view. It's like complaining that Oblivion uses a different combat system than Final Fantasy 7. They're both RPGs, shouldn't they play the same? Well... no.
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Illustrator76 @ 05/24/10 10:50 AM
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Also, I never once made a comparison to EA's football game and Backbreaker.
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The only thing right is that it's an impression thread, which, people can express their likes and dislikes about the camera or anything else about the game.
And sim or not sim is a part of an impression of the game.
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RaiderKtulu @ 05/24/10 11:12 AM
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