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MLB '10: The Show - Franchise Issues Update

08:41 PM - March 2, 2010 by Kolbe

Here is our list of the current known issues that we're looking into for immediate attention:

Attendance:
Attendance is not correctly getting reported. In talking with Jeff, he has a fix in mind that is fairly safe but would end up in the actual attendance not mirroring the paid attendance you get in franchise. It would fix the issue where you have 50k+ people attending Spring Training games. This will also fix issues with playoff games and games played in any stadium that isn't your own.
* UPDATE - This was caused by the stadium select screen being added to franchise, causing the attendance to be reset using the non-franchise logic. The stadium select was previously never used for playoff games, so it didn't handle that situation. This is fixed and it also fixes the issue with spring training games showing the attendance as if they were in their home stadium.

Trade Waivers:
Users can claim anyone off of trade waivers - CPU teams will never pull them back.
* UPDATE - fixed this one - a simple fix that will prevent user teams from simply claiming everyone that was passed through trade waivers.

No Contract:
Players can get into a state where they have no contract.
* UPDATE - As soon as a player was placed on release waivers, his contract was cleared. Then if he was claimed, he didn't have a contract. It was also clearing his 40-man roster status, which is what was causing him to go to AAA instead of the MLB team. Have a fix for this.

Player Potential:
Looks like a fairly bad miscommunication ended up with us having some seriously out of whack potentials. This will be corrected with the next roster download (Monday)
* UPDATE - Lorne is taking care of this - will be fixed with a roster update.

Multi Closer issue:
If a CPU team has 2 closers (one acquired in a trade) - they will always send one down to AAA.
* UPDATE - It would just look at the closers and see that they had more than they needed so they'd send one down, but they wouldn't look to see if they could send down a reliever instead and keep the 2nd closer in the bullpen. Have a fix for this.

Multi Trade players:
Not even sure what the details are on this one, but it looks like sometimes a player is traded and then re-traded or waived. Currently investigating.
* UPDATE - I have a fix for the trades. I'll not allow a player to be placed on the trading block by the CPU if he has been acquired by a trade recently.

Manual Trade issue:
I've seen a few reports of users having trades set to Manual and still having trades done by the CPU. Again, no idea how this is happening and we're looking for more information.
* UPDATE - Not sure what's happening here, we can not get this one to reproduce. Whoever is getting this, please make sure that you don't have your profile option set to something different than your global setting. If you need to talk to me via PM or IM for further info, please just say the word!
* UPDATE 2 Thanks to tabarnes19 and a couple hours of debugging we have found the issue and have a fix in the works.

If you respond, please please PLEASE do not be noise. We need clear help or silence - we want these things cleared up as much as you do!

-K

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# 241 rjyanks12 @ 03/04/10 07:05 PM

Along the same lines of beginning my franchise, when they come out with the potential fix on monday will I have to restart my franchise? I dont want to get into it now and make some trades if it will all be reset come monday with the fix.

Thanks

# 242 Microsoft_Works @ 03/04/10 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by MrArlingtonBeach


	I'm interested as well...has anyone else tried a Franchise with just the default rosters and not had any issues?

Just simmed a season with the default rosters. My team wound up David Price, Adam Lind and Wade Davis somehow with trades on manual. So I guess that idea doesn't work.

Tommy Hanson did go 18-6 for me though, and I got really excited for the upcoming real season.

# 243 Usarocker @ 03/04/10 07:25 PM

Couple of things on the Trade.

1. I just traded Barry Zito for Felix Hernandez, I am the giants. So im guessing that is part of the the Trade Logic Issue. I have been reading the forums to see if this is getting patched, and so it seems Koble said IF for the patch. im confused.

2. Also with the trade logic. I use instant trade, and i have done trades where the CPU meter is 100% full but when i submit the trade they say that they are not interested in this type of trade right now.. blah blah blah.. Is this part of the trade logic glitch as well, or is it suppose to be like that. I am just confused because it says 100% interested but then the trade gets rejected.

Last, the latest Live roster update, when i download i have Jeter at CF, and Granderson at SS. I have DL it over and over doesnt fix it. I know i can set the lineup myself, just wondering if this is the only issue with it.

# 244 thinkblue_09 @ 03/04/10 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ellismarkman


	Ok so I have downloaded the first patch. I'm in spring training on franchise and when I try to make a trade it says that the team will consider my offer and get back to me in a few days. If I try to trade again it says I have already asked the team and they are considering the offer. I save turn off my ps3 then hours later turn it back on and try to trade again and get the message that says the team will consider my offer and get back to me in a few days. So in other words everything will save but my pending trade offers. Any ideas. I can send pictures of what I am talking about if needed. Thanks so much.

Sounds like you have the "Trade Pondering" option turned on or what ever it's called. They don't trade right away and instead take a few days IN GAME to accept or decline. You can change this by making the trades instant.

# 245 thinkblue_09 @ 03/04/10 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by MrArlingtonBeach


	I'm interested as well...has anyone else tried a Franchise with just the default rosters and not had any issues?

I've tried default rosters, profile loaded, default profile, new rosters, etc...I still end up getting players traded from me that I don't authorize. The computer just automatically asks for trades for some reason. If you control every team you will still get teams asking for a trade lol, which makes absolutely no sense.

# 246 ellismarkman @ 03/04/10 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by thinkblue_09


	Sounds like you have the "Trade Pondering" option turned on or what ever it's called. They don't trade right away and instead take a few days IN GAME to accept or decline. You can change this by making the trades instant.

Do you know how to change that setting without restarting my franchise? Thanks so much for ur help.

# 247 Knight165 @ 03/04/10 08:43 PM

I doubt there will be a home brew "work around" for this.
Obviously there is something triggering the game into thinking you have AUTO trades on.
I'm fairly confident this and the other fixes Kolbe mentioned will be resolved.
If they can pinpoint the problem....they are very good at taking care of it.
You gotta know this is pissing them off big time. They work hard on putting out a superior product and things like this making through Q&A must be extremely frustrating for them.

I think until then...we just have to make the best of it.

M.K.
Knight165

# 248 astronut @ 03/04/10 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Knight165


	If you select all 30 teams at the team control screen...set everything to AUTO(CPU)...you will be playing as if it was a one team franchise BUT...if you see anything you don't like.....you can then go into the profile assigned to whatever team you see something weird...take control....change it...then give control back. I would suggest this as in the off season....you might want to "nudge" teams into signing FA's and such. The only time you will be given the opportunity to "control"(basically like an overlord option...you are not really controlling anything UNLESS you choose to...and you can go back and forth) all 30 teams is when you BEGIN a franchise. Seriously....I don't see a downside to "controlling" all 30 teams. You can have the league play out any way you like....including giving every task to the CPU. M.K. Knight165

knight,

can you undo cpu trades that are bad between teams if you just have your 1 team set to control and all other teams are cpu controlled are do all 30 teams have to be selected at the beginning of franchise set up to be able to do this. thanks

# 249 Knight165 @ 03/04/10 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by astronut


	knight, can you undo cpu trades that are bad between teams if you just have your 1 team set to control and all other teams are cpu controlled are do all 30 teams have to be selected at the beginning of franchise set up to be able to do this. thanks

You must check off all teams to start.
Give them a profile with everything set to AUTO. This is basically the same as starting a 1 team franchise.
BUT...
If you see anything happen you don't like...you can go into PROFILE----VIEW----and then OPTIONS and change whatever option you need to ....to undo the move.(or create a different profile with separate options set to MANUAL and just assign that one to the correct team in the PROFILE ASSOCIATION screen.....then change it back to your all AUTO profile...after you fix what you need to.) It's very flexible.
You can then switch it back giving full control back to the CPU.
The only chance you get to be the "overlord" is when you first begin a franchise.

M.K.
Knight165

# 250 RogueHominid @ 03/04/10 09:07 PM

Okay, if I'm understanding this (the discussion has gotten significantly longer in the time it's taken me to go to the gym and cook dinner), taking control of all 30 teams and letting the other 29 do their thing for the most part works because you can go in and reverse anything you think is wack for the other teams.

Is that right?

It's obviously not ideal, but that's not so bad of a thing, imo. I can live with that.

Edit: Knight posted the answer while I was typing . . . nevermind. And thanks.

# 251 Theduke389 @ 03/04/10 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by xcef2005


	I was pretty worried about this, since I like playing random games in Franchise. Can anyone explain the situation or whats going on in the game when this happens? I just got done playing O's Vs Tampa and I had 0 problems. No freezing, no glitching and it played fine. Now if I play it again I might not get the same result but as far as me, I didnt have any problems. Now for that game I actually played both sides with one controller. What I mean by that is some innings I played pticher for both teams, other innings I was the batters for both teams. Just to see what would happen. So maybe that stopped freezing from happening. But again maybe I've just been lucky as I cant say I've had these problems yet.

Do we know if this is only at Tropicana field or is it just the Ray's when you play them at home in general?

# 252 thinkblue_09 @ 03/04/10 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ellismarkman


	Do you know how to change that setting without restarting my franchise? Thanks so much for ur help.

Without being in game I don't know for sure. I know there is an option in the Game Options screen or maybe in your profile screen that should allow you to change that whenever you want, in franchise or out of it.

# 253 tabarnes19_SDS @ 03/04/10 10:27 PM

For what it's worth guys. As Knight had said earlier I think trades are based off a few factors, salary, Potential, prospects......and contract length. Now running most sims I noticed that most players traded were in the last year of their deals. Even arbitration eligible players seem like they are in the last year of their contract, when technically they are still under team control.

To test the theory I used 30 team control, released beckett, ortiz, lester. then resigned them to 4 year deals. Gave control back to cpu and simmed. None of the players were traded. now the reason I find this significant is because each sim I have done up until this ortiz and beckett have been traded.

I think the cpu puts a little too much weight into trading players in last year of deals and not look at the other variables enough.

If some trades bother you and a short term work around would be to give the player an extra year or a player or club option.

# 254 Knight165 @ 03/04/10 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by tabarnes19


	For what it's worth guys. As Knight had said earlier I think trades are based off a few factors, salary, Potential, prospects......and contract length. Now running most sims I noticed that most players traded were in the last year of their deals. Even arbitration eligible players seem like they are in the last year of their contract, when technically they are still under team control. To test the theory I used 30 team control, released beckett, ortiz, lester. then resigned them to 4 year deals. Gave control back to cpu and simmed. None of the players were traded. now the reason I find this significant is because each sim I have done up until this ortiz and beckett have been traded. I think the cpu puts a little too much weight into trading players in last year of deals and not look at the other variables enough. If some trades bother you and a short term work around would be to give the player an extra year or a player or club option.

I believe you are correct.
I just tried the same thing.

Also...
Here is something that actually makes this bug a little "nice".

I took control of all 30 teams....I gave my profile to the Mets...left the rest NO PROFILE....went to GLOBAL options(which is what the NO PROFILE teams will follow)....and set everything EXCEPT trades to AUTO.
Now....the CPU is putting guys on the block and OFFERING trades...except I'M the one getting the offers(for ALL teams). If I don't like it...I turn it down. It's kind of like a commissioner overlord mode!
I'm still playing around with it...but no trades have been made this way w/o my authorization so far.
One thing I did notice...teams get desperate and put the player on the trading block repeatedly...as if screaming "LOOK WHO I HAVE ON THE BLOCK!"
Sometimes testing is fun.

M.K.
Knight165

# 255 tabarnes19_SDS @ 03/04/10 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Knight165


	I believe you are correct. I just tried the same thing. Also... Here is something that actually makes this bug a little "nice". I took control of all 30 teams....I gave my profile to the Mets...left the rest NO PROFILE....went to GLOBAL options(which is what the NO PROFILE teams will follow)....and set everything EXCEPT trades to AUTO. Now....the CPU is putting guys on the block and OFFERING trades...except I'M the one getting the offers(for ALL teams). If I don't like it...I turn it down. It's kind of like a commissioner overlord mode! I'm still playing around with it...but no trades have been made this way w/o my authorization so far. One thing I did notice...teams get desperate and put the player on the trading block repeatedly...as if screaming "LOOK WHO I HAVE ON THE BLOCK!" Sometimes testing is fun. M.K. Knight165

I agree wouldn't it be a great job, I guess as long as you love the game you are testing?

# 256 tabarnes19_SDS @ 03/04/10 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Knight165


	I believe you are correct. I just tried the same thing. Now....the CPU is putting guys on the block and OFFERING trades...except I'M the one getting the offers(for ALL teams). If I don't like it...I turn it down. It's kind of like a commissioner overlord mode! M.K. Knight165

What they say in those roster threads is true...KNIGHT IS GOD!!!

P.S. forgot to add great find!!! I am really liking this 30 team control so many options, when everything is ironed out with franchise bugs.....WOW will these be great.

# 257 The Chef @ 03/04/10 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Knight165


	I believe you are correct. I just tried the same thing. Also... Here is something that actually makes this bug a little "nice". I took control of all 30 teams....I gave my profile to the Mets...left the rest NO PROFILE....went to GLOBAL options(which is what the NO PROFILE teams will follow)....and set everything EXCEPT trades to AUTO. Now....the CPU is putting guys on the block and OFFERING trades...except I'M the one getting the offers(for ALL teams). If I don't like it...I turn it down. It's kind of like a commissioner overlord mode! I'm still playing around with it...but no trades have been made this way w/o my authorization so far. One thing I did notice...teams get desperate and put the player on the trading block repeatedly...as if screaming "LOOK WHO I HAVE ON THE BLOCK!" Sometimes testing is fun. M.K. Knight165

Sounds like a damn good find and an excellent way to avoid the trades issue so many have been complaining about. I have to ask though, is there any downside to this at all, in your opinion of course? It seems like it would solve it all, no need to consistently check the pending trades, no need to worry about the CPU making dumb roster moves etc.

# 258 wickedstrife @ 03/04/10 11:12 PM

I dont know if anyones mentioned yet but when i start playing a game in franchise all my settings reset to default. Also I've noticed that when i hit select and look at my batters stats it shows the left power is really low no matter what batter im using, im not sure if this actually affects the left power but its something to check out, and this isnt all in franchise mode though it also happens in exhibition and online. Well thanks for listening hope that helps you fix whatevers wrong.Oh and i have been using the yankees if that matters.

# 259 Knight165 @ 03/04/10 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by The Chef


	Sounds like a damn good find and an excellent way to avoid the trades issue so many have been complaining about. I have to ask though, is there any downside to this at all, in your opinion of course? It seems like it would solve it all, no need to consistently check the pending trades, no need to worry about the CPU making dumb roster moves etc.

I'm still looking.
At first offer...I was so disappointed(unwarranted)...as I thought the offer was 2 players from DET to my Mets...they were two players from Seattle or somewhere...so I'm thinking that the trades were done "behind my back".....then I saw the team on top of the trade box and realized what was happening.....and it was a GOOD thing!

Can some other guys try this?....and post if anything is a downside to this.
So far to me...it looks like the best of both worlds...controlling trading for everyone...but STILL getting the CPU to offer trades.
Add this to possibly fixing some of the contracts and we could have a workable franchise to use right away.

M.K.
Knight165

# 260 The Chef @ 03/04/10 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Knight165


	I'm still looking. At first offer...I was so disappointed(unwarranted)...as I thought the offer was 2 players from DET to my Mets...they were two players from Seattle or somewhere...so I'm thinking that the trades were done "behind my back".....then I saw the team on top of the trade box and realized what was happening.....and it was a GOOD thing! Can some other guys try this?....and post if anything is a downside to this. So far to me...it looks like the best of both worlds...controlling trading for everyone...but STILL getting the CPU to offer trades. Add this to possibly fixing some of the contracts and we could have a workable franchise to use right away. M.K. Knight165

Yeah, it almost seems too good to be true. So, let me make sure Im understanding correctly, but you have trading set to auto for everyone besides your own team using the "no profile" approach and yet the teams are still proposing trades but now all of them are up to you to either approve or deny? If thats the case then I almost hope they dont fix it as this would be perfect for what I want to do.

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