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# 201 steelers1 @ 05/27/09 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Broncos86
This is just speculation, but seeing how Matt Cassel did last year, does anyone ever question if Brady could be as effective on another team? For me, Peyton Manning could be plugged into any offense and succeed. He will find a way to succeed. I'm not convinced Brady is the same. For the same reason I believe that Matt Cassel will be a dud in KC.

The same could be said for several ex-Broncos RBs who tried to go elsewhere, after having success in Denver, and turned in subpar performances. Yes, a player must execute, this much is true. But I've seen enough evidence to suggest that some players are a one-system kind of player.
That's pretty much how I feel. Although I think Cassel has a chance to succeed in KC because they run a similar offense (just not as good weapons or oline).
 
# 202 iBlievN5 @ 05/27/09 07:32 PM
i cant see how you can rate brady as the best. manning is better, no doubt. judging people on team accomplishments/failures and using them to compare is asinine imo.
 
# 203 cowboyscowboys @ 05/27/09 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by KensaiKatai
yea cuz runnin a 4.36 at 6'2 215 (they list him at 210) isn't fast or anything....
Ya he never ran a 4.36 at the combine so it never happened. I mean everybody has run a 4.2, on their own time lol

94 speed is overrated he does deserve the 99 overall though
 
# 204 Broncos86 @ 05/27/09 07:42 PM
I'm not sure I can agree that Manning is declining. I'm not a fan of using numbers alone, but Manning put up his usual stats and the Colts went 12-4, despite having the 31st rank running game.
 
# 205 iBlievN5 @ 05/27/09 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Candyman5
If that is the case then lets talk about Westbrook, He has only been in the top 5 rushing yards like twice (Yes 2007 and 2006) and in them years he had 90 rec and 77 rec. If he doesn't catch balls out of the back field, he doesn't get rushing yard. I am tired of Biased Philly fans wanting him to have ratings like he has had past years. He is not very leathal running the ball and never really was. He is a threat to defenses because of the options that Westy gives the offense in how to use him. Ocassionally he can get some big runs, but that is occasionally. Exactly like Reggie Bush.

Stats: Last Year: 936 rushing yards w/ 54 rec for 402 yards.

I mean the games I have watched of philly (Unfortunately alot since I live in WV) he has had his big run games after he is used in the passing. If a team shuts down his passing aspect then he cant do anything.
dude, are you REALLY mad about that loss by the vikings to the eagles? seriously, EVERY post you make is about taking westbrook down. westbrook hasnt had the attempts most backs have, hence he has less yds. for the 02 and 03 seasons he shared the load, and was at one point part of a three committee backfield. in all his years of starting the year as the number one back he has a career rushing avg of 4.6, he in the injury plagued year he had scored 14 tds, 9 on the ground, you dont get those going to the outside every play. and damn reggie bush, he cant hold westbrooks JOCK. im tired of this myth that brian cant run up the middle, ITS WHERE NEARLY EVERY RUN GOES. the eagles, when they decide to run, are a straight ahead team, we have our stretch plays but as far as running we take it up the middle. last year, he did that well battling injuries, NO FB, washed up tackles, with his best o-lineman out, and with no blocking TE. please, give up on making westbrook average, hes an outstanding back.
 
# 206 Sanchez_Mareno @ 05/27/09 07:44 PM
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Brady was just in the right place at the right time.
Your saying any qb could have lead NE to those SBs??
 
# 207 Broncos86 @ 05/27/09 07:46 PM
I'd be pretty happy with a RB that averaged over 4 YPC (as Westbrook has).
 
# 208 steelers1 @ 05/27/09 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by celg35
Brady could also be put in any system and win....Cassel might of had a one year wonder....the jury is still out on him....and i believe when brady came in his first year they won a superbowl.

manning showed his decline last year without having a healthy wide reciever crew.... brady has done it with nobody in the past....

thier both great qb's ,but for the win in the final drive i'd go with brady...........
Manning showed his decline? Seriously? That Colts team doesn't win 4 games without Manning last year. They had no running game at all. He was hurt the first half of the season but then put the team on his back and got to the playoffs. That's why he won the MVP. Yeah, they lost in the first round of the playoffs, but it wasn't Manning's fault, he had a great game and never even got the ball in OT.
 
# 209 iAM-IncReDiBLe- @ 05/27/09 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Ewing
Somebody is going to have to explain to me how Reggie Wayne is better than Calvin Johnson.
Calvin is probably more talented but you also need to take into account that Reggie has been putting up great stats for along time. That is probably why madden has Reggie rated higher.
 
# 210 Sanchez_Mareno @ 05/27/09 07:49 PM
Manning wast declining last year, he was recovering from injury.
This year however without all his coaches and marvin harrison....
 
# 211 iAM-IncReDiBLe- @ 05/27/09 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by PGaither84
Those who know me, know I am a big Tom Brady fan... and I honestly think they mixed Manning and Brady's ratings up. Manning should have higher THP and THAD. Tommy should have higher THAS and THAM. Tom should have 92 THP, or 90 after the injury. I thought that in 07 he should have capped out at the 94-96 range, not at 99. He is known for his ability to put the ball where he wants to, and he throws near perfect short and medium passes. He can throw a good deep ball, but Moss is just as much the reason there were so many deep completions.

I am surprised Westbrook is so overrated, Frank gore is slightly underrated [his trucking should be a lot higher and elusive a tad lower. carry just right until he shows he can hold on to the ball.] I am upset that Vernon Davis didn't make the top 10 [concidering Z. Miller did...] and wish there was a better break down defensively. At leat all Line, all LBs, and all secondary.
I agree 100%
 
# 212 Broncos86 @ 05/27/09 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Sanchez_Mareno
Manning wast declining last year, he was recovering from injury.
This year however without all his coaches and marvin harrison....
I don't understand how recovering from an injury is the same as declining, especially considering the numbers he put up and the result of his team. In fact, I'd be willing to argue that Manning proved he's still on top of his game, with regards to last year.

I would never suggest that Brady was declining simply because he was out for the entirety of last season.
 
# 213 droopizzle34 @ 05/27/09 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by shotgun styles
Again, I'm not saying that Brady can't play. Or even that he sucks. I'm saying that he's only good because the NFL passing rules are rigged.

Having said that, explain to me how he is any better than Drew Brees. A guy who is amazingly LESS TALENTED than Tom, AND short to boot! But he goes out and throws Marino numbers on a pretty weak team.

I think that given the team and system there are at least 10 other starters, and 20 other backups in the NFL that could do what Brady did if they had the opportunity. Playing QB in the NFL is all about accuracy and timing. All the rest is just media hype.

There are probably several hundred ex-high school QBs who are bagging groceries and driving forklifts that could do what Brady did if you gave them the same team and circumstances to work with.
Dude are you serious????

Being on forums I had come to realize that people are just haters of greatness. Tom Brady wasn't even projected to be a great QB. The guy put in th work and dedication to be a good QB,and he is one. This guy put up 3,000+ yards throwing to Reche Caldwell and Jabar Gafney. What did you think would happen when he got a monster to throw to?I'd expect Manning's numbers to be astronomical if he was throwing to Moss.
The proof is in the pudding.The guy was putting up numbers with average WRs,winning SuperBowls with game winning drives with average WRs. I can't stand the Pats,but I give them and Tom Brady especially RESPECT for being one of the elite.

You guys with these wild dumb comments should go to a corner. You really have no idea what you're talking about.People need to learn to respect the great talent you see instead of bombing them with dumb insults.It's not even criticsm,it's just dumb mindless opinions of a *****.
I guess me being an athlete myself,I can respect the talent and greatness of elite athletes.They are where they are through their hard work,study skills,and dedication to what they do. You can say system all you want,but you still have to make the reads,you still have to make the throws.And all those grocery baggers are bagging because they couldn't do it.
 
# 214 marcoyk @ 05/27/09 08:45 PM
All that I'm caring about ratings wise is that J-Camp's close accuracy should be really good but his medium and deep accuracy should be considerably worse.
 
# 215 TexasBorn1 @ 05/27/09 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by shotgun styles
Again, I'm not saying that Brady can't play. Or even that he sucks. I'm saying that he's only good because the NFL passing rules are rigged.

Having said that, explain to me how he is any better than Drew Brees. A guy who is amazingly LESS TALENTED than Tom, AND short to boot! But he goes out and throws Marino numbers on a pretty weak team.

I think that given the team and system there are at least 10 other starters, and 20 other backups in the NFL that could do what Brady did if they had the opportunity. Playing QB in the NFL is all about accuracy and timing. All the rest is just media hype.

There are probably several hundred ex-high school QBs who are bagging groceries and driving forklifts that could do what Brady did if you gave them the same team and circumstances to work with.
Drew throws a LOT of passes..More than any other QB.
 
# 216 Candyman5 @ 05/27/09 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by iBlievN5
dude, are you REALLY mad about that loss by the vikings to the eagles? seriously, EVERY post you make is about taking westbrook down. westbrook hasnt had the attempts most backs have, hence he has less yds. for the 02 and 03 seasons he shared the load, and was at one point part of a three committee backfield. in all his years of starting the year as the number one back he has a career rushing avg of 4.6, he in the injury plagued year he had scored 14 tds, 9 on the ground, you dont get those going to the outside every play. and damn reggie bush, he cant hold westbrooks JOCK. im tired of this myth that brian cant run up the middle, ITS WHERE NEARLY EVERY RUN GOES. the eagles, when they decide to run, are a straight ahead team, we have our stretch plays but as far as running we take it up the middle. last year, he did that well battling injuries, NO FB, washed up tackles, with his best o-lineman out, and with no blocking TE. please, give up on making westbrook average, hes an outstanding back.
Why would I be mad about that? The Vikings had plenty of chances to win that game. And Westbrook beat us (On a screen) by a throw from McNabb. I am not backing away from my statement that Westbrook cant run up the middle. I am not saying he isnt dangerous in the open field, but giving him 94 speed and 98 ball carrier vison is just silly. He is not as fast as he was and that his BCV is higher than everyone else? There were 13 players that had higher yards then him last year and him having higher BCV then LT, Micheal Turner, AD and the other HB that are beter than him at running is stupid. Out of the top 10 HB he should be at thye highest 8 or 9.
 
# 217 steelers1 @ 05/27/09 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by NovaStar
Where do you get your football understanding? out of a cracker jack box? You, being a steelers fan, are one to talk about luck (the immaculate reception, ring a bell). The point is, Brady has three rings and is the quarterback of this generation. Deal with it.
The immaculate reception was luck, but it also didn't lead to a Super Bowl title like the tuck rule. And a lucky catch is a bit different than throwing a pick and having the defender fumble, or losing a fumble and having it overturned because of an obscure rule that nobody ever heard of.

Brady obviously is the golden boy of the NFL. That's why he gets a second NFL rule (after the Tom Brady tuck rule) after he blows out his knee. Why didn't they make that rule for Carson Palmer? And I know the Steelers have rules named after them too (the Hines Ward rule for blocking and the Mel Blount rule that completely altered passing), but those rules hurt the Steelers.

Also, I don't have to deal with anything. My Steelers have won 2 Super Bowls since the Pats have last won one.
 
# 218 steelers1 @ 05/27/09 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by celg35
umm brady has won 3, been to four
I was saying the Patriots haven't won a Super Bowl since the 04-05 season, and that the Steelers have won 2 since then, meaning my team has been more successful in the past 5 years than the Pats or any other team for that matter.
 
# 219 Obelysk @ 05/27/09 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by droopizzle34
Dude are you serious????

Being on forums I had come to realize that people are just haters of greatness. Tom Brady wasn't even projected to be a great QB. The guy put in th work and dedication to be a good QB,and he is one. This guy put up 3,000+ yards throwing to Reche Caldwell and Jabar Gafney. What did you think would happen when he got a monster to throw to?I'd expect Manning's numbers to be astronomical if he was throwing to Moss.
The proof is in the pudding.The guy was putting up numbers with average WRs,winning SuperBowls with game winning drives with average WRs. I can't stand the Pats,but I give them and Tom Brady especially RESPECT for being one of the elite.

You guys with these wild dumb comments should go to a corner. You really have no idea what you're talking about.People need to learn to respect the great talent you see instead of bombing them with dumb insults.It's not even criticsm,it's just dumb mindless opinions of a *****.
I guess me being an athlete myself,I can respect the talent and greatness of elite athletes.They are where they are through their hard work,study skills,and dedication to what they do. You can say system all you want,but you still have to make the reads,you still have to make the throws.And all those grocery baggers are bagging because they couldn't do it.
THANK YOU! There are just so many people out there that love to hate on the guy, I hardly ever attack any players and I have a lot of respect for Peyton even though I hate the Colts. I will always defend Brady against anyone who says he other wise anything less about him. He might never be the best all time but he has earned his good share of respect.
 
# 220 tonynyy @ 05/27/09 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by steelers1
I was saying the Patriots haven't won a Super Bowl since the 04-05 season, and that the Steelers have won 2 since then, meaning my team has been more successful in the past 5 years than the Pats or any other team for that matter.
Wow, you have the biggest anti-Patriots bias ever. Tom Brady is a greater quarterback than the Steelers have ever had (yes I know about Bradshaw, Roethlisberger and O'Donnell). He's a winner whether you like it or not, and his 50 TD season cemented him as one of the greats. In an earlier post you evaluated him based on his losses which is completely ridiculous. If I told you Big Ben deserved an 80 overall because he choked in the 2004 AFC championship game or because he didn't do anything in Super Bowl XL, would it make sense? Exactly.
 


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