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NBA Live 10 Patch Impressions (360, PS3)

10:42 AM - October 26, 2009 by Da_Czar

Just plugged in NBA Live 10 and received the patch. What's in the patch you ask? Read all about it, right here.

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# 781 Vechi8 @ 11/25/09 02:45 AM

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Originally Posted by ehh


	In part because EA's attention to detail in the game is poor, especially with the ratings. It definitely has a college feel though, you have to play team ball or you'll be in trouble for the most part. If they could correct the CPU's offense with the passing out of the post then I'll keep the game and enjoy it, it does enough things well and I'm a college basketball nut. If EA doesn't fix it then there's no reason for me to keep it.

To be a broken record, that little face up 6 ft pop in post, can't take it anymore! I tried everything.

# 782 ehh @ 11/25/09 02:48 AM

And to compound things damn near every PF has the same jump shot animation.

# 783 DirtyJerz32 @ 11/25/09 02:49 AM

I'm going to hold off on picking up Live again but, if NCAA doesn't end up getting a patch or something regarding the post issues I may have to say good bye. I just hate when a game has so much potential and then has one or two glaring issues that takes away from the entire package. Hopefully we'll here something.

Anyway, back on topic.

I figures the DNA was gonna come through and help out the gameplay. Keep up the impressions guys. Has there been any word on the 2nd patch?

# 784 ehh @ 11/25/09 02:56 AM

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Originally Posted by DirtyJerz32


	I figures the DNA was gonna come through and help out the gameplay. Keep up the impressions guys. Has there been any word on the 2nd patch?

Last I read was in the Patch 2 thread and either blackflash or iminurbase said it's a few weeks away from being submitted to Sony/MS so I'm guessing that we won't be using until close to New Year's. They said they're still testing things which is a good thing IMO, no need to rush this patch out and have it fix five things but break five new things.

I'm making a little mix of replays from my Lakers/Knicks game, probably won't be up for close to an hour though, I saved way too many replays.

# 785 Vechi8 @ 11/25/09 03:01 AM

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Originally Posted by DirtyJerz32


	I'm going to hold off on picking up Live again but, if NCAA doesn't end up getting a patch or something regarding the post issues I may have to say good bye. I just hate when a game has so much potential and then has one or two glaring issues that takes away from the entire package. Hopefully we'll here something. Anyway, back on topic. I figures the DNA was gonna come through and help out the gameplay. Keep up the impressions guys. Has there been any word on the 2nd patch?

I did not play the game for a long time before the weekend and what a difference in terms of fouls. Saw off ball fouls (illegal screens) Fast breaks were not killer but had a few for me and they had a few. Iso was very good. Post play was awesome, both o and d. Like the turnovers. Never fealt like I could not stop them, even though they would at times put it to me. I really enjoyed the game, played 3 games in the dynamic season

# 786 ehh @ 11/25/09 03:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Court_vision


	Always? Damm.

It's horrible, the sad thing is you can easily improve it tenfold (I'll refrain from saying fix it) by creating a custom playbook that removes the plays that have a post touch in the first couple steps of a play or motion and then assign it to the CPU. The problem is that you can only change the CPU's playbook in exhibition games and not in dynasty mode.

So basically NCAA 10 is fine right now for exhibition games, but who the hell wants to go all winter playing only exhibition games vs the CPU?

# 787 Vechi8 @ 11/25/09 03:08 AM

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Originally Posted by ehh


	It's horrible, the sad thing is you can easily improve it tenfold (I'll refrain from saying fix it) by creating a custom playbook that removes the plays that have a post touch in the first couple steps of a play or motion and then assign it to the CPU. The problem is that you can only change the CPU's playbook in exhibition games and not in dynasty mode. So basically NCAA 10 is fine right now for exhibition games, but who the hell wants to go all winter playing only exhibition games vs the CPU?

Know what else, didn't you start to feel that down low on drives that you had seen the same contact screen before?

# 788 DirtyJerz32 @ 11/25/09 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Vechi8


	Know what else, didn't you start to feel that down low on drives that you had seen the same contact screen before?

I know I have...

# 789 23 @ 11/25/09 12:33 PM

Funny man. Give yourself some time with this game before you declare it awesome. You just went down into the mud and now you picked your head up.

I still can't play this game for too long. Those contact animations just dont work for me in this game and animations are limited here too. When you leave this game alone for awhile, you have a blast when you put it back in, but then after a few games and you see the same things over and over and whamo.

Brandon Jennings is still fun to run around with though

# 790 Vechi8 @ 11/25/09 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by 23


	Funny man. Give yourself some time with this game before you declare it awesome. You just went down into the mud and now you picked your head up. I still can't play this game for too long. Those contact animations just dont work for me in this game and animations are limited here too. When you leave this game alone for awhile, you have a blast when you put it back in, but then after a few games and you see the same things over and over and whamo. Brandon Jennings is still fun to run around with though

With you. To an extent this is true with every sports game wouldn't you say

# 791 23 @ 11/25/09 12:56 PM

No I wouldn't. I'd say that for whatever reason this game was no longer as fun as it was pre patch for some reason. Whatever changed ruined some of the fun factor in certain areas.

Every sports game isnt as limited, especially in animations and thus doesnt have as short of a window of error.

Ehh was playing a game more limited than this one and he now realizes it after having something to compare it to.

# 792 blues rocker @ 11/25/09 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ataman5


	Well, guys i really can't understand guys whining about the patch at all; i can't tell how much it improves the game in simulation wise. I haven't encountered with thE OT bug; i know that's a big problem all right but other than that, this patch feels just right with all the new dna updates. And for those complaning about the sucking contact animation in the paint, that's how the nba plays guys cmoon now, if you want paint to be owned easily then go play the ''other game'', but if you want some chest to chest real life nba excitement, you gotta learn to how to play, i can get into paint guys like Jamal Crawford, or D.Rose or D. Will, when you got it right, you'll get your easy bucket, if you just think you can go inside and get an easy one, that's not the game for you, i don't wanna flare anything, that's how it is, there are guys here just do injustice to the game and the patch. I really would The Ea Devs to hear me out, again i have told this before the 1st patch arrived, please keep on the same route with this game and the followings; just don't make things easy just for people like it to be please. Keep up the good work, thanks for this game.

Yes, I agree - I love Live's body contact. I find that Live's contact is realistic and appropriate in most situations. The only area where Live needs more contact is on dunks. Dunk animations cannot be disturbed at all. Once a guy is in the air, you cannot bump him or create contact with him at all. This needs to be fixed so that if a guy is in mid air going for a dunk and I press the block button and jump into him, the dunk animation should be broken and he should go into a "flailing" contact animation and he should lose the ball and not complete the dunk.

# 793 ehh @ 11/25/09 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by 23


	I still can't play this game for too long. Those contact animations just dont work for me in this game and animations are limited here too. When you leave this game alone for awhile, you have a blast when you put it back in, but then after a few games and you see the same things over and over and whamo.

On Pro the contact isn't bad, you get a decent amount but it was never a user problem for me on Pro. My biggest problem with the contact before was in terms of the CPU, they'd just go flying into the paint and run into your defenders because the DNA was telling them to drive. I'd sit there wondering why they are doing it over and over again (like many things with the CPU offense before the big DNA update).

In the game and a half I played since the update the CPU has used their escape dribble and pulled the ball out and reset so many times. They rarely did that before, the CPU seems way better at recognizing where your defenders are now.

# 794 phant030 @ 11/25/09 02:53 PM

^Right. I want the game to recognize the "Why". Why did he drive right? Did he pull up because of help? Did he drive to the basket b/c of no help? Did he drive b/c the jumper wasnt hittinh? DNA doesnt help this. Enhance Situation awareness and Matchup awareness and that should take care of itself.

# 795 loadleft @ 11/25/09 03:32 PM

I was really hopeful after reading all the post update comments but after playing 2.5 games I just cut the 360 off! Same post patch garbage as before except the CPU has slowed down their attack and the files are a little less lopsided but still not balanced. I plan on keeping the game (why trash $60) in hopes that patch 2 will return it to pre-patch control.

I can't for the life of me understand how when everyone was raving over the control this game gave you pre-patch that they would take that away. I assume it was because some were whining about no physical D or the ability to stay with there man, EA now sucks you to your check so much that you have to gap him 10ft to stay out of the "magnetic field"! I have to play way off or the CPU will make some kind of move that will suck me to the offensive player then use that momentum/inertia against me! That alone is a game breaker for me, especially after previously being able to shade my check to either side and play the angles! The major problem for me is they ruined the D on both sides, CPU & Human.

I also want my control back! I can't stand to press the button to pass and my man shoots or when I switched to run towards the rebound but after I moved the joystick my man jumped for a ball that wasn't near him. The pauses/lag/delays after certain events (taking control of a player, landing after jumping, pump faking, etc.) have been in Live forever but this year they are really annoying me post patch.

I just feel like the Dev's coward-ed to the whiners and tried to make the game easier to control by removing some of the control and now it's just a mess. I guess I will go back to lurking while sucking at MW2 in hopes to read a post-patch-2 post that says Live is back to being back! LOL

Problems for me are:
1. Suction!!! Suction!!! Suction!!!
2. Ridiculously unbalanced contact shot abilities between CPU/User
3. Ignorant CPU controlled teammates
4. I feel like the control input is now a request system instead of commands, I press "pass" he might pass (he will most of the time) but he might shoot. All I can do is simply request that he passes and he (the player under my control, supposedly) will consider it, LOL!
5. The fact that basket ball IQ isn't what wins this game it's video game basketball IQ.
6. Drive and kick game is different from before, I can put my finger on what it is but it's off.
7. CPU doesn't have to run plays but user does

There's so much more but it's not my intent to trash the game for others, because I still prefer Live over other options, I am just hoping that the Dev's will give credence to my whining like they apparently have others. What this means for me is there will not be any sports on my systems this year.

# 796 Pappy Knuckles @ 11/25/09 04:04 PM

After playing both games I can still say that I like NBA Live better. I hope the clanked dunks get taken care of sooner or later though...

# 797 loadleft @ 11/25/09 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Pappy Knuckles


	After playing both games I can still say that I like NBA Live better. I hope the clanked dunks get taken care of sooner or later though...

I too prefer Live. I forgot to mention the dunks. I wish they would scrap patch 1 and add manual back down to pre patch Live.

# 798 23 @ 11/25/09 04:47 PM

good post loadleft

# 799 loadleft @ 11/25/09 05:17 PM

^ Thanks. One other thing that goes in the control department:
Why, if I am going to be given the control to manually protect my dribble/post up, is there CPU controlled back down of user controlled players on the perimeter? The problem is that if I am on the perimeter and I call for a pick but my defender presses up on me to go over the top of the pick I end up in some kind of protect dribble that won't allow me to go around the pick properly, I have to move away from the defender to get out of that dribble protection deal then the pick is useless. Again if Live is going to hang it's hat on giving the user simple intuitive controls then do it, but don't do this hodge-podge of user request cpu approval controls we have now!

# 800 lasthour @ 11/25/09 05:24 PM

No manual backdowns. My controlled player now tries to backdown at the 3 pointline sometimes. Since the patch my player is not in total control anymore.

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