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MLB '10: The Show - Franchise Issues Update

07:41 PM - March 2, 2010 by Kolbe

Here is our list of the current known issues that we're looking into for immediate attention:

Attendance:
Attendance is not correctly getting reported. In talking with Jeff, he has a fix in mind that is fairly safe but would end up in the actual attendance not mirroring the paid attendance you get in franchise. It would fix the issue where you have 50k+ people attending Spring Training games. This will also fix issues with playoff games and games played in any stadium that isn't your own.
* UPDATE - This was caused by the stadium select screen being added to franchise, causing the attendance to be reset using the non-franchise logic. The stadium select was previously never used for playoff games, so it didn't handle that situation. This is fixed and it also fixes the issue with spring training games showing the attendance as if they were in their home stadium.

Trade Waivers:
Users can claim anyone off of trade waivers - CPU teams will never pull them back.
* UPDATE - fixed this one - a simple fix that will prevent user teams from simply claiming everyone that was passed through trade waivers.

No Contract:
Players can get into a state where they have no contract.
* UPDATE - As soon as a player was placed on release waivers, his contract was cleared. Then if he was claimed, he didn't have a contract. It was also clearing his 40-man roster status, which is what was causing him to go to AAA instead of the MLB team. Have a fix for this.

Player Potential:
Looks like a fairly bad miscommunication ended up with us having some seriously out of whack potentials. This will be corrected with the next roster download (Monday)
* UPDATE - Lorne is taking care of this - will be fixed with a roster update.

Multi Closer issue:
If a CPU team has 2 closers (one acquired in a trade) - they will always send one down to AAA.
* UPDATE - It would just look at the closers and see that they had more than they needed so they'd send one down, but they wouldn't look to see if they could send down a reliever instead and keep the 2nd closer in the bullpen. Have a fix for this.

Multi Trade players:
Not even sure what the details are on this one, but it looks like sometimes a player is traded and then re-traded or waived. Currently investigating.
* UPDATE - I have a fix for the trades. I'll not allow a player to be placed on the trading block by the CPU if he has been acquired by a trade recently.

Manual Trade issue:
I've seen a few reports of users having trades set to Manual and still having trades done by the CPU. Again, no idea how this is happening and we're looking for more information.
* UPDATE - Not sure what's happening here, we can not get this one to reproduce. Whoever is getting this, please make sure that you don't have your profile option set to something different than your global setting. If you need to talk to me via PM or IM for further info, please just say the word!
* UPDATE 2 Thanks to tabarnes19 and a couple hours of debugging we have found the issue and have a fix in the works.

If you respond, please please PLEASE do not be noise. We need clear help or silence - we want these things cleared up as much as you do!

-K

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# 341 texbuk84 @ 03/05/10 03:21 PM

I keep trying the work around that I stated before and I'm on my 2nd season simming and I didn't notice ANY stupid trades at all and claiming of waiver players. I don't see what the problem seems to be. HERE WE GO AGAIN!

1. FRANCHISE MODE AT MAIN SCREEN
2. PICK DEFAULT ROSTERS( NOT CURRENT OR SAVED)
3.SELECT YOUR TEAM(ONLY 1 TEAM AND AT THE BOTTOM MAKE SURE YOUR USER PROFILE IS THE ACTIVE ONE NOT NO PROFILE!
4.WHEN ON GLOBAL SETTINGS CLICK COMPUTER CONTROL ON( YOULL GET A MESSAGE) THEN TURN IT OFF!!
5. YOUR DONE EVERYTHING SHOULD WORK NOW( ITS WORKING FOR ME)

# 342 Knight165 @ 03/05/10 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Grydnt Vektr211


	I keep trying the work around that I stated before and I'm on my 2nd season simming and I didn't notice ANY stupid trades at all and claiming of waiver players. I don't see what the problem seems to be. HERE WE GO AGAIN! 1. FRANCHISE MODE AT MAIN SCREEN 2. PICK DEFAULT ROSTERS( NOT CURRENT OR SAVED) 3.SELECT YOUR TEAM(ONLY 1 TEAM AND AT THE BOTTOM MAKE SURE YOUR USER PROFILE IS THE ACTIVE ONE NOT NO PROFILE! 4.WHEN ON GLOBAL SETTINGS CLICK COMPUTER CONTROL ON( YOULL GET A MESSAGE) THEN TURN IT OFF!! 5. YOUR DONE EVERYTHING SHOULD WORK NOW( ITS WORKING FOR ME)

I'm confused what you mean by turning computer control on...then off..for what options?

M.K.
Knight165

# 343 Spear @ 03/05/10 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Grydnt Vektr211


	I keep trying the work around that I stated before and I'm on my 2nd season simming and I didn't notice ANY stupid trades at all and claiming of waiver players. I don't see what the problem seems to be. HERE WE GO AGAIN! 1. FRANCHISE MODE AT MAIN SCREEN 2. PICK DEFAULT ROSTERS( NOT CURRENT OR SAVED) 3.SELECT YOUR TEAM(ONLY 1 TEAM AND AT THE BOTTOM MAKE SURE YOUR USER PROFILE IS THE ACTIVE ONE NOT NO PROFILE! 4.WHEN ON GLOBAL SETTINGS CLICK COMPUTER CONTROL ON( YOULL GET A MESSAGE) THEN TURN IT OFF!! 5. YOUR DONE EVERYTHING SHOULD WORK NOW( ITS WORKING FOR ME)

I simmed till mid August with a saved roster...

Things appear to be working to an extent. I was able to claim some players off Waivers after the trade deadline though (Heath Bell and Billy Wagner).

I also could not make a single trade, nor did I see ANY trades. Not even scrubs were being traded....

Hmmm..........

# 344 Spear @ 03/05/10 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Knight165


	I'm confused what you mean by turning computer control on...then off..for what options? M.K. Knight165

When you flick it on, it gives you a message warning you what you're doing. Then you just flick it back to off.

# 345 ty5oke @ 03/05/10 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Knight165


	I'm confused what you mean by turning computer control on...then off..for what options? M.K. Knight165

CPU Roster Control?

# 346 texbuk84 @ 03/05/10 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by ty5oke


	CPU Roster Control?

yeah!

# 347 sooner111 @ 03/05/10 03:53 PM

A cosmetic comment here. When I played with the Rangers on the road with their Blue Uni's, they still wore the awful red and blue batting helmets. Any way of patching this? Also they wore the same helmets when playing with them online. Appreciate it!!

# 348 texbuk84 @ 03/05/10 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by KingSeyton


	so with your method are trades still happening just the CPU isn't tradng your playerS?

yeah

# 349 vegaas @ 03/05/10 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Grydnt Vektr211


	yeah

Awesome find! If this works and we get the corrected potentials with the roster update on Monday then I can start my franchise. Fantastic!

# 350 JayD @ 03/05/10 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by baseball66


	How about lineups using this do they stay correct or get messed up?

I think the lineups are determined by how players do in spring training. I've started a few braves franchise and I've seen several different lineups coming out of spring training.

# 351 JayD @ 03/05/10 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by KolbeSCEA


	The only possible "downside" if you want to look at it that way, is the attendance reported in game will not be the same as the attendance that Franchise mode thinks you should have - we need to do this for balance reasons. CPU will pull them back - just like in real life, if you make a play for someone passing through waivers the placing team pulls them back. For the record, I dont usually make it a habit of defending our fixes, but I could see how these may be a little confusing. -K

Can someone please explain the Attendance part of this a bit better? Is he saying that the attendance you see at the beginning of the game won't match the paid attendance you see at the end of the game in franchise? Is this fix going to effect what you see in the stadium?

# 352 JayD @ 03/05/10 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by baseball66


	ok thanks. I see the lineups for all teams stay correct until the season starts then they are all readjusted, i guess all we can do is correct them all.

I agree that the logic should be a bit better but I like seeing cpu teams adjusting their lineups depending on how a player does in spring training. It's a start in the right direction.

# 353 DarthRambo @ 03/05/10 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by vegaas


	Awesome find! If this works and we get the corrected potentials with the roster update on Monday then I can start my franchise. Fantastic!

What's the "fix" and what is it fixing??

# 354 mets718 @ 03/05/10 05:51 PM

Hey, IDK if this has been included but in the Franchise... it wont let me advance to the next day.... has anyone found a solution to this?

# 355 texbuk84 @ 03/05/10 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by rondoman


	So for this to work you have to use default rosters?

Yeah, It works with the DEFAULT ROSTERS.

# 356 myghty @ 03/05/10 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by sidekickjosh


	fairly big issue.. and im hoping this is due to the broken potential ratings that there will be a fix for.. but the giants accept a trade straight up, gary sheffield for tim lincecum, every time ... like i said im guessing thats cause sheff is labeled potential a, and lincecum a b?

Seems like a fair trade to me. HAHA

# 357 vegaas @ 03/05/10 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Grydnt Vektr211


	Yeah, It works with the DEFAULT ROSTERS.

So then it wont work with the roster update on Monday? Dang that is disappointing.

# 358 DarthRambo @ 03/05/10 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Grydnt Vektr211


	I keep trying the work around that I stated before and I'm on my 2nd season simming and I didn't notice ANY stupid trades at all and claiming of waiver players. I don't see what the problem seems to be. HERE WE GO AGAIN! 1. FRANCHISE MODE AT MAIN SCREEN 2. PICK DEFAULT ROSTERS( NOT CURRENT OR SAVED) 3.SELECT YOUR TEAM(ONLY 1 TEAM AND AT THE BOTTOM MAKE SURE YOUR USER PROFILE IS THE ACTIVE ONE NOT NO PROFILE! 4.WHEN ON GLOBAL SETTINGS CLICK COMPUTER CONTROL ON( YOULL GET A MESSAGE) THEN TURN IT OFF!! 5. YOUR DONE EVERYTHING SHOULD WORK NOW( ITS WORKING FOR ME)

Did exactly that in order, and it def fixes the problem of trading! Actually, it may work too well as there were NO trades at all done by the cpu. HOWEVER, after the trade deadline and ton of players were put on Trade Waivers inclding Pujols, Rafael Soriano, Heath Bell, Jose Reyes, and Lance Berkman, just to name a few of many great players.

It appears however that if YOU don't claim them yourself, they all will clear waivers and still be on their perspective teams. I had injuries off as well and noticed the cpu won't move Minors up or down throughout season UNTIL.... September 7th, then a bunch of teams "Recalled Pos. Jhn Doe from AA whatever" So they do at least do the september call-ups which is great to see.

I think I can definately start a franchise up with this fix or workaround, thanks alot man!!!

# 359 countryboy @ 03/05/10 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by cardsleadtheway


	Just out of curiosity, are all these big name players in the final year of their contract? I am just wondering if that is why the CPU is placing them on trade waivers.

I posted this in a different thread in where they were discussing the effects of the player potential fix, but it answers your question as well..

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a majority, if not damn near all, the players being put on trade waivers or even traded for prospects are players that are in the last year of their contract and:

* are in a big money contract

* are old

I don't believe the player potential fix will eliminate this from happening. Teams are looking to dump big salary players for cheaper, high ceiling, prospects. Not sure there is anything one could do to fix this outside of controlling every team.

# 360 DarthRambo @ 03/05/10 07:17 PM

It also works on saved rosters as well! I downloaded a "Topp 100 prospects" roster from the vault, and used that. It works perfect! CPU won't make any trades but it's better than them making them for you, as well as them claiming players off trade waivers. You just have to resist the temptation in not claiming a few players for yourself lol...

Noticed this time my team was 13.5 back of Division lead and did NOT call up players from Minors this time. Dunno if this was the reason, but regardless they didnt call anyone up. September 7th is when the playoffs start for the minor leagues, so that's why it happens on that date. I'm excited to start a chise now!

I believe the trick is to flip "CPU Control Roster" ON at global settings at the start, and then flip it back off. It's some sort of glitch in there, like the game still thinks ur in control when ur not. I am going to try it with injuries on this time and see if it works.

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