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NHL 10 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (360 & PS3)

06:45 AM - August 20, 2009 by VeryEvilAsh

The NHL 10 demo is available for the Xbox 360. Post your impressions here. The PS3 demo will be available next week.

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# 561 IBYCFOTA @ 09/09/09 03:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Fierce Robot


	The problem with scrolling occurs, I think, because it tries to give you control of players that are closest to the puck. The problem that broke out for me was that the cpu had the puck high above the right face off dot and was wheeling around to face the net. I could see what it was going to do because I could see its team mate waiting right on the side of my own net. I tried to scroll to the defender guarding the net (right next to the cpu forward) but when I scrolled it flipped between 3 of my guys who were closest to the puck carrier, when he decided to wire the pass it moved so fast that I just couldn't make the adjustments and in the speed of a one timer it was all said and done. It was kind of like my defender was drafted from a gentleman's league where his gentle disposition equipped him with fine manners. I could imagine my defender saying 'hello old man, lovely day for some sandwhiches isn't it? Oh, you want to take it to my goalie, good show. I do say the blades on your skates are most fetching', and the guy he was defending was that big black bearded thug from the movie Youngblood (the one who gives Patrick Swayze a severe concussion) and after he scores he turns to my gentleman defender and blows a kiss through smahed teeth and then spits on my guys jersey. After this happened I deliberately took control of my forwards on defense and kept handing the puck back to the cpu to see how often my ai defense would allow the cpu to have the crease. My ai defenders sometimes hit and shoved the cpu and other times they just stayed back. It seemed kind of random when they defended and helped the goalie and when they sat back. I don't think it has anything to do with the player tendencies of the particular defender...say Kronwall as opposed to Lidstrom...I dunno it just seemed a bit random when a defender aggressively and pro actively engaged the opposition or whether they were oblivious to the cpu presence. Also, there was no effort from my ai defender to try and block the pass comming in for the one timer, but the cpu defense does this well.

You seem to be unaware of this so I'll throw it out there. If you hold the switch player button it will switch to the defender furthest away from the puck. This will pretty much always give you control of one of your defenseman making it easy to clear the front of your net when needed. That should fix your problems for the most part.

# 562 18 eighty 5 @ 09/09/09 03:18 AM

Didn't know that IBY, thanks, will try it.

# 563 18 eighty 5 @ 09/09/09 03:27 AM

IBY, thankyou, it works fine...never knew about it, cheers.

# 564 sroz39 @ 09/09/09 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by X-_-Facter45


	this game is sooooo bad its the same as last year not different no changes in gameplay or graphics im not buying it as well as u shouldnt either get nba live 10 or fifa 10 they have improved dont no how fifa has but they did some how, how do u get better then 09

This is the most ridiculous post in here, at least lately. First of all, why would getting Live or FIFA have any influence on getting NHL? They're not the same sport

Secondly, FIFA is said to have the same sort of improvements as NHL this year, mainly tweaking the gameplay and a few much needed gameplay enhancements i.e. pinning. Thirdly, Live has had nowhere to go but up so comparing the level of improvement between NHL and Live doesn't apply because they are at much different stages in their cycles.

At least say something like "get NHL 2K10. The presentation is so sick!". Lol.

# 565 IBYCFOTA @ 09/10/09 04:53 AM

Just ignore him. I mean, only an idiot would take a post like that seriously.

Anyways, it's less than a week away from release and I'm still playing the demo on a daily basis. In fact I'm playing it more than any other game I have, so I have to give a lot of credit to EA. The demo has more replayablity than most full games, sadly enough.

The only thing that needs fixing is the computer offense in my zone. The way they can make tic tac toe passes seems even worse than last year. The frustrating thing is not only their pass speed and accuracy, but they can successfully pass through defenders with ease. Trying to poke check them when they have possession in the offensive zone is also practically useless. I can count on one hand how many times I've successfully poke checked the computer when they're dipsy doodling around in the offensive zone. The computer has this magnetic ability to protect the puck without using the protect puck feature or the skill stick, it's mind boggling and impossible to defend against. You pretty much have to just let them cycle around and get some point shots off to have any chance at getting the puck back.

This could all be fixable with sliders, and even if it isn't it's far from a dealbreaker since I primarily play online, but I do enjoy the offline game modes as well so hopefully the dominant offensive cycling game of the computer can be toned down a bit. I wouldn't mind as much but whenever I try to make those risky passes that they routinely make they get deflected or intercepted.

Anyways, that's really the only concern I have about the game and it's fairly minor, so kudos to EA.

# 566 onlybygrace @ 09/10/09 05:11 AM

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Originally Posted by IBYCFOTA


	Just ignore him. I mean, only an idiot would take a post like that seriously. Anyways, it's less than a week away from release and I'm still playing the demo on a daily basis. In fact I'm playing it more than any other game I have, so I have to give a lot of credit to EA. The demo has more replayablity than most full games, sadly enough. The only thing that needs fixing is the computer offense in my zone. The way they can make tic tac toe passes seems even worse than last year. The frustrating thing is not only their pass speed and accuracy, but they can successfully pass through defenders with ease. Trying to poke check them when they have possession in the offensive zone is also practically useless. I can count on one hand how many times I've successfully poke checked the computer when they're dipsy doodling around in the offensive zone. The computer has this magnetic ability to protect the puck without using the protect puck feature or the skill stick, it's mind boggling and impossible to defend against. You pretty much have to just let them cycle around and get some point shots off to have any chance at getting the puck back. This could all be fixable with sliders, and even if it isn't it's far from a dealbreaker since I primarily play online, but I do enjoy the offline game modes as well so hopefully the dominant offensive cycling game of the computer can be toned down a bit. I wouldn't mind as much but whenever I try to make those risky passes that they routinely make they get deflected or intercepted. Anyways, that's really the only concern I have about the game and it's fairly minor, so kudos to EA.

I'd be curious to see you play D...I don't have that problem at all.

I'm not trying to be a dick either...

what method do you use to defend???

# 567 onlybygrace @ 09/10/09 05:31 AM

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Originally Posted by RealmK


	I don't either but I've seen enough of these types of complaints the last year or so that I just let em go at this point and chalk it up to user error, because when you debate it, the comeback logic conspiracy theorists come out in droves.

Good point...

*scurries off to bed*

# 568 MizzouRah @ 09/10/09 11:45 AM

I played the demo quite a bit last night and I'm really fiending for MORE!!!

They really did the board play right and it just adds so much to the game...

This will be my first time in gaming history I head up to my local gamestop at midnight to pick it up - assuming when I call them today they are doing a midnight release next week. I'm also going to take off next Tuesday to play it all day long.

# 569 Qb @ 09/10/09 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by MizzouRah


	I played the demo quite a bit last night and I'm really fiending for MORE!!! They really did the board play right and it just adds so much to the game... This will be my first time in gaming history I head up to my local gamestop at midnight to pick it up - assuming when I call them today they are doing a midnight release next week. I'm also going to take off next Tuesday to play it all day long.

I'm still deciding on midnight release. I have to get up at 6am, so it's really pushing it, not to mention if I do get it, I'll want to stay up even later to play it. I can't take Tuesday off, but I am taking Wednesday, so that will have to do...

# 570 IBYCFOTA @ 09/10/09 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by onlybygrace


	I'd be curious to see you play D...I don't have that problem at all. I'm not trying to be a dick either... what method do you use to defend???

Please. I'm a good versus player and have a ton of experience playing defense for top teams in the EASHL. I know when the problem is me and when the game is playing unfairly. How can you honestly not say that the tic tac toe passing in the offensive zone by the computer isn't absurdly unrealistic? If you haven't experienced this you either haven't played the demo enough or you're playing on pro. FWIW, it's not really an issue in BAP for whatever reason, but it definitely exists in BFTC.

As for what methods I use to defend - I've tried everything. Getting directly in passing lanes doesn't work. Poke checking the puck carrier doesn't work, and the pass block button is practically useless for defending the cycle by the computer.

I'd like to hear what brilliant way you have of defending against it though, since you appear to be amazing at the game.

# 571 muzion @ 09/10/09 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkFudge


	People, maybe Im in the minority here but, I am a bit underwhelmed at the improvements made in NHL 10. I just got done playing the demo a few times now over and over and cant help but to think that certain additions were not implemented as well as I expected them to be: -The new puck physics are almost identical to last year....the puck doesnt flutter or flip or carom realistically especially when deflecting off of things. And when it does, it seems almost unnaturally forced to appear as if improvements were made. EA seen how NHL 2K9 set the bar for realistic puck physics, I dont know why they couldnt meet or exceed their efforts last year. - The new board play seems more like an addon module then a seamless infusion into the gameplay. And where is all the riding and checking up into the boards and roughhousing. I was expecting to see improved ragdoll effects of bodies colliding and interacting with each other on checks and hits into the boards. I just see 2 players suction into each other and free the puck up whenever this new board play is enacted. maybe thats the problem...it feels enacted rather than just part of the gameplay -The after the whistle scrummages are simplistic acts of robotic 3 stooges scenes with players artificially 'CLUNKing' and 'POWing' each other rather than having fluid shoves and pushes. They seemed added on and canned just for effect. It should flow more realistically. It looks a bit corny.....Most real life scrummages occur when a player gets too close to a Goalie after a whistle, then the team rallies around to protect him...I dont see this (yet?). -Face Off battles still are overly simplistic, lack a fight and struggle to gain possession and fall far short of the realism that NHL 2K9 implemented last year. Im sorry if this sounds negative but I really feel a bit let down that the gameplay feels almost identical to last year with the feeling of added gameplay modules rather than a more refined overall gameplay experience that built upon last years engine. The positive thing is that the gameplay last year was good....I just was hoping that NHL 10 would show me more....at this point the demo didnt deliver as much as I expected.

I took out some of your post but that's exactly how I feel about the demo, and I'm surprised after playing it more than 20 times hardly nobody seems to have picked up on its many faults.

lol at board play. Not once have I seen it occur more than once in a sequence... No sustained pressure. I played games with only the 3rd and 4th lines to see if things would change but they didn't. SMH at the CPU AI streaking down the wing, and my controlled player lining him up, but instead of checking him into the boards as I'd do last year, I press Y and the 2 players engage in a forced animation where there's a ''suction into each other''. So unrealistic. Oh and when you kick the puck with your skate it goes way too far, hence part of the reason why there's no sustained pressure.

Hardcore mode would have been great if you didn't have to load up your pass when attempting one. What a big mistake they made not making it pressure sensitive. Another issue I have is my AI teammates simply getting out of the way sometimes when I try to get it out the zone.

We're in 2010 and faceoffs in ball hockey are still more evolved... Ridiculous.

There is more randomness in terms of puck physics and when it deflects, but it doesn't feel natural. The puck always seems to go to a teammate or an opponent on hardcore mode. If the puck would, as in real life, deflect into the corners more often, there'd be more play along the boards, more battles, the physical aspect of the game would be better reflected, thus we'd have a more organic representation of hockey.

# 572 IBYCFOTA @ 09/10/09 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by RealmK


	Or maybe he, like myself don't let the cpu do tic tac passing all day long by being solid positionally. Take the passing lanes away it forces the cpu to stick to the outside where its generally easy to take a forward and use whatever defensive tool is most suited to the situation, be it a stick lift, poke, board play, or even the good ol trusty check into the glass. The only time I notice the CPU going nuts with passing in my offensive end is when I chase, which is bad defense in the first place.

How many times do I have mention that I position myself DIRECTLY in the passing lane and they still manage to get passes through?

Or again, you two could just be amazing at playing against the computer and have mastered the counter-strategies necessary to stop the computer from their flawless cycle game. In which case, congratulations!

# 573 MizzouRah @ 09/10/09 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Qb


	I'm still deciding on midnight release. I have to get up at 6am, so it's really pushing it, not to mention if I do get it, I'll want to stay up even later to play it. I can't take Tuesday off, but I am taking Wednesday, so that will have to do...

Well, my gamestop said as far as they know, no midnight release.

I'll be there at 10am though and ready to spend my day playing... maybe I'll read some thoughts from you at 12:30am?

# 574 onlybygrace @ 09/10/09 03:00 PM

Welp...Realm.

Apparently we're amazing.

I'll take that. Thanks IBYCFOTA!!!

# 575 Aggies7 @ 09/13/09 03:48 AM

Well just got done play demo for first time. Overall still a great game. I like the addition. Pretty sure I will be buying this.

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