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# 681 roadman @ 05/30/09 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by J_FRANK


	Pretty crazy thread, here's my take. It's a shame there is only one Pro Football game. 2004 was a great year that brought good competition between 2k & Madden. Ea secured the license and 2K was no more. Madden in my eyes has not replaced that empty void the 2k gamers feel. All-Pro Football 2k8 was good but lacked features and was ultimately missing a lot of things. Madden 2010 from what I've seen has not really impressed me. The #1 thing that bothers me are the animations. The way players move ( everyone) just doesn't seem rite to me. It's cool that the Devs interact with the forums, 2k devs are no where to be found...... So that's a + to EA. Madden has had about 4 years now to perfect their engine & they still have not achieved it. My last post in this thread, here's hoping that 2k can get the license back to make football games and Ea gets the license back to make baseball games so us as the consumer can have options in games that we prefer. Ian your never going to convince 2k gamers........... peace

You are right, this is a pretty crazy thread with a ton of optimism for the future.

# 682 WFColonel56 @ 05/30/09 11:26 PM

Its funny how people say players still turn on a dime when Ian did a blog on this very subject.....He said that THEY MADE THE TURN WIDER IF THE PLAYER IS HOLDING THE SPRNT BUTTON..... We dont know that the player was holding sprint or not so to say that momentem hasnt changed is just stupid

# 683 Moegames @ 05/30/09 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by celg35


	here we go again!!!!. you would think by adding these things they are stepping it up...............c'mon people lay off EA . lets wait till after E3 to make a final decision about madden

I totally agree...atleast they are addressing the badly needed presentation...i was hyped by the cut scenes..it'll bring the game to life much more along with the other presentation stuff they are doing

# 684 Valdarez @ 05/31/09 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by J_FRANK


	It's cool that the Devs interact with the forums, 2k devs are no where to be found...... So that's a + to EA.

Agreed. I was really looking forward to reading Ian's explanation of what made it, what didn't, and why. He really got a lot of respect in my eyes when he said he was going to write it up, but then immediately after when the first real game play comes out, he decides to take a break. I know E3 is this week, I think EA would have been better served if he had said he needed to focus on E3 this week (which was understandable, it's crazy there right?) instead of saying he was taking a break from the forums due to the negative feedback. The mods here at OS are pretty good at shutting down the guys that just harrass / take things off topic. When there's uncertaninty, or questions regarding the game, that's when you need your representative. Hyping the game by revealing features early is great, but being there to explain why it doesn't meet fan's expectations is even more important.

# 685 Bgamer90 @ 05/31/09 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by PlyrzNumber1


	This attitude/culture from the mods has got to stop. I haven't seen a single personal attack at Ian or the dev team. I see a lot of people underwhelmed with what they saw on the video, that's it. Freely being able to comment on impressions of the video, and relating that to previous frustrations of the game (in the specific games forum) seems very relevant to me. Why this would be shot down, locked, or people being red-carded (as you put it) is just a ridiculous and immature idea, imo.

There's a difference between constructive criticism and mindless bashing.

If you haven't seen at least one post here that was nothing but typical troll bash, then I want to know what type of OS filter you have because I would really like to have it too lol.

# 686 MUSS @ 05/31/09 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by WFColonel56


	Its funny how people say players still turn on a dime when Ian did a blog on this very subject.....He said that THEY MADE THE TURN WIDER IF THE PLAYER IS HOLDING THE SPRNT BUTTON..... We dont know that the player was holding sprint or not so to say that momentem hasnt changed is just stupid

Holding sprint should not matter at all. Players never move or turn like that period. It doesnt matter if they are sprinting or not. A person still needs to turn around, there was not turning around or planting. It should obviously be more prevalent when sprinting, but there should be momentum regardless.

Locomotion for Madden has been straight wack. I wish it hasnt been, I really do. But it has been. That video shows that it will continue. So they changed the game from the outside first. Like doing plastic surgery before fixing broken bones. Everything in gameplay has to do with how the players move. Once thats right, then move on to all the nice nuances.

# 687 Valdarez @ 05/31/09 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by WFColonel56


	Its funny how people say players still turn on a dime when Ian did a blog on this very subject.....He said that THEY MADE THE TURN WIDER IF THE PLAYER IS HOLDING THE SPRNT BUTTON..... We dont know that the player was holding sprint or not so to say that momentem hasnt changed is just stupid

There have been instant turns in nearly every game play video released to date of Madden '10. This does not appear to be fixed, and Ian has already stated that locomotion (movement/momentum) will not be addressed in Madden 10 (though they are trying to do what they can to fix various momentum related bugs/issues within the confines of the existing framework).

# 688 roadman @ 05/31/09 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by PlyrzNumber1


	Yes. And Ian has to find a way to separate his personal life from his work life. He simply shouldn't be taking criticism directed at the game on a personal level.

Easier said then done, especially when you have people saying that 09 isn't anything different than 10, which is the furthest from the truth. I always wonder when people say that how long did they have the game? Week, month at the most? How can a person rent a game for a week and determine that the next game with one 2 minute edited non-enabled pro-tak game play video isn't better than the last game.

Boggles my mind.

Put yourself in Ian's shoes. If people started telling you your product is the same product as last years, and you know those people haven't put that product to use because it's 2.5 months away from being released, it has to take it's toll at some time.

I don't think a breather away is a bad thing at all.

Let the judge and jury decide after August 14th.

# 689 roadman @ 05/31/09 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by PlyrzNumber1


	This attitude/culture from the mods has got to stop. I haven't seen a single personal attack at Ian or the dev team. I see a lot of people underwhelmed with what they saw on the video, that's it. Freely being able to comment on impressions of the video, and relating that to previous frustrations of the game (in the specific games forum) seems very relevant to me. Why this would be shot down, locked, or people being red-carded (as you put it) is just a ridiculous and immature idea, imo.

The basher's were bashing people that said kind things regarding the video. It's against forum rules for personal attacks.

Most forums that I frequent have the same rule.

# 690 ken986 @ 05/31/09 01:10 AM

Well, after watching this twice, I must say that I am not too impressed.

For one, they didn't show the kickoff return which may be a sign that they didn't change the horrid blocking from last year.

Two, the graphics pretty much looks the same. There are just some new animations.

Three, running looks easier this time around. Did y'all see the open holes?

Four, the presentations don't mean squat if the game is bad. We skip 'em anyway.

C'mom guys... don't get hype over crap.

# 691 kjcheezhead @ 05/31/09 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by roadman


	Easier said then done, especially when you have people saying that 09 isn't anything different than 10, which is the furthest from the truth. I always wonder when people say that how long did they have the game? Week, month at the most? How can a person rent a game for a week and determine that the next game with one 2 minute edited non-enabled pro-tak game play video isn't better than the last game.

I have been a madden fanboy for a long time on the ps2. I tried 08 on the ps3, really bad, went back to ps2. Madden 09 came out and I thought it would be better than ps2. Well, I played that game till about a month ago the whole time my friends pointing out huge glitches but I wanted a good NFL game so I made excuses and passed off the super d awareness, the fact ratings had no effect and all the other problems until I finally couldn't even buy my own lies. I realized EAs sold me junk 2 years in a row. Now I get my first glimpse of Madden 10 gameplay-with pro-tak(the feature thats gonna take Madden 10 to the next level) turned off.

With that turned off, I would expect the gameplay to be much similar to 09 than your admitting and imo it was. Now Ian needs to put himself in our shoes. He knows the majority here really disliked 08 and 09. What did he expect when he shows us jostling, pro-tak, procedural awareness and other solid improvements and then the vid has none of that?

Sure the cut scenes were cool, but all Im seeing at that moment in my opinion is lipstick on a pig if the gameplay is no different.

# 692 roadman @ 05/31/09 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by kjcheezhead


	I have been a madden fanboy for a long time on the ps2. I tried 08 on the ps3, really bad, went back to ps2. Madden 09 came out and I thought it would be better than ps2. Well, I played that game till about a month ago the whole time my friends pointing out huge glitches but I wanted a good NFL game so I made excuses and passed off the super d awareness, the fact ratings had no effect and all the other problems until I finally couldn't even buy my own lies. I realized EAs sold me junk 2 years in a row. Now I get my first glimpse of Madden 10 gameplay-with pro-tak(the feature thats gonna take Madden 10 to the next level) turned off. With that turned off, I would expect the gameplay to be much similar to 09 than your admitting and imo it was. Now Ian needs to put himself in our shoes. He knows the majority here really disliked 08 and 09. What did he expect when he shows us jostling, pro-tak, procedural awareness and other solid improvements and then the vid has none of that? Sure the cut scenes were cool, but all Im seeing at that moment in my opinion is lipstick on a pig if the gameplay is no different.

I've seen all those that you listed in other videos except for the WR/CB interaction. I can't explain why it wasn't in there, either.

# 693 Valdarez @ 05/31/09 02:01 AM

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Originally Posted by kjcheezhead


	Sure the cut scenes were cool, but all Im seeing at that moment in my opinion is lipstick on a pig if the gameplay is no different.

I'm not fan of the last 4 years of Madden, but even I can see the gameplay is better. It's not there yet, it's going to take momentum/physics (locomotion) and routed based passing to take madden to the next level of gaming for me. But many of the changes Ian outlined are there. There's better OLine blocking / interaction, and a decent pocket. There's better coverage (more realistic though it still suffers from near instant turns with instant speed, taking us back to the momentum/physics problem). Presentation is better which is a key factor to immersion making the game more realistic while drawing the player into the game (though Hammond's commentary is horrible).

I think the problem right now is that every time I see a positive, something that makes me say yeah, they got it right, there's a huge negative right there a long with it. The EA team is stoked about the release because they know it's a better game, and the best they have put out in a long time (at least half a decade), but as a consumer, it's still not there for me. (if you look at my posting history you can find my fairly extensive good, bad, and ugly breakdown of the video to find out why).

Long story short, a one year cycle was not long enough to correct all of the design decision sins of the past. I think it's going to take another 2 years to address the momentum/physic, route based passing, and animations/rendering (frames/missing animations). And that's only 'if' EA steps up and admits they have a problem with their animation/rendering engine and makes it a goal to provide a better one. Thus far we have no indicatiion they are willing to do so.

# 694 shift9k @ 05/31/09 02:53 AM

Not bashing EA here but when is their license due?

# 695 XtremeDunkz @ 05/31/09 03:11 AM

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Originally Posted by shift9k


	Not bashing EA here but when is their license due?

2013

# 696 Vikes1 @ 05/31/09 04:34 AM

Imo...this IGN video was the first sort of misstep in the hyping of Madden '10'.

I mean, pretty much everything up to this point had been going very well. The blogs for the most part were very informative, and well put together. The screen shots have looked great. And even the screens have had a lot of info in them. Showing several upgrades. [refs, equipment, etc..] And lots of good back and forth with Ian as well for the last several weeks. And with the expectations of the first real gameplay vid having most of us at the edge of our seats....we get this chopped up video, and Tom Hammond sounding worse than ever.

I don't know...maybe the expectations of the first gameplay video were so high, almost anything shown would have been a slight/big letdown. And imo...the video from IGN just wasn't very good.

I'll just speak for myself by saying...I kinda got used to most everything from the blogs, to the screens, and conversations with Ian making M10 seem unreal good. And then along came this kinda imo, crappy vid from IGN. Kind of let some of the air outta my balloon. But I have really no doubts that M10 will be a much improved game over '09'. In the end...thats all I really expect.

# 697 Saijahn @ 05/31/09 08:08 AM

Commentary is still horrible, sounds so robotic, the sideline scene with romo on the phone makes me think they took the presentation side of things from NFL 2K5, and HOPEFULLY added a half-time show, post game wrap up, and week wrap up's in franchise.

but if the superbowl celebration is still the same thing, that will be a buzzkill

# 698 Sardine117 @ 05/31/09 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Saijahn


	Commentary is still horrible, sounds so robotic, the sideline scene with romo on the phone makes me think they took the presentation side of things from NFL 2K5, and HOPEFULLY added a half-time show, post game wrap up, and week wrap up's in franchise. but if the superbowl celebration is still the same thing, that will be a buzzkill

The weekly wrap-up show is in the game. And you're so right about the super bowl post game scene. There should be a celebration at the end of each game showing players and coaches shaking hands, players celebrating together after a big win. Not just 5 highlights from the game.

# 699 Goffs @ 05/31/09 10:27 AM

what build is this? cuz its nothing like the youtube vids that Ian provides...where are the great rout running animations?

# 700 Exonerated @ 05/31/09 10:49 AM

Just because a person thinks they are right, doesn't mean they are. This is evident in this thread.

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