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NBA 2K10 Patch #2 Available For 360 & PS3, Post Impressions Here

03:17 PM - January 11, 2010 by kennyacid

Patch #2 for NBA 2K10 is now available for the PS3. The 360 and PC patches, will be released at a later date.

Details for the patch, can be found here.

Please post your impressions here.

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# 441 BroMontana82 @ 01/22/10 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ronyell


	yu're too right... thats why i went ahead & started my association because its already bout to be february & im tired of waiting. i've seen a lot of yur contributions & based on that, i think you would probably enjoy my "yellz association experience file" that im working.

yeah i'll check it out for sure. do you mean your sliders or your actual association file? also, are you starting all over again?

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Originally Posted by ronyell


	^ i can confirm this! and this is not using an existing association, it was using a brand new one but i did find a resolution. if you have this problem: BEFORE you start your association, you have to go to those players that have the "2010 - 2011 contract glitch" like (Boykins, Udoka, Antonio Daniels, Tinsley, Barry) & so on.... sign them to a team & then edit their contracts so that is only a value in the first year & the others are greyed out & then save.... then release the player from the team & repeat steps for all of the problem players.... save the roster & start a new association using that roster & the issue will be resolved. it seems like they made the problem fixable with the patch but did not actually fixi the ACTUAL problem with the players themselves.

quick question about this fix as i just deleted EVERYTHING minus my roster file and am about to reluctantly start an association with player roles off. do you have to assign them to a team or can you just edit their contracts in the FA pool and save? and basically, you just give them a salary of 0 year 1 correct? b/c otherwise, all the other years won't grey out?

# 442 keshunleon @ 01/22/10 08:08 PM

The gameplay with the 2nd patch has degraded:

The cpu scores 85% of there points directly under the basket.

Dribbling is back worse, some crossovers hesitate so the defender can keep up and its back to the erky jerky motions.

The post game is gone!
I can't back smaller players down hardly. If I do I get that ******** one handed awkward/backward toss up. That animation happens about 90% of the time when the cpu is making a run.

I can't get any easy layups around the basket; most of the animations help the defender play D.

For some reason my teams defense awareness is at 0!
My players leave there man/switch for no reason leaving players wide open .

I don't know how many times a player is running back on D then turns around to double team someone at half court. Now the guy he was defending gets a easy dunk/layup.
It seems my teams get in bad positions and when I switch to the player and put him back the other guy I switched from does the same thing.

# 443 tgballin @ 01/22/10 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by d12orlando


	Pick and roll or pop is the cornerstone for most teams. Its effective and hard to stop but you can if you concentrate. The cpu plays much better and smarter. They take what you give them. If you give them easy shots they will take it. Like real life. You play good D and they force shots. Superstars really do take over as well when their team is struggling. With your pick and roll issue, if you see your cpu teammate go with the handler why don't you go with the roller? Like real life. Or you can icon switch to the other player and make sure he doesn't follow the ball and stays with his man so he can't roll to the basket. Pick and roll isn't just about rolling to the basket but also to create switches for mismatches. Like do you try to go with Nash or do you switch? You often see teams irl actually switch since Nash is knockdown shooter and they end up with a point guard on Stoudamire. Pick your poison. But if you have a strong defender who can slip the screen easily then go early. If you go early and stay completely with your man I find that the cpu teammate won't double and stay with the screen. If you can get adept at icon switching on the fly and rotate yourself (don't have to do it too often, only when you feel like you need to, like when you switch to a big man for a weak side block if you feel you will get beaten off the dribble) the game plays realistic. Just remember that the opposition cpu will take what you give. So concentrate on their big guns and give their crapper players j's. I don't mean to sound pretentious. I'm not an expert at this game by any means and I do not defend pick and rolls with amazing consistency. But I do know how to stop it and when I apply it and pull it off it works. Sometimes it doesn't because of a delayed reaction from me or because my player is flat out bad at defending. However I've been playing on default sliders for testing and I do agree that scores tend to be a bit high. But I only get about 35-45 cpu PIP per game (I play with Magic and DH actually scares them, when he is off the floor they try to drive relentlessly but when he is on they don't. I was impressed by that). I play on 12 minute quarters so I'm thinking of lowering the shooting sliders coz cpu gets about 50% shooting and if the high scores are volume based instead of shooting percentage then maybe lower maybe game speed or 11 minute quarters instead for lower scores. Final note. I just find it unbelievable that 2k can completely break an important part of Association. Players roles help make association real and you simply have to turn it off if you want to play association. Well and truly disappointing.

this is encouraging, i may dL the patch now.
nice post, thanx,

# 444 Yeah...THAT Guy @ 01/22/10 11:57 PM

Ugh, this patch murdered online play for me. All of a sudden everyone uses the Mavs and Dirk Nowitzki is literally the only player that scores but he makes every single shot even when he shoots a 3 out of the double team... I've been reading that this patch made it harder for cheesers cuz you can't drive and dunk at will but seriously it's not even fair if you use Dirk now. And they definitely overdid the blocking in this patch; defenders don't even have to jump to swat your dunk to half court. I play sim online, but when I'm able to get nice penetration for a dunk and nobody contests it and it gets sent back to halfcourt still? not for me.

# 445 iRebound @ 01/23/10 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Yeah...THAT Guy


	Ugh, this patch murdered online play for me. All of a sudden everyone uses the Mavs and Dirk Nowitzki is literally the only player that scores but he makes every single shot even when he shoots a 3 out of the double team... I've been reading that this patch made it harder for cheesers cuz you can't drive and dunk at will but seriously it's not even fair if you use Dirk now. And they definitely overdid the blocking in this patch; defenders don't even have to jump to swat your dunk to half court. I play sim online, but when I'm able to get nice penetration for a dunk and nobody contests it and it gets sent back to halfcourt still? not for me.

I went back to played an online ranked matched again and people still can cheese... I dunno. I remember how pissed off I was now...cuz most folks just go to the paint 90% of the time cuz it's so EASY to do!!!

I guess it's back to private match using Pared's sliders again

# 446 fatboy @ 01/23/10 02:43 PM

Im having an issue with the patch not "staying" on my console everytime I go offline. After downloading then go offline, the game glitches are back, but then when I reconnect it gives the "update is available....." message and dloads the patch again. I usually play offline. Ive already erased my saved items then re dload the patch, still does the same thing. Does anybody know a fix for this?

# 447 JBH3 @ 01/24/10 02:43 PM

I won't be downloading the 2nd patch. The games plays great for me now, and if it's not broke don't fix it.

# 448 Yeah...THAT Guy @ 01/24/10 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by JBH3


	I won't be downloading the 2nd patch. The games plays great for me now, and if it's not broke don't fix it.

I wish I hadn't, but I like playing online so I'm gonna need it anyway.

# 449 ronyell @ 01/24/10 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by sambf12


	yeah i'll check it out for sure. do you mean your sliders or your actual association file? also, are you starting all over again? quick question about this fix as i just deleted EVERYTHING minus my roster file and am about to reluctantly start an association with player roles off. do you have to assign them to a team or can you just edit their contracts in the FA pool and save? and basically, you just give them a salary of 0 year 1 correct? b/c otherwise, all the other years won't grey out?

im talking about an association file... i have EVERYTHING up to date up until yesterday.

& yes you do have to assign them to a team or it to work. (dont know why)

# 450 Heiks @ 01/26/10 09:09 AM

My Player is almost unplayable because of the substitution logic. This is what just happened to me:

My Cavs decide to run this lineup in the 3rd quarter of a close game against Magic:

PG - Mo Williams
SG - West
SF - Parker
PF - My 6'6'' SF
C - Lebron

Magic has both Howard and Gortat on court, we got absolutely no boards and can't run the fast break with no defensive rebounding. Disaster.

Later in the 4th when we're already down by 15 the "savior" lineup is following:

PG - My 6'6'' SF
SG - Powe
SF - Varejao
PF - Ilgauskas
C - Shaq

Combine that lineup with the 3 point shooting glitch and you will fall into deep depression.

# 451 Bornindamecca @ 01/26/10 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Heiks


	My Player is almost unplayable because of the substitution logic. This is what just happened to me: My Cavs decide to run this lineup in the 3rd quarter of a close game against Magic: PG - Mo Williams SG - West SF - Parker PF - My 6'6'' SF C - Lebron Magic has both Howard and Gortat on court, we got absolutely no boards and can't run the fast break with no defensive rebounding. Disaster. Later in the 4th when we're already down by 15 the "savior" lineup is following: PG - My 6'6'' SF SG - Powe SF - Varejao PF - Ilgauskas C - Shaq Combine that lineup with the 3 point shooting glitch and you will fall into deep depression.

That sucks. Reminds me of my PG that was with Washington. Whenever we went extremely small like that, I'd call isolation plays for my PF's and C's, and we'd score on the mismatch. You can cause TO's with ball pressure and keep things close. Go into your coach menu, assign one of the "1-4 High" isolation plays to your PF and C, and run it as soon as you have a mismatch. With Lebron running it, you should get a bucket every time either on the drive or the pass.

Illustrator, Ronyell and everyone else, thanks for the impressions. i think you guys saved me a headache by recommending I ignore this patch.

# 452 Jasong7777 @ 01/26/10 10:05 AM

To me the game plays just as good after patch 2 as it did after patch 1. It's a bit different as far as defense and FG percentages. Have not seen any crazy 3's by bigmen. I do however have the roles and chem turned off. After a couple of tweeks to Pared's sliders, I am getting realistic stats for me and the cpu.

# 453 BroMontana82 @ 01/26/10 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Jasong7777


	To me the game plays just as good after patch 2 as it did after patch 1. It's a bit different as far as defense and FG percentages. Have not seen any crazy 3's by bigmen. I do however have the roles and chem turned off. After a couple of tweeks to Pared's sliders, I am getting realistic stats for me and the cpu.

you can turn chemistry on too and you'll still fix the 3 pt problem.

# 454 Jasong7777 @ 01/26/10 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by sambf12


	you can turn chemistry on too and you'll still fix the 3 pt problem.

Ok, thanks.

# 455 NINJAK2 @ 01/26/10 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Heiks


	My Player is almost unplayable because of the substitution logic. This is what just happened to me: My Cavs decide to run this lineup in the 3rd quarter of a close game against Magic: PG - Mo Williams SG - West SF - Parker PF - My 6'6'' SF C - Lebron Magic has both Howard and Gortat on court, we got absolutely no boards and can't run the fast break with no defensive rebounding. Disaster. Later in the 4th when we're already down by 15 the "savior" lineup is following: PG - My 6'6'' SF SG - Powe SF - Varejao PF - Ilgauskas C - Shaq Combine that lineup with the 3 point shooting glitch and you will fall into deep depression.

That's Mike Brown's coaching A.I./expertise hard at work...

# 456 bcruise @ 01/26/10 09:44 PM

I tried a few search strings on this thread but didn't really turn up anything useful...

Is there any kind of major drawback to turning off player roles to fix big man shooting 3's? Does it affect any other aspects of gameplay?

What exactly do player roles do, anyway?

# 457 BroMontana82 @ 01/27/10 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by bcruise


	I tried a few search strings on this thread but didn't really turn up anything useful... Is there any kind of major drawback to turning off player roles to fix big man shooting 3's? Does it affect any other aspects of gameplay? What exactly do player roles do, anyway?

player roles will bring personality types into play more and also affect attributes, ratings and whether or not a player will like a transaction more or less. for example, if you change dwight howards role to bench player...he'd going to get mad and it will affect his standing with the team and his ratings.

i just found out there is a drawback to turning roles off...after i started my association and thought we were good to go and got past the 3 pt. chaos. basically, you will see a TON of trades every month. guys going to multiple teams. not just bench players but solid players and some stars. Every month too. i simmed a bunch and you will see an insane number of trades.

# 458 rspencer86 @ 01/27/10 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by sambf12


	player roles will bring personality types into play more and also affect attributes, ratings and whether or not a player will like a transaction more or less. for example, if you change dwight howards role to bench player...he'd going to get mad and it will affect his standing with the team and his ratings. i just found out there is a drawback to turning roles off...after i started my association and thought we were good to go and got past the 3 pt. chaos. basically, you will see a TON of trades every month. guys going to multiple teams. not just bench players but solid players and some stars. Every month too. i simmed a bunch and you will see an insane number of trades.

Yeah, it's almost a must to turn trades off if you turn Player Roles off. I've seen a player get traded to a team only to have that player get traded back to his original team (for the same player he was swapped for originally, no less).

I guess I'll just let all player movement take place during free agency.

# 459 joet6683 @ 01/27/10 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Heiks


	My Player is almost unplayable because of the substitution logic. This is what just happened to me: My Cavs decide to run this lineup in the 3rd quarter of a close game against Magic: PG - Mo Williams SG - West SF - Parker PF - My 6'6'' SF C - Lebron Magic has both Howard and Gortat on court, we got absolutely no boards and can't run the fast break with no defensive rebounding. Disaster. Later in the 4th when we're already down by 15 the "savior" lineup is following: PG - My 6'6'' SF SG - Powe SF - Varejao PF - Ilgauskas C - Shaq Combine that lineup with the 3 point shooting glitch and you will fall into deep depression.

I dont understand it at all. I'm a 6'2'' pg on the thunder...typical in game lineup (at first dead ball of game...they give me 38 min a game as the 12th man off the bench)

1 - me
2 - westbrook
3 - harden
4 - durant
5 - green

then the small lineup:
1 - me
2 - maynor
3 - westbrook
4 - harden
5 - durant

then the most jacked up lineup...they seem to use it more vs teams with dominant big men:

1 - me
2 - maynor
3 - westbrook
4 - harden/durant - ive seen both in this situation, but its usually harden
5.....GRANT FREAKING HILL. They traded for him, and play him at C????

worst sub logic ever in this mode. then end of game they like to bring collison in at C. Ok at least he has a little size right? Too bad he just stands 20 feet from the basket...and he likes to throw up airballs from 3.

# 460 Jasong7777 @ 01/27/10 12:41 PM

Still loving this game, even after patch #2!!!!!!!!

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