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Madden NFL 10 Gameplay Video: Eagles @ Cowboys (IGN)

08:17 PM - May 28, 2009 by eyeknowzz

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# 581 bogart69 @ 05/29/09 03:29 PM

I agree I hope there is a zoom camera angle. I don't care if it customizable or not, just closer.

I agree I like my camera a little closer ( tough on my old eyes ). But isnt this one of the reasons why players always roll out ? One, to avoid the rush and the non existent pocket and secondly, to be able to get a better view of your receiver along the sidelines..

# 582 LBzrule @ 05/29/09 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by T9R


	Granted this is just one isolated example, but in the real still shot the pocket is roughly the width of hash marks, maybe a little wider. In Madden, the pocket is almost twice the width of the hash marks and probably contributes to the problem of it taking too long to set up

Let me also piggyback on this. Moegames it's not simply the size. The bigger problem is the speed. The DE's engage way to early. They don't run an arc. It's more like the OT determines where they are going to be able to go. This might partly have to do with the plays that are called. But it might not.

# 583 Teddy_Long @ 05/29/09 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by bogart69


	How can you not be optimistic about Madden 10 with all the changes we have seen so far ? Even the 2K5 fans are seeing some positives. I feel for Ian and his team at times. It is impossible to please everyone. So many complaints even though there are so many positives.. It is clear they are trying their best to make the best possible game and that they are taking our criticisms to heart. As long as they improve the game and make it more of a sim rather than a quirky arcade game I will be more than happy...

i love 2k5 but ian is winning me over with these improvements--presentation, signature throwing animations, etc, etc..... i also agree that ian has a hard job. it's going to be hard to please everyone but i believe more than not will appreciate his desire to improve madden.

# 584 bogart69 @ 05/29/09 04:12 PM

Regarding the photo of a real pocket as opposed to Maddens camera view.. Again, it is about being able to see the wide receivers, which you cant in the real photo... Unless they allow the gamer to move the camera as if it were attached to the QBs head I dont see how they will remedy this..

What other football game has a close up view of the pocket yet you can easily see the wide receivers ? Although I wish they could.

# 585 Vikes1 @ 05/29/09 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by GTheorenHobbes


	There really wasn't anything in the video that influenced my purchasing decision one way or the other.

This is pretty much where I'm at too.

In my opinion, it would be a mistake to really judge M10 from this chopped up video. I have a feeling that video really didn't do the game much justice. In their effort to seemingly hide elements of the games presentation...it didn't do the game any favors.

As one of the Community day guys said....Madden '10' will seem "familiar", in the way it looks and plays. And not to expect it to be 2K10. I think that was a wise and reasonable "warning" if you will. I don't necessarily mean this in a negative way. But Madden does seem to still be Madden. And the 2K football games are, well...2K. I see improvements with M10, and I know a solid effort is being made with the game. Thats all I really expect.

# 586 parrothead @ 05/29/09 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by bogart69


	Regarding the photo of a real pocket as opposed to Maddens camera view.. Again, it is about being able to see the wide receivers, which you cant in the real photo... Unless they allow the gamer to move the camera as if it were attached to the QBs head I dont see how they will remedy this.. What other football game has a close up view of the pocket yet you can easily see the wide receivers ? Although I wish they could.

On 08 for the PC the zoom camera backed up for past plays, but not to far back. For running plays it stayed zoomed in, which was really cool, the bigger bodies just add to the experience.

# 587 Captain Obvious @ 05/29/09 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by LBzrule


	Let me also piggyback on this. Moegames it's not simply the size. The bigger problem is the speed. The DE's engage way to early. They don't run an arc. It's more like the OT determines where they are going to be able to go. This might partly have to do with the plays that are called. But it might not.

cmon man you know its not. the plays dont have u choosing the line stunt like in 2k. they look to engage the tackle, then start to loop around. now ill reserve judgment for more videos cause he did say pro tak was off. remember the vid 'blocking' on ign where they were interviewing ian? he was talkin about how they used pro tak for the pocket and it was gorgeous, all it needed was to be sped up, but it brought a tear to my eye.

but i aint holding my breath either, im not gonna get high on this game like i do every year.

# 588 Thirty3 Degrees @ 05/29/09 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by madchuck


	Is it just me, or does Madden 10 have the best tackling engine ever seen in a football game. I think it looks very realistic. The Maclin tackle was awesome. There were a few shoelace tackles in the next vid. Now dont get me wrong 2K had good animations but I believe Madden 10 tops them as fr as the multi-man gang tackles. Now Backbreaker looks good and alll, but the guys diving and leaping all over the place doesnt look real. Similarly, the players seem to turn into Rag Dolls once they are hit. I am not trying to start a flame or comparison, I'm just Giving EA props. Not comparing to other games, so please dont start a flame war.

# 589 LBzrule @ 05/29/09 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Tito78


	That might be it ; none of the game play vids that we've seen have shown the pocket during clear passing downs(3rd and long)where the dline is pinning their ears back and getting after the QB. They're all in situations we're the defense has to play the run and the pass; that could be why the DEs and 3-4 OLBs are engaging so quickly.

Actually what I meant here is that with Madden's Defensive plays, the line has a pre-set rush behavior, whether it is run or pass. The defensive plays selected in these vids may have the DE's rushing somewhat inward instead of outward and up the field.

# 590 LBzrule @ 05/29/09 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain Obvious


	cmon man you know its not. the plays dont have u choosing the line stunt like in 2k. they look to engage the tackle, then start to loop around. now ill reserve judgment for more videos cause he did say pro tak was off. remember the vid 'blocking' on ign where they were interviewing ian? he was talkin about how they used pro tak for the pocket and it was gorgeous, all it needed was to be sped up, but it brought a tear to my eye. but i aint holding my breath either, im not gonna get high on this game like i do every year.

ummm what you talkin bout captain? Madden's defensive plays have the Dline in a pre-set rush behavior patter vs run or pass. I'm saying depending on the plays selected for those vids, they may be plays that call for the DE's to shoot inward. There is nothing you can do as a user except audible to the fan call. This is all I mean. See the attachment here. If the person in the vid called a play where the DE's are not moving out and up, I'm saying that maybe the reason why they engage early in these vids.

# 591 LBzrule @ 05/29/09 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Segagendude


	Nope.

It's been noted when the 3-4 OLB stance was noted.

# 592 HennessyROB @ 05/29/09 04:48 PM

I look forward to seeing more vids because this one wasn't good.

# 593 ewto16 @ 05/29/09 04:49 PM

I think the thing that bothered me the most was that Westbrook and Maclin both lose all their momentum as soon as they are engaged in a tackle. Both should still be moving forward somewhat, and they just get stopped as if their feet are pinned to the ground, then the tackle plays out.

Also that one DB just comes flying in and totally wiffs on the QB sack, which makes him look like a fool. You would think a user was controlling him or something. ;-)

# 594 bogart69 @ 05/29/09 04:58 PM

Im happy with the vid.. I think some of the critiques are justified but a bit nit picky.. Then again, if Madden is to be a true sim we have to look at everything.

I look forward to seeing a game vid when all the bugs are fixed and Pro Tak is functional...

# 595 Captain Obvious @ 05/29/09 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by AboveTheRim


	Ians Twitter Account I think I am going to take a good hiatus from the forums until after final. Regardless of my thick skin, some of this stuff is ridiculous.about 15 hours ago from web This whole fourm has taken a huge downfall the past few months. It makes me angry that Ian, Donny, Young, Fraizer, Simon and the rest of the the team take time out of there days to read a good amount of everyones posts and no one except a few people seem to respect that. Just look at everything these guys have done for us regarding some of our posts. From what I have noticed Ian, Donny, Young etc are making some of these changes right after they read some posts. Honestly I liked what I saw on the Eagles vs. Cowboys video. Some people don't want to listen, the video was edited and some aspects were 100% broken. The Gametrailers video really bleeping impressed me.

dude they get paid for what they do. and i dont mean coming on here either. they are the ones who should be appreciative for the sheep, i mean people on this forum and the other 5 million who buy their goddamn game every year regardless of how much it sucks. they have our loyalty, forcefully because we have no choice. but because there are some people that dont know how to channel their emotions and say things that hurt their feelings and question their 'hard work' into the game they go ahead and ditch us. and then the other side which will rather kill themselves first before they say anything bad about EA. god if people didnt voice their displeasure this game would go no where. i dont blame him for leaving though, im surprised he lasted this long

# 596 Southpaw29 @ 05/29/09 05:16 PM

I just watched the video again, and I noticed that the presentation is very similar to NBC's Sunday Night Football. Anybody else?

# 597 Bgamer90 @ 05/29/09 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by SmokeCapone


	Get real people, this cant be a KISS A** forum just because they're here posting and stuff like that. We're here to make sure we're getting our MONEY WORTH and if negativity is hindering them from posting here then so be it.

I doubt that's it.

What I'm thinking that sent him over is the stupid "EA SUX" type of talk that went into full force last night.

I honestly don't see why people are saying this is a "Kiss ... forum" when this forum is known for great feedback.

There's a difference between giving critical feedback and just bashing.

# 598 RogueHominid @ 05/29/09 05:22 PM

Here's what I liked:
--there are some nice added cutscenes to enhance presentation
--there are some nice tackles in there
--the graphics look pretty good

Here's what I'm critical about:
--the pocket is way too large and the rushers don't move quickly enough or take proper approaches
--the shotgun formation has Romo is 7 yards deep, which probably makes the issue of the pass rush even more of an issue.
--the running still looks a bit stiff

It's difficult to tell how much of what we saw will be in the final, but with every bit of info released we have to go on the basis of what we see and not what we hope will be changed before August.

# 599 Bgamer90 @ 05/29/09 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by IndyColts2


	Running animations look horrible. Overall game looks great although the GTtv gameplay looked a lot worse than the IGN gameplay. .

Yeah I agree.

# 600 gametime25 @ 05/29/09 05:41 PM

I agree with kehlis. Saying be a "Chompian" will get old quick. It's already annoying to me now.

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