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Madden NFL 10 Ratings: Top 10 by Position (ESPN Videogames)

07:32 PM - May 26, 2009 by iamemmittsmith

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# 221 AC IS ART @ 05/27/09 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Candyman5


	I am not saying he isnt dangerous in the open field, but giving him 94 speed and 98 ball carrier vison is just silly. He is not as fast as he was and that his BCV is higher than everyone else? There were 13 players that had higher yards then him last year and him having higher BCV then LT, Micheal Turner, AD and the other HB that are beter than him at running is stupid. Out of the top 10 HB he should be at thye highest 8 or 9.

Exactly. Westbrook gets my respect but he is not really fast. Shifty and elusive yes, a burner...no. Atleast its not as bad as 09' when he had fricken 97 speed and simply could not be tackled. And if LT is going to get a decrease after an injury plagued season, Westbrook should as well.

# 222 tonynyy @ 05/27/09 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by shotgun styles


	Tom Brady "lead his team". By that logic Kevin Faulk should be enshrined in the HOF since he caught most of those passes and won all those Superbowls. Is Kevin Faulk the greatest HB in the NFL? I don't think so. You (and the NFL) are trying to manufacture greatness out of Brady's proximity to the winning play, even though HE DID NOT MAKE IT. Sorry. Adam is the true great on those SB teams, not Brady's overrated self. And none of this even MENTIONS the awesome scoring defense and special teams on those Patriot squads. That whole team was awesome. Brady was just in the right place at the right time. No, I'm agreeing with you. Tom Brady is the best QB in the NFL. My argument is that the NFL rules are rigged so that talentless hacks like Brady can succeed by hiding their weaknesses in a QB friendly system. If Brady plays before 1978 he's pronounced dead by week 4. As it stands, his best friend is the "throw away" play that allows him to cheat his way to fake greatness. Really? Brady could run the Option or the Wildcat? Show me film of that!

Wow. Just Wow. Are you mentally challenged?

# 223 steelers1 @ 05/27/09 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by celg35


	MORE SUCCESFUL................if you mean by more super bowls , then yes, but if you mean win loss record....prob not. that debate could also go for the last ten years as well. the steelers are a great team...make no bones about it , but to compare both franchises is like comparing a corvette to a porsche.............get what i mean????

I think a team that wins the Super Bowl is better than a team that doesn't regardless of their record. As for the franchises, the Pats have been the best franchise this decade for sure, but of all time obviously the Steelers have the most SBs and such.

# 224 steelers1 @ 05/27/09 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by tonynyy


	Wow, you have the biggest anti-Patriots bias ever. Tom Brady is a greater quarterback than the Steelers have ever had (yes I know about Bradshaw, Roethlisberger and O'Donnell). He's a winner whether you like it or not, and his 50 TD season cemented him as one of the greats. In an earlier post you evaluated him based on his losses which is completely ridiculous. If I told you Big Ben deserved an 80 overall because he choked in the 2004 AFC championship game or because he didn't do anything in Super Bowl XL, would it make sense? Exactly.

I do hate me some Patriots, but...

I wasn't evaluating Brady by his losses. I was replying to a guy who was basically making excuses for Tom Brady when the Pats lost in the playoffs. Tom Brady of all QBs needs no excuses.

As for Brady being better than Bradshaw... those were different times and it was a different game back then. Bradshaw took a team from laughing stock to dynasty. Brady inherited a better team to start with. Bradshaw has 4 Super Bowl rings and will forever have a better Super Bowl record than Tom Brady. For that, I'll always argue for Bradshaw over Brady. As for Roethlisberger vs Brady, it can't be argued at this point. Ben still (hopefully) has a good 10 years left. When their careers are over they can be judged.

And I seriously hope you are kidding about Neil O'Donnell. The name alone makes any Steelers fan want to vomit.

# 225 lint @ 05/27/09 10:34 PM

Wow this post got horribly off topic....

BRADY vs MANNING

Grrrrr.

If I remember correctly the reason we have the 5yard sissy... oops I mean touching rule is because of that rainy NE vs IND game where the Pats beat the every living tar out of the Colts WR.

Anyway... I am trying to figure out why people do not think Roddy White is better than TO

How many seasons do you have to average 1250 yards and 6.5 touchdowns to be considered good?

http://www.nfl.com/players/profile?id=WHI472686

here are TO's stats from the last two years

http://www.nfl.com/players/terrellow...e?id=OWE755129

here are Brandon Marshall's

http://www.nfl.com/players/brandonma...e?id=MAR370922

Last year Roddy was the better WR

The year before Roddy had over 1200 yards with Joey "Noodle Arm" Harrington.

TO is not all that great.

# 226 Obelysk @ 05/27/09 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by steelers1


	I do hate me some Patriots, but... I wasn't evaluating Brady by his losses. I was replying to a guy who was basically making excuses for Tom Brady when the Pats lost in the playoffs. Tom Brady of all QBs needs no excuses. As for Brady being better than Bradshaw... those were different times and it was a different game back then. Bradshaw took a team from laughing stock to dynasty. Brady inherited a better team to start with. Bradshaw has 4 Super Bowl rings and will forever have a better Super Bowl record than Tom Brady. For that, I'll always argue for Bradshaw over Brady. As for Roethlisberger vs Brady, it can't be argued at this point. Ben still (hopefully) has a good 10 years left. When their careers are over they can be judged. And I seriously hope you are kidding about Neil O'Donnell. The name alone makes any Steelers fan want to vomit.

Regardless of how they started the 70 Steelers had far more talent than any of our teams has ever had, even more than our 2007 roster which consisted only 2 future Hall of Famers. How many did the 70 Steelers have?

# 227 KensaiKatai @ 05/27/09 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by shotgun styles


	Wow. That was some argument you just made. I really don't know how to respond other than to say... HEART OF A CHAMPION!!! It's about as relevant to your statement as your statement is to mine.

# 228 nepatriotsfan @ 05/27/09 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by PYA-MUSTANG86


	1. Calvin Johnson 2. Greg Jennings 3. Reggie Wayne 4. Roddy White 5. Chad Johnson (better not be Chad Ochocinco in madden) 6. Randy Moss 7. Larry Fitzgerrald 8. Anquan Boldin 9. Steve Smith 10. Marquis Colstin 11. Andre Johnson 12. Lee Evans (yeah thats right not even the best WR on his own team now) 13. T.J Houshmanzadah 14. Braylon Edwards 15. Brandon Marshall Ok well that's 15 WR's that are better then T.O. Not in any particular order, didn't have enough time to rank em all.

why shouldnt he be ocho cinco. they are letting him wear it on his jersey now

# 229 tonynyy @ 05/27/09 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by steelers1


	I do hate me some Patriots, but... I wasn't evaluating Brady by his losses. I was replying to a guy who was basically making excuses for Tom Brady when the Pats lost in the playoffs. Tom Brady of all QBs needs no excuses. As for Brady being better than Bradshaw... those were different times and it was a different game back then. Bradshaw took a team from laughing stock to dynasty. Brady inherited a better team to start with. Bradshaw has 4 Super Bowl rings and will forever have a better Super Bowl record than Tom Brady. For that, I'll always argue for Bradshaw over Brady. As for Roethlisberger vs Brady, it can't be argued at this point. Ben still (hopefully) has a good 10 years left. When their careers are over they can be judged. And I seriously hope you are kidding about Neil O'Donnell. The name alone makes any Steelers fan want to vomit.

Just so you know, in 2000 the Patriots went 5-11 and picked 6th overall. The team was 0-2 when Brady replaced Bledsoe. That was a pretty bad team, at least record-wise, and Brady led it to 3 championships in 4 years. Brady is the quarterback of this generation, whether you like it or not, and since he wants to play another 10 years, he'll probably go down as one of the best ever, ahead of your man Terry Bradshaw.

And yes, Neil O'Donnell was a joke

# 230 steelers1 @ 05/27/09 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Obelysk


	Regardless of how they started the 70 Steelers had far more talent than any of our teams has ever had, even more than our 2007 roster which consisted only 2 future Hall of Famers. How many did the 70 Steelers have?

They had plenty of HOFers, probably about 10. But they also beat the Cowboys in 2 of those SBs which was also a team filled with HOFers. Either way its pretty irrelevant. No QBs win titles without good teams.

# 231 Glorious Arc @ 05/27/09 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Sanchez_Mareno


	Manning wast declining last year, he was recovering from injury. This year however without all his coaches and marvin harrison....

I agree that Manning was not on the decline because he was hurt for the preseason and it took him a couple of games to get back on pace. The other thing is after he was back on track they went undefeated for the rest of the season.

I will also agree that Manning may be hurt by the coaching changes.

I will disagree about him "losing" Harrison. He lost the old Harrison back in 07. I rememeber this past season watching countless times that the Manning to Harrison connection was completely off. Manning wasnt hitting Harrison like he used to because Harrison wasnt running his routes like before and he was slower. Manning has already had to face life in the NFL without Harrison and he threw for 4000+ yards and 31 touchdowns(2007). I do not think that it will hurt him as much as losing his coaching staff.

If anyone was willing to go back and read some of the first few pages they would have noticed that Shotgun Styles and myself agreed that Brady would be better suited with 89-92 throw power, 96 TAS, 92 TAM, and 90 TAD(or something very close to that) Styles is saying Brady is overrated IRL but desrves these stats not the 97 throw power which is hugely overrating Bradys throw power.

# 232 tonynyy @ 05/28/09 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Glorious Arc


	I agree that Manning was not on the decline because he was hurt for the preseason and it took him a couple of games to get back on pace. The other thing is after he was back on track they went undefeated for the rest of the season. I will also agree that Manning may be hurt by the coaching changes. I will disagree about him "losing" Harrison. He lost the old Harrison back in 07. I rememeber this past season watching countless times that the Manning to Harrison connection was completely off. Manning wasnt hitting Harrison like he used to because Harrison wasnt running his routes like before and he was slower. Manning has already had to face life in the NFL without Harrison and he threw for 4000+ yards and 31 touchdowns(2007). I do not think that it will hurt him as much as losing his coaching staff. If anyone was willing to go back and read some of the first few pages they would have noticed that Shotgun Styles and myself agreed that Brady would be better suited with 89-92 throw power, 96 TAS, 92 TAM, and 90 TAD(or something very close to that) Styles is saying Brady is overrated IRL but desrves these stats not the 97 throw power which is hugely overrating Bradys throw power.

I have to admit, Brady isn't a 97 THP guy, but 89 is really low. He's more in the 94-95 range in my opinion.

# 233 droopizzle34 @ 05/28/09 02:30 AM

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Originally Posted by PYA-MUSTANG86


	I would love to see Brady play the entire season without knowing exactly what play the defense is running before each snap. And by the way I predicted that Brady would suffer a season ending injury week 1 about 2 months before the season even started, and I sited Karma as my reason behind the prediction. Also the fact that Matt Casel excelled last year for the Pats proves that I could probably be a Pro Bowl QB for them. Manning has something that Brady lacks and that's talent and heart. And Brady is a whimp Favre would have provbably played thru a blown out knee before getting surgery in the off season.

^----- and after this dumb,mindless post,time for the mods to come through and pull the plug on this dumbness.....

# 234 R9NALD9 @ 05/28/09 05:46 AM

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Originally Posted by KensaiKatai


	shotgun i agree with pretty much everything you've said throughout this thread. keep it up, let em know!

I concur

# 235 TheWatcher @ 05/28/09 06:08 AM

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Originally Posted by R9NALD9


	good points, couldn't agree more

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Originally Posted by Shotgun Styles


	And he wasn't throwing for 4000 yards and 50 TDs back then either, now was he? I remember a game where he had FIVE COMPLETIONS and won the game! Those were great TEAMS that Brady just had to keep out of trouble and on schedule. The kicker won all three AFC Championship games and all three Superbowls. I'm not saying Brady sucked. Not at all. I'm just saying that he was not asked to do much during those Superbowl years other than manage the game, and didn't start blowing the doors off statistically until Moss arrived.

You can point to any QB and bring up a game where they played poorly and still won the game from Sammy Baugh, to Johnny Unitas, to Joe Montana. This means nothing.

Secondly, Vinatieri did not win all 3 Super Bowls. For starters, a kicker has to be put into position to make the kick. A kicker can't make an 80+ yarder, lol. Brady put him into position to make those kicks. Secondly, the games were TIED in the 2 Super Bowls where the kicks were needed.

Thirdly, Super Bowl 39 was not won by a field goal. It was won by 3 points yes, but that's because garbage Dexter Reid gave up a late TD when the Pats were up 24-14.

Also, before Moss, Brady had a year where he led the league in TD passes and another where he led the league in passing yards. Game managers never lead the league in anything.

To call Brady a game manager is absurd. Your claim doesn't line up with game footage. Trent Dilfer was a game manager. Brady wasn't asked to just not screw it up, he was asked to make clutch throws because that's what he's always been capable of. Super Bowl 36, they could've sat on the ball and went to overtime, even John Madden thought this is what they'd do. They didn't. Instead, Brady (a first-year starter) threw, drove them downfield and put them into position for the winning FG.

Super Bowl 38, again, he set the Super Bowl record for completions against one of the leagues best defenses, and plenty of those throws were downfield passes and tight passes. And once again, he threw on a final drive, same outcome. Win.

Super Bowl 42, clutch throws again on a final drive and this time it was a TD pass. Eli had his own, but had Eli not we'd still be talking about Brady's final drive.

I'm sorry man, but you're just making this stuff up in your head because you hate Tom Brady, but it's not based in fact. Brady has had so many games where he's been called on to make the clutch throws it's hard to keep count now.

# 236 TheWatcher @ 05/28/09 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by shotgun styles


	You are subscribing to another myth that the system is just about Xs and Os.

You're ASSUMING that I "subscribe", but I have news for ya... I don't.

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Originally Posted by shotgun styles


	If you cannot function outside the system and make plays, you are a system QB. That's Brady and Manning.

This is based on speculation. Zero fact.

You can have an argument--although a very thin one because it is speculation--that Manning couldn't succeed outside of his system because we've never seen him play in anything different. But with Brady there is no argument. As I've stated, he's proven successful in a wide-open system and a controlled passing system. The case is closed there. You're just arguing against an irrefutable historical fact now.

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Originally Posted by shotgun styles


	Sure, Brady kept from making mistakes in the SB, but that makes him a game manager not a playmaker.

That's absolute nonsense. This claim does not line up with game footage. If you watched Super Bowl 38, unbiased, there is no way you could hold that view. Nothing about his play that day indicated game manager. Nothing, lol. Game managers don't lead teams on drives to win, he did that 3 times (lost on the 3rd one). That's not the trait of a game manager. Game managers don't set SB records for completions, throw for 354 yards and 3 TD's against a top defense in a Super Bowl. Brady did that. Your game manager claim is not based in fact.

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Originally Posted by shotgun styles


	He does not make big plays when the system breaks down. Period.

Untrue. I've seen practically every game the man has played. The year they were bounced out of the playoffs by the Broncos, he made his living making plays in breakdowns. He had no choice because the line was a mess that year. He spent most of the year on his back. I remember commentators chuckling about how many hits Brady was taking that year, but applauding him for the fact that it didn't seem to rattle him.

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Originally Posted by shotgun styles


	McNabb does. Favre does. Roethlisberger does. That's the difference, and it can't be measured with a numerical formula.

I'd like to see this formula.

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Originally Posted by shotgun styles


	Brady is the best in the game only because the rules of the NFL are designed to be unfair to defenses.

Then you could say the same thing about every QB that's played in the modern era. This argument is nothing more than an attack on the modern era and one I don't "subscribe" to. For as much as the rules have over time changed to favor offenses, the thought that all of those QB's from the past would be successful today is laughable. The sophistication of defensive personnel usage alone would be a headache, but the scheming by itself would be a nightmare for most QB's of yesteryear, not to mention the increased defensive athleticism.

Back in the old days, the QB was the most athletic player on the field often times, but that same QB by today's standards would be among the least. It's not like those guys were running 4.3's, lol. They were still pretty slow, it's just that their opponents were slower. Times have changed. Johnny Unitas used to run around and make yards from time to time, even faking out defenders! He'd be looking through his earhole while leaving on a stretcher if he tried that in this era.

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Originally Posted by shotgun styles


	Brady is a product of the system that he plays in,

No such thing. The player makes the system successful, not the other way around. Football 101. Ask any coach at any level.

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Originally Posted by shotgun styles


	and the rules designed to allow him to cheat when he's in trouble. If he couldn't slide or throw the ball away he would start to be exposed. Go a step further and remove the rediculous 5 yard chuck rule (the Mel Blount Rule) and now he HAS to make plays because everyone isn't going to be running downfield untouched. This game has been around a long time. But in the last 30 years has become less and less fair to defenses. Brady and Manning are manufactured superstars who lack the physical talent to play in a league that does not cater to their weakness. People always want to know why there is so much bad QB play in the NFL. The answer is that these pink jersey rules surrounding QBs and the passing game have bred so much weakness and cowardice into the position that most of these guys don't have what it takes to survive adversity. Manning and Brady have always played on very talented teams, and faced very little on-field adversity (Tom's knee being the worst). I submit to you that if either played for the Raiders or Lions nobody outside of hardcore fans would have heard of them.

I disagree with pretty much all of that. But my question is, why do you watch the NFL today? You clearly have no respect for it.

# 237 Sanchez_Mareno @ 05/28/09 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by droopizzle34


	Dude are you serious???? Being on forums I had come to realize that people are just haters of greatness. Tom Brady wasn't even projected to be a great QB. The guy put in th work and dedication to be a good QB,and he is one. This guy put up 3,000+ yards throwing to Reche Caldwell and Jabar Gafney. What did you think would happen when he got a monster to throw to?I'd expect Manning's numbers to be astronomical if he was throwing to Moss. The proof is in the pudding.The guy was putting up numbers with average WRs,winning SuperBowls with game winning drives with average WRs. I can't stand the Pats,but I give them and Tom Brady especially RESPECT for being one of the elite. You guys with these wild dumb comments should go to a corner. You really have no idea what you're talking about.People need to learn to respect the great talent you see instead of bombing them with dumb insults.It's not even criticsm,it's just dumb mindless opinions of a *****. I guess me being an athlete myself,I can respect the talent and greatness of elite athletes.They are where they are through their hard work,study skills,and dedication to what they do. You can say system all you want,but you still have to make the reads,you still have to make the throws.And all those grocery baggers are bagging because they couldn't do it.

This.

# 238 KILLAKAVOR @ 05/28/09 09:47 AM

I hope this madden will get a rating somewhere in the 9 catagory. The last four years its been 2009= 8.0, 2008=8.5, 2007=7.9, 2006=7.4, I hope this year maddens overall rating will be like a 9.5 or atleast 9.0...I think they have done wonders to the game so far.

# 239 KILLAKAVOR @ 05/28/09 10:50 AM

# 240 roadman @ 05/28/09 11:51 AM

So, bottom line, you do have a bias and agenda with Brady.

Thus, all your statements are opinions, not fact.

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