Madden NFL 10 Ratings: Top 10 by Position (ESPN Videogames)

[steelers1]

Quote: Originally Posted by celg35

umm brady has won 3, been to four

I was saying the Patriots haven't won a Super Bowl since the 04-05 season, and that the Steelers have won 2 since then, meaning my team has been more successful in the past 5 years than the Pats or any other team for that matter.

[Obelysk]

Quote: Originally Posted by droopizzle34

Dude are you serious???? Being on forums I had come to realize that people are just haters of greatness. Tom Brady wasn't even projected to be a great QB. The guy put in th work and dedication to be a good QB,and he is one. This guy put up 3,000+ yards throwing to Reche Caldwell and Jabar Gafney. What did you think would happen when he got a monster to throw to?I'd expect Manning's numbers to be astronomical if he was throwing to Moss. The proof is in the pudding.The guy was putting up numbers with average WRs,winning SuperBowls with game winning drives with average WRs. I can't stand the Pats,but I give them and Tom Brady especially RESPECT for being one of the elite. You guys with these wild dumb comments should go to a corner. You really have no idea what you're talking about.People need to learn to respect the great talent you see instead of bombing them with dumb insults.It's not even criticsm,it's just dumb mindless opinions of a *****. I guess me being an athlete myself,I can respect the talent and greatness of elite athletes.They are where they are through their hard work,study skills,and dedication to what they do. You can say system all you want,but you still have to make the reads,you still have to make the throws.And all those grocery baggers are bagging because they couldn't do it.

THANK YOU! There are just so many people out there that love to hate on the guy, I hardly ever attack any players and I have a lot of respect for Peyton even though I hate the Colts. I will always defend Brady against anyone who says he other wise anything less about him. He might never be the best all time but he has earned his good share of respect.

[celg35]

Quote: Originally Posted by steelers1

I was saying the Patriots haven't won a Super Bowl since the 04-05 season, and that the Steelers have won 2 since then, meaning my team has been more successful in the past 5 years than the Pats or any other team for that matter.

MORE SUCCESFUL................if you mean by more super bowls , then yes, but if you mean win loss record....prob not.

that debate could also go for the last ten years as well.

the steelers are a great team...make no bones about it , but to compare both franchises is like comparing a corvette to a porsche.............get what i mean????

[stux]

I hate on the guy but there is no doubt he will go down as one of the greatest, Jim Kelly type guy. Maybe Aikman with the rings but for some reason he remind be of Kelly.

I personally think, at this stage of his career and coming off an injury, he should take a hit on his ratings and someone like Brees should be slightly better.

That isn't to say that next year or with an update he wouldn't be right back up there.

Unless I am wrong that was by far the worst injury he has had in his career and sometimes that effect players in a big way.

I think Big Ben, McNabb, and Culpepper were different QB before their injuries.

I can't believe this debate is still going though. His ORV rating is close and of that there is no doubt. Maybe his ThP and accuracies need some tweaking but it is in the ball park.

[tonynyy]

Quote: Originally Posted by steelers1

I was saying the Patriots haven't won a Super Bowl since the 04-05 season, and that the Steelers have won 2 since then, meaning my team has been more successful in the past 5 years than the Pats or any other team for that matter.

Wow, you have the biggest anti-Patriots bias ever. Tom Brady is a greater quarterback than the Steelers have ever had (yes I know about Bradshaw, Roethlisberger and O'Donnell). He's a winner whether you like it or not, and his 50 TD season cemented him as one of the greats. In an earlier post you evaluated him based on his losses which is completely ridiculous. If I told you Big Ben deserved an 80 overall because he choked in the 2004 AFC championship game or because he didn't do anything in Super Bowl XL, would it make sense? Exactly.

[AC IS ART]

Quote: Originally Posted by Candyman5

I am not saying he isnt dangerous in the open field, but giving him 94 speed and 98 ball carrier vison is just silly. He is not as fast as he was and that his BCV is higher than everyone else? There were 13 players that had higher yards then him last year and him having higher BCV then LT, Micheal Turner, AD and the other HB that are beter than him at running is stupid. Out of the top 10 HB he should be at thye highest 8 or 9.

Exactly. Westbrook gets my respect but he is not really fast. Shifty and elusive yes, a burner...no. Atleast its not as bad as 09' when he had fricken 97 speed and simply could not be tackled. And if LT is going to get a decrease after an injury plagued season, Westbrook should as well.

[tonynyy]

Quote: Originally Posted by shotgun styles

Tom Brady "lead his team". By that logic Kevin Faulk should be enshrined in the HOF since he caught most of those passes and won all those Superbowls. Is Kevin Faulk the greatest HB in the NFL? I don't think so. You (and the NFL) are trying to manufacture greatness out of Brady's proximity to the winning play, even though HE DID NOT MAKE IT. Sorry. Adam is the true great on those SB teams, not Brady's overrated self. And none of this even MENTIONS the awesome scoring defense and special teams on those Patriot squads. That whole team was awesome. Brady was just in the right place at the right time. No, I'm agreeing with you. Tom Brady is the best QB in the NFL. My argument is that the NFL rules are rigged so that talentless hacks like Brady can succeed by hiding their weaknesses in a QB friendly system. If Brady plays before 1978 he's pronounced dead by week 4. As it stands, his best friend is the "throw away" play that allows him to cheat his way to fake greatness. Really? Brady could run the Option or the Wildcat? Show me film of that!

Wow. Just Wow. Are you mentally challenged?

[steelers1]

Quote: Originally Posted by celg35

MORE SUCCESFUL................if you mean by more super bowls , then yes, but if you mean win loss record....prob not. that debate could also go for the last ten years as well. the steelers are a great team...make no bones about it , but to compare both franchises is like comparing a corvette to a porsche.............get what i mean????

I think a team that wins the Super Bowl is better than a team that doesn't regardless of their record. As for the franchises, the Pats have been the best franchise this decade for sure, but of all time obviously the Steelers have the most SBs and such.