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MLB '10: The Show - Franchise Issues Update

07:41 PM - March 2, 2010 by Kolbe

Here is our list of the current known issues that we're looking into for immediate attention:

Attendance:
Attendance is not correctly getting reported. In talking with Jeff, he has a fix in mind that is fairly safe but would end up in the actual attendance not mirroring the paid attendance you get in franchise. It would fix the issue where you have 50k+ people attending Spring Training games. This will also fix issues with playoff games and games played in any stadium that isn't your own.
* UPDATE - This was caused by the stadium select screen being added to franchise, causing the attendance to be reset using the non-franchise logic. The stadium select was previously never used for playoff games, so it didn't handle that situation. This is fixed and it also fixes the issue with spring training games showing the attendance as if they were in their home stadium.

Trade Waivers:
Users can claim anyone off of trade waivers - CPU teams will never pull them back.
* UPDATE - fixed this one - a simple fix that will prevent user teams from simply claiming everyone that was passed through trade waivers.

No Contract:
Players can get into a state where they have no contract.
* UPDATE - As soon as a player was placed on release waivers, his contract was cleared. Then if he was claimed, he didn't have a contract. It was also clearing his 40-man roster status, which is what was causing him to go to AAA instead of the MLB team. Have a fix for this.

Player Potential:
Looks like a fairly bad miscommunication ended up with us having some seriously out of whack potentials. This will be corrected with the next roster download (Monday)
* UPDATE - Lorne is taking care of this - will be fixed with a roster update.

Multi Closer issue:
If a CPU team has 2 closers (one acquired in a trade) - they will always send one down to AAA.
* UPDATE - It would just look at the closers and see that they had more than they needed so they'd send one down, but they wouldn't look to see if they could send down a reliever instead and keep the 2nd closer in the bullpen. Have a fix for this.

Multi Trade players:
Not even sure what the details are on this one, but it looks like sometimes a player is traded and then re-traded or waived. Currently investigating.
* UPDATE - I have a fix for the trades. I'll not allow a player to be placed on the trading block by the CPU if he has been acquired by a trade recently.

Manual Trade issue:
I've seen a few reports of users having trades set to Manual and still having trades done by the CPU. Again, no idea how this is happening and we're looking for more information.
* UPDATE - Not sure what's happening here, we can not get this one to reproduce. Whoever is getting this, please make sure that you don't have your profile option set to something different than your global setting. If you need to talk to me via PM or IM for further info, please just say the word!
* UPDATE 2 Thanks to tabarnes19 and a couple hours of debugging we have found the issue and have a fix in the works.

If you respond, please please PLEASE do not be noise. We need clear help or silence - we want these things cleared up as much as you do!

-K

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# 221 thinkblue_09 @ 03/04/10 04:02 PM

Nope, no work around. I thought I may have found one, because the computer did nothing for me until late July, but then in late July there was the dreaded unauthorized trade lol. So still nothing; while I was watching I notice that A. Pujols was traded from the Cards to the Tigers, and then from the Tigers to the Royals.....Horrible trade logic.

# 222 stormshadow1 @ 03/04/10 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by countryboy


	your problem is that you want to simulate a bunch of seasons at once correct? There is no possible way to do that without the cpu trading for you unless you use the workaround methods. None. You're either going to have to: a) watch the pending transactions page and back out any trade the cpu proposes for your team b) Control all 30 teams and then undo any trades the cpu makes for your team c) control all 30 teams and set the trading to manual and do trades yourself d) turn off trades. e) wait for the patch before playing franchise f) trade in the game There are your options...

Country, I thought I saw somewhere that even the CPU to CPU trades were crazy. Other than turning off trades all together, do you think these workarounds fix that? Trades such as Beckett, Lester and Ortiz for a home plate.

Well, after reading above, in order to play this game pre-patch realistically, may have to do every trade manually. Trade Logic needs an enima.

# 223 mjarz02 @ 03/04/10 04:08 PM

with the crazy trades, are people seeing low potential players like Cano being trade for high potential A prospects??

# 224 countryboy @ 03/04/10 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by KingSeyton


	Ok dude, I don't know who you are, but just because you had 1 idea and it'd would be to big a pain in the rear end to do, doesn't make you the end all be all. Look up 5 posts, there is someone else working on another possible workaround.

Look..more mocking. Not the end all be all guy, just trying to provide you with the options that will serve as workarounds until the patch comes out, providing there is one.

# 225 Dmrepsuga5 @ 03/04/10 04:22 PM

I'm just going to make everything manual so that I don't have to deal with the faulty logic. plus, I want the teams to mirror real life, so if I control all 30 teams and have trades set to manual...nothing should happen unless I make the trade right?

or even in the above scenario, does the CPU still trade? If so, I will cry.

# 226 countryboy @ 03/04/10 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by rondoman


	Ok I got a question for those of you guys that know this stuff. I want to control the Brewers in franchise and do not want any trading done except by me to mirror real life situations. I want to skip spring training, set lineups and rotations for all the teams and want them to stick and not change without me doing it. So how do I do that? I dont want the CPU trading with itself or with me without me authorizing it. I also want injuries off. So how? Thanks in advance!!!

Control all 30 teams and change all their roster management options to manual. This should eliminate the bug where the cpu trades for human controlled teams because with that bug, the cpu only proposes trades, he doesn't accept them.

Just pay attention to the pending transactions page and your emails. Should the cpu propose a trade for you, simply go in and back that trade out.

# 227 countryboy @ 03/04/10 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Dmrepsuga5


	I'm just going to make everything manual so that I don't have to deal with the faulty logic. plus, I want the teams to mirror real life, so if I control all 30 teams and have trades set to manual...nothing should happen unless I make the trade right? or even in the above scenario, does the CPU still trade? If so, I will cry.

It shouldn't because the bug only causes the cpu to propose trades, not accept them. So if its trying to trade with another human controlled team, the trade should go unaccepted.

# 228 countryboy @ 03/04/10 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by stormshadow1


	Country, I thought I saw somewhere that even the CPU to CPU trades were crazy. Other than turning off trades all together, do you think these workarounds fix that? Trades such as Beckett, Lester and Ortiz for a home plate. Well, after reading above, in order to play this game pre-patch realistically, may have to do every trade manually. Trade Logic needs an enima.

nope. Outside of controlling every team and setting their trades to manual(or turning off trades altogether), there is no way of stopping these trades.

And fyi, the reason these trades are made is because the cpu is trying to dump high dollar amount players in the final year of their contract, or high aged players at the end of their contract. At least a great majority of these are due to that. Same with the waiver wire "issue".

# 229 stormshadow1 @ 03/04/10 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by countryboy


	nope. Outside of controlling every team and setting their trades to manual(or turning off trades altogether), there is no way of stopping these trades. And fyi, the reason these trades are made is because the cpu is trying to dump high dollar amount players in the final year of their contract, or high aged players at the end of their contract. At least a great majority of these are due to that. Same with the waiver wire "issue".

Does this sound patchable?

# 230 EWRMETS @ 03/04/10 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by KingSeyton


	I don't understand not simming in franchise mode, franchise mode is set up to play 20-30 seasons, not just the 1. I understand that franchise is better than season mode for one season because it is more in depth, but I don't think most people use it for that, they use it to do a bunch of seasons and draft their own players and things like that.

I never have really done that in baseball games. If you really want to do this, I would suggest turning off trading. In my opinion, it's a bad idea to wait for a patch. I did that last year with the Show and this year with Madden. I end up losing interest in the game by the time the patch comes out.

# 231 countryboy @ 03/04/10 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by KingSeyton


	I'm mocking? How many times have you said 'you've obviously made up your mind'. Just leave me alone dude, we've discussed your options, I've said they won't work for me or anyone else that wants to play more than 1 or 2 seasons of franchise, so either come up with something new or stop responding to me. For god's sake please.

works for me and I'm going to play more than 1 or 2 seasons. Playing one now.

Just so you know...these workarounds are just until they release the patch. I'm not sure how many seasons you are hoping to accomplish in a month's time or with the game, but imo, doing one of the workarounds, sure beats sitting on the game.

But I'll stop trying to help you.

# 232 countryboy @ 03/04/10 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by EWRMETS


	I never have really done that in baseball games. If you really want to do this, I would suggest turning off trading. In my opinion, it's a bad idea to wait for a patch. I did that last year with the Show and this year with Madden. I end up losing interest in the game by the time the patch comes out.

agreed about waiting for the patch. Just use the workarounds that have been provided and then when the patch comes out, you won't have to use them anymore and you won't be missing a month of playing franchise due to waiting for a patch.

# 233 thinkblue_09 @ 03/04/10 04:40 PM

Someone needs to find out how to fire this Assistant GM guy who proposed all these trades w/o the GM's knowledge lol

# 234 Risin @ 03/04/10 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by cardsfan2222


	If you haven't already, make sure you post it in the bugs and glitches thread. It's wierd that this only happens with the O's.

Do the O's open in Tampa Bay?

If so, it's not the Orioles, it's playing in Tampa Bay. Even in exhibition, whenever I use any team vs. Tampa (in Tampa Bay) the game crashes in the late innings.

# 235 tabarnes19_SDS @ 03/04/10 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by KingSeyton


	I've said I like going 10-15 seasons so that I have a team full of players I drafted and have developed, you know, like I built my own FRANCHISE. And simming these 1 day at a time and checking pending transactions after EVERY simmed game is a bit rediculous guy, if you don't think so then you are easily.... the most patient man in the world (xx ftw)! But lets say I do your thing, which I guess I will have to do if no one here come up with a better idea or I don't feel like taking the $20 hit on trading the game in, will the patch fix the franchise I have in progress or would I have to start all over once it is release like with the roster update.

King, We are all disappointed, everyone plays the game a different way. I sim months at a time as well, play big series, and try to build a dynasty.

We know there is many problems right now, BUT complaining about it does nothing. We will either freak out, or work together as a community and try to find work arounds to these issues to a patch is released.

They (devs) know the problems, we need to help find the cause, what triggers them, so they can be fixed.

# 236 countryboy @ 03/04/10 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by KingSeyton


	I've said I like going 10-15 seasons so that I have a team full of players I drafted and have developed, you know, like I built my own FRANCHISE. And simming these 1 day at a time and checking pending transactions after EVERY simmed day is a bit rediculous guy, if you don't think so then you are easily.... the most patient man in the world (xx ftw)! But lets say I do your thing, which I guess I will have to do if no one here come up with a better idea or I don't feel like taking the $20 hit on trading the game in, will the patch fix the franchise I have in progress or would I have to start all over once it is release like with the roster update.

The idea isn't mine, someone else came up with it..I'm just passing it along.

the patch should work for a franchise already in progress. But even if it doesn't, you can continue to use the workarounds to keep playing.

# 237 countryboy @ 03/04/10 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by KingSeyton


	My biggest concern is that the developers have this issue at the bottom of the ones they are looking at, I sure hope they know how big of a mess up this is for franchise mode. To me this is bigger than the potential ratings because the potential doesn't matter if it is going to take a month to get through 1 season.

Kolbe, one of the developers, started this thread.

Its a big deal to them...trust me.

# 238 Microsoft_Works @ 03/04/10 05:17 PM

If the potential rating fix will help with the ridiculous trades (example: 2-3 elite MLB players with D potential being traded for one prospect with A potential, happens far to much) then I think I can look past the other bugs and begin my franchise.

Hoping this is what happens.

# 239 MrArlingtonBeach @ 03/04/10 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Grydnt Vektr211


	Someone else try this please. I just simluated a whole season and i didn't see any stupid trades or people claiming guys off of waiver or anything of the sort. When I selected my team I put my psn as or profile name under the team control screen( i'm playing with the brewers) and I didn't have any problems. Also I am playing with the DEFAULT rosters. It seem like evertime I load the rosters for the season, all that other mess start to happen. I want someone else to see if this works. ok

I'm interested as well...has anyone else tried a Franchise with just the default rosters and not had any issues?

# 240 ellismarkman @ 03/04/10 05:56 PM

Ok so I have downloaded the first patch. I'm in spring training on franchise and when I try to make a trade it says that the team will consider my offer and get back to me in a few days. If I try to trade again it says I have already asked the team and they are considering the offer. I save turn off my ps3 then hours later turn it back on and try to trade again and get the message that says the team will consider my offer and get back to me in a few days. So in other words everything will save but my pending trade offers. Any ideas. I can send pictures of what I am talking about if needed. Thanks so much.

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