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# 661 Eddie1967 @ 05/30/09 04:12 PM
Looks good, love the way Romo moves and throws like himself. The crowd seems better, and I really liked the pile on and the refs pulling people away after the fumble. Not sure I will buy this game, but so far it seems improved from last year.
 
# 662 St3fN_sTrApS @ 05/30/09 04:17 PM
The game looks amazing! I'm really pumped for it. Hurry up August 14, I'm getting impatient ha ha. Good job Ian and co.
 
# 663 AtlantaFalconFan @ 05/30/09 04:34 PM
i acculyy am impressed looks good.
 
# 664 AlexBrady @ 05/30/09 04:39 PM
There isn't nearly enough footage to make a proper evaluation.
 
# 665 adembroski @ 05/30/09 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by NavigatorD83
The Refs Are pointing in the right direction on the fumble recovery. Pay attention
Yeah, I had someone message me directly about that. I went back and checked the footage and the refs pointing the right way. Where are they getting this?
 
# 666 Superman_TR @ 05/30/09 05:16 PM
Ummmmm you guys who are getting excited about the coin toss and the QB talkin on the phone do realize that all of that was in NFL 2k5 right? Madden's presentation is so far behind that it really makes me wonder how much farther along the 2k series would be if it never had to stop production...Oh well, I can only wonder. EA really hasn't pushed the envelope at all. Shoot, what makes it all the more farcical is that visual concepts found a way to put these things on their game on the XBOX. They haven't even had the oppurtunity to make NFL football games on this generation of videogame consoles! Step it up EA
 
# 667 droopizzle34 @ 05/30/09 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by SomeStrangeSin
you are correct. the engine is not working, the animation engine is not working,the locomotion is not working,the graphics engine is not working, the player model/field height weight ratio is not working. the player models are not working.

the only thing that could save madden is to start from scratch ea needs to get this through there head. there going to have to skip a year or even two years to develope a new football game.
as far as i am concerned the developers fan interaction has done nothing but add accesories and fluff to the game when the mechanics are still broken
......WOW. No wonder Ian left.A whole thread full of EA bashing. where's TJ when you need him???
 
# 668 AlexBrady @ 05/30/09 08:48 PM
TJ will be handing out alot of red cards in the future.
 
# 669 roadman @ 05/30/09 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Superman_TR
Ummmmm you guys who are getting excited about the coin toss and the QB talkin on the phone do realize that all of that was in NFL 2k5 right? Madden's presentation is so far behind that it really makes me wonder how much farther along the 2k series would be if it never had to stop production...Oh well, I can only wonder. EA really hasn't pushed the envelope at all. Shoot, what makes it all the more farcical is that visual concepts found a way to put these things on their game on the XBOX. They haven't even had the oppurtunity to make NFL football games on this generation of videogame consoles! Step it up EA
Interesting. That is a new sharp angle we haven't heard at OS before.

end/sarcasm

People have been complaining for 4 or 5 yrs that presentation was needed big time for Madden. Now, Ian and company have heard the complaints, and now all they here was , this was in 2k5 before.

Madden can't win.

Just be happy it's in now, nobody can change history.
 
# 670 roadman @ 05/30/09 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by boydra
I was noticing the same thing. This game does not appear much different in those areas except for more cutscenes and the fight for every yard concept with the fumble meter. Animations are still problematic (glitchy) even with this so called pro tak technology added.
There is a slight problem with your last sentence. I take it you didn't happen to have an opportunity to read some of the thread.

Ian stated this footage is 2 weeks old and Pro Tak was not enabled for this game play.
 
# 671 Colladie @ 05/30/09 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by SomeStrangeSin
you are correct. the engine is not working, the animation engine is not working,the locomotion is not working,the graphics engine is not working, the player model/field height weight ratio is not working. the player models are not working.

the only thing that could save madden is to start from scratch ea needs to get this through there head. there going to have to skip a year or even two years to develope a new football game.
as far as i am concerned the developers fan interaction has done nothing but add accesories and fluff to the game when the mechanics are still broken
Could you at least back some of your complaints with example. All the engines that you mention are working as they are suppose to, its just the lack of proper locomotion that makes it seem unorganic.
 
# 672 marcoyk @ 05/30/09 10:10 PM
wow, we beg for presentation for years and when we get it we insult the ea team for giving it to us. sweeeet
 
# 673 WFColonel56 @ 05/30/09 10:14 PM
Wowwwwwwww.......Yep Im not going to by madden now becuz of 1 run play and 3 pass plays...... (sarcasm)

What is funny to me is that some people are talking about the game having bad gameplay........You cant see some of the gameplay you have to feel some of it out through the controller. That is soo funny to me.

-You people wanted 3-4 OLBs leaning over....Guess what. Ian gave it to you
-You wanted ratings to matter more. Guess what Donny gave it to you by the WR blowing past a LB

And as well im sure most of you guys saw the thing on Spike tv.....That was damn good LOOKING gameplay to me. Did any of you see that PUNT, it looked great and it looked like the punters weight transfered with the punt.

All im saying is how can you judge a game off of 4 plays.......Man If I was Ian I wouldnt come back either....

Im not an EA *** kisser but this is ******* crazy.....It has been 1 year and you want madden to do a 180 spin.....GET REAL........
 
# 674 icomb1ne @ 05/30/09 10:19 PM
I really think if Madden to be as realistic as we want it to be, the thing it needs is a complete makeover in the locomotion department. After watching the video, the running animations are STILL an eyesore for me even though they have made some tweaks to. But more importantly players need to move around with some weight. Right now they are turning on a dime which is not working if Madden desires to be realistic. Watching the video, M10 looked a lot like M09 because the players move exactly like they did last year.

It's nice that they improved the blocking, tackling, throwing, and WR/DB animations, but IMO bad player physics negates a lot of that simply by the fact that you will see a catch once a play, you see a throw once a play, you see a tackle once a play, and of course you see at least 5+ blocks a play but every player is moving around for the entire play! Until they improve player movement, Madden will never break away from the image of being unrealistic that past Maddens have unfortunately carried.

Other notes are that I think that the OL/DL improvements are being hampered by poor AI. There always seems to be a dude wondering aimlessly and the DEs engage too early therefore making the pocket HUGE. And I really have not noticed the game being slower than last years although Ian says that is had by 5%-10%. Maybe my expectations were too high but since we've been able to see actual gameplay, I must say that I am a bit disappointed. And yes I know its an early build, but seriously, how much are you expecting it to change come August. What we are seeing right now is probably very close to what we are getting.
 
# 675 whoady4shoady @ 05/30/09 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by marcoyk
wow, we beg for presentation for years and when we get it we insult the ea team for giving it to us. sweeeet
What good is presentation when the gameplay still looks like this


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjFXnJc0Q0U
 
# 676 Bgamer90 @ 05/30/09 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Superman_TR
Ummmmm you guys who are getting excited about the coin toss and the QB talkin on the phone do realize that all of that was in NFL 2k5 right? Madden's presentation is so far behind that it really makes me wonder how much farther along the 2k series would be if it never had to stop production...Oh well, I can only wonder. EA really hasn't pushed the envelope at all. Shoot, what makes it all the more farcical is that visual concepts found a way to put these things on their game on the XBOX. They haven't even had the oppurtunity to make NFL football games on this generation of videogame consoles! Step it up EA
lol... so let me get this straight. After all the years that madden this gen got dissed for it not having presentation for the coin toss, players training on sidelines etc., the same ones are dissing it now just because 2k5 had it??

Unreal... freakin' unreal...



Quote:
Originally Posted by SomeStrangeSin
you are correct. the engine is not working, the animation engine is not working,the locomotion is not working,the graphics engine is not working, the player model/field height weight ratio is not working. the player models are not working.

the only thing that could save madden is to start from scratch ea needs to get this through there head. there going to have to skip a year or even two years to develope a new football game.
as far as i am concerned the developers fan interaction has done nothing but add accesories and fluff to the game when the mechanics are still broken
lol... if all those "engines" were 100% broken we would have a game that is nothing but a black screen.

Man... you are ridiculous. Is there problems that need to be fixed? Yeah. But to say that everything about the game is completely broken is just flippin' crazy and takes the typical madden bashing to a whole new level.

Quote:
Originally Posted by roadman

People have been complaining for 4 or 5 yrs that presentation was needed big time for Madden. Now, Ian and company have heard the complaints, and now all they here was , this was in 2k5 before.

Madden can't win.
Exactly.

No matter what madden does to improve from here on out, the bashing will still be there. Even if Madden 10+ are great football games, the bashing will still continue, and it's obvious since the bashing that's going on now is so stupid and is basically nothing but a big overexaggeration in just about all cases.
 
# 677 Bgamer90 @ 05/30/09 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by icomb1ne
I really think if Madden to be as realistic as we want it to be, the thing it needs is a complete makeover in the locomotion department.
Yeah I agree. Locomotion needs to be worked on. Players still turn on a dime...

Quote:
And yes I know its an early build, but seriously, how much are you expecting it to change come August. What we are seeing right now is probably very close to what we are getting.
But the thing is though that that vid had a lot of stuff cut from it so we didn't see everything. Also, the game's difficulty setting is on pro, and as stated by Ian, the difficulty settings (rookie/pro vs. all-pro/all-madden) will be VERY different in play. Also, this is the new head dev team's first year this gen with madden. We can't base how much can be done from here until the game goes gold on how in it was at the same time period for previous years since there's different people in the head making the decisions.

I can't wait for more recent vids to come. I'm hoping we could somehow get an all-pro/all-madden vid of the game...
 
# 678 roadman @ 05/30/09 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by whoady4shoady
What good is presentation when the gameplay still looks like this


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjFXnJc0Q0U
I'll give you a better answer after Aug. 14th when I actually play it for hours instead of giving a preliminary critical eye to the game 2.5 months before it comes out.

All I care abut is if game play is improved, and presentation has vastly improved since 09.
 
# 679 J_FRANK @ 05/30/09 10:48 PM
Pretty crazy thread, here's my take.


It's a shame there is only one Pro Football game. 2004 was a great year that brought good competition between 2k & Madden.
Ea secured the license and 2K was no more. Madden in my eyes has not replaced that empty void the 2k gamers feel.

All-Pro Football 2k8 was good but lacked features and was ultimately missing a lot of things.

Madden 2010 from what I've seen has not really impressed me. The #1 thing that bothers me are the animations. The way players move ( everyone) just doesn't seem rite to me.

It's cool that the Devs interact with the forums, 2k devs are no where to be found...... So that's a + to EA.

Madden has had about 4 years now to perfect their engine & they still have not achieved it.

My last post in this thread, here's hoping that 2k can get the license back to make football games and Ea gets the license back to make baseball games so us as the consumer can have options in games that we prefer.


Ian your never going to convince 2k gamers...........

peace
 
# 680 olemish @ 05/30/09 10:54 PM
After watching the video about 30 times, here's my conclusion.
1. The graphics are great
2. The snickers advertisement has to go.
3. Hammond sucks but would be much better if he would be quiet during the entire pregame and replace that with stadium noise, music ect and just let him do play by play. Would also be alot better if he would call players by name... i know it can be done.
4. Fans aren't always jumping around and dancing in the stands... save that for when a touchdown or turnover happens.
5. Pressure needs to get there quicker, small graphics issues, turning on a dime, procedural awareness and synchronization problems which all of these I expect to be fixed before the game ships so no problem there really.
6. Fans look too much alike... just lazy there.

more when I think of them
 


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