Madden NFL 10 Ratings: Top 10 by Position (ESPN Videogames)

[celg35]

Brady could also be put in any system and win....Cassel might of had a one year wonder....the jury is still out on him....and i believe when brady came in his first year they won a superbowl.

manning showed his decline last year without having a healthy wide reciever crew.... brady has done it with nobody in the past....

thier both great qb's ,but for the win in the final drive i'd go with brady...........

[shotgun styles]

Quote: Originally Posted by NovaStar

No, you need to watch the film. How many qb's in the superbowl have led their team to game winning drives? In the five situations that Brady has participated in, he has won 3 and lost 2. The 3 would consist of 3 Superbowl rings of course, and the two would be the final game of an 18-0 season, in the superbowl with appoximately a minute and some change on the clock. The other would be on the road, with inferior receivers against on paper, a vastly superior team. A year inwhich it was a miracle that they even got to the AFC championship game, let alone having an opportunity to win it. The fact that they got that far is a bigger testimony to Brady's greatness, as opposed to your short sighted perception, attempting to spin it as a weakness. Rings= champion 3rings = greatness greatness = Brady Get your math game tight!

Tom Brady "lead his team". By that logic Kevin Faulk should be enshrined in the HOF since he caught most of those passes and won all those Superbowls. Is Kevin Faulk the greatest HB in the NFL? I don't think so.

You (and the NFL) are trying to manufacture greatness out of Brady's proximity to the winning play, even though HE DID NOT MAKE IT. Sorry. Adam is the true great on those SB teams, not Brady's overrated self.

And none of this even MENTIONS the awesome scoring defense and special teams on those Patriot squads. That whole team was awesome. Brady was just in the right place at the right time.

Quote: Originally Posted by celg35

this is a ridiculous debate about tom brady....he is the best QB in football............you have to be an ignorant to see otherwise. he has all the tools and he has the most important tool....his football iQ. this argument is just nonsense......he reached his peak in 06-07???????? what, when he broke the touchdown record............name a qb who is better...............guess what you...............are wrong....................

No, I'm agreeing with you. Tom Brady is the best QB in the NFL.

My argument is that the NFL rules are rigged so that talentless hacks like Brady can succeed by hiding their weaknesses in a QB friendly system. If Brady plays before 1978 he's pronounced dead by week 4. As it stands, his best friend is the "throw away" play that allows him to cheat his way to fake greatness.

Quote: Originally Posted by celg35

Brady could also be put in any system and win.....

Really? Brady could run the Option or the Wildcat? Show me film of that!

[cowboyscowboys]

Quote: Originally Posted by KensaiKatai

yea cuz runnin a 4.36 at 6'2 215 (they list him at 210) isn't fast or anything....

Ya he never ran a 4.36 at the combine so it never happened. I mean everybody has run a 4.2, on their own time lol

94 speed is overrated he does deserve the 99 overall though

[celg35]

Quote: Originally Posted by shotgun styles

Tom Brady "lead his team". By that logic Kevin Faulk should be enshrined in the HOF since he caught most of those passes and won all those Superbowls. Is Kevin Faulk the greatest HB in the NFL? I don't think so. You (and the NFL) are trying to manufacture greatness out of Brady's proximity to the winning play, even though HE DID NOT MAKE IT. Sorry. Adam is the true great on those SB teams, not Brady's overrated self. And none of this even MENTIONS the awesome scoring defense and special teams on those Patriot squads. That whole team was awesome. Brady was just in the right place at the right time. No, I'm agreeing with you. Tom Brady is the best QB in the NFL. My argument is that the NFL rules are rigged so that talentless hacks like Brady can succeed by hiding their weaknesses in a QB friendly system. If Brady plays before 1978 he's pronounced dead by week 4. As it stands, his best friend is the "throw away" play that allows him to cheat his way to fake greatness.

sorry my bad then....i'm at work i'm only catching some of these topics



my bad

[Broncos86]

I'm not sure I can agree that Manning is declining. I'm not a fan of using numbers alone, but Manning put up his usual stats and the Colts went 12-4, despite having the 31st rank running game.

[iBlievN5]

Quote: Originally Posted by Candyman5

If that is the case then lets talk about Westbrook, He has only been in the top 5 rushing yards like twice (Yes 2007 and 2006) and in them years he had 90 rec and 77 rec. If he doesn't catch balls out of the back field, he doesn't get rushing yard. I am tired of Biased Philly fans wanting him to have ratings like he has had past years. He is not very leathal running the ball and never really was. He is a threat to defenses because of the options that Westy gives the offense in how to use him. Ocassionally he can get some big runs, but that is occasionally. Exactly like Reggie Bush. Stats: Last Year: 936 rushing yards w/ 54 rec for 402 yards. I mean the games I have watched of philly (Unfortunately alot since I live in WV) he has had his big run games after he is used in the passing. If a team shuts down his passing aspect then he cant do anything.

dude, are you REALLY mad about that loss by the vikings to the eagles? seriously, EVERY post you make is about taking westbrook down. westbrook hasnt had the attempts most backs have, hence he has less yds. for the 02 and 03 seasons he shared the load, and was at one point part of a three committee backfield. in all his years of starting the year as the number one back he has a career rushing avg of 4.6, he in the injury plagued year he had scored 14 tds, 9 on the ground, you dont get those going to the outside every play. and damn reggie bush, he cant hold westbrooks JOCK. im tired of this myth that brian cant run up the middle, ITS WHERE NEARLY EVERY RUN GOES. the eagles, when they decide to run, are a straight ahead team, we have our stretch plays but as far as running we take it up the middle. last year, he did that well battling injuries, NO FB, washed up tackles, with his best o-lineman out, and with no blocking TE. please, give up on making westbrook average, hes an outstanding back.

[Sanchez_Mareno]

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Brady was just in the right place at the right time.

Your saying any qb could have lead NE to those SBs??

[Broncos86]

I'd be pretty happy with a RB that averaged over 4 YPC (as Westbrook has).