Madden NFL 10 Ratings: Top 10 by Position (ESPN Videogames)

[tonynyy]

Quote: Originally Posted by steelers1

I do hate me some Patriots, but... I wasn't evaluating Brady by his losses. I was replying to a guy who was basically making excuses for Tom Brady when the Pats lost in the playoffs. Tom Brady of all QBs needs no excuses. As for Brady being better than Bradshaw... those were different times and it was a different game back then. Bradshaw took a team from laughing stock to dynasty. Brady inherited a better team to start with. Bradshaw has 4 Super Bowl rings and will forever have a better Super Bowl record than Tom Brady. For that, I'll always argue for Bradshaw over Brady. As for Roethlisberger vs Brady, it can't be argued at this point. Ben still (hopefully) has a good 10 years left. When their careers are over they can be judged. And I seriously hope you are kidding about Neil O'Donnell. The name alone makes any Steelers fan want to vomit.

Just so you know, in 2000 the Patriots went 5-11 and picked 6th overall. The team was 0-2 when Brady replaced Bledsoe. That was a pretty bad team, at least record-wise, and Brady led it to 3 championships in 4 years. Brady is the quarterback of this generation, whether you like it or not, and since he wants to play another 10 years, he'll probably go down as one of the best ever, ahead of your man Terry Bradshaw.

And yes, Neil O'Donnell was a joke .

[celg35]

Quote: Originally Posted by nepatriotsfan

why shouldnt he be ocho cinco. they are letting him wear it on his jersey now

what....no wes welker on that list........LOL best slot receiver in the game

[steelers1]

Quote: Originally Posted by Obelysk

Regardless of how they started the 70 Steelers had far more talent than any of our teams has ever had, even more than our 2007 roster which consisted only 2 future Hall of Famers. How many did the 70 Steelers have?

They had plenty of HOFers, probably about 10. But they also beat the Cowboys in 2 of those SBs which was also a team filled with HOFers. Either way its pretty irrelevant. No QBs win titles without good teams.

[Glorious Arc]

Quote: Originally Posted by Sanchez_Mareno

Manning wast declining last year, he was recovering from injury. This year however without all his coaches and marvin harrison....

I agree that Manning was not on the decline because he was hurt for the preseason and it took him a couple of games to get back on pace. The other thing is after he was back on track they went undefeated for the rest of the season.

I will also agree that Manning may be hurt by the coaching changes.

I will disagree about him "losing" Harrison. He lost the old Harrison back in 07. I rememeber this past season watching countless times that the Manning to Harrison connection was completely off. Manning wasnt hitting Harrison like he used to because Harrison wasnt running his routes like before and he was slower. Manning has already had to face life in the NFL without Harrison and he threw for 4000+ yards and 31 touchdowns(2007). I do not think that it will hurt him as much as losing his coaching staff.

If anyone was willing to go back and read some of the first few pages they would have noticed that Shotgun Styles and myself agreed that Brady would be better suited with 89-92 throw power, 96 TAS, 92 TAM, and 90 TAD(or something very close to that) Styles is saying Brady is overrated IRL but desrves these stats not the 97 throw power which is hugely overrating Bradys throw power.

[tonynyy]

Quote: Originally Posted by Glorious Arc

I agree that Manning was not on the decline because he was hurt for the preseason and it took him a couple of games to get back on pace. The other thing is after he was back on track they went undefeated for the rest of the season. I will also agree that Manning may be hurt by the coaching changes. I will disagree about him "losing" Harrison. He lost the old Harrison back in 07. I rememeber this past season watching countless times that the Manning to Harrison connection was completely off. Manning wasnt hitting Harrison like he used to because Harrison wasnt running his routes like before and he was slower. Manning has already had to face life in the NFL without Harrison and he threw for 4000+ yards and 31 touchdowns(2007). I do not think that it will hurt him as much as losing his coaching staff. If anyone was willing to go back and read some of the first few pages they would have noticed that Shotgun Styles and myself agreed that Brady would be better suited with 89-92 throw power, 96 TAS, 92 TAM, and 90 TAD(or something very close to that) Styles is saying Brady is overrated IRL but desrves these stats not the 97 throw power which is hugely overrating Bradys throw power.

I have to admit, Brady isn't a 97 THP guy, but 89 is really low. He's more in the 94-95 range in my opinion.

[PYA-MUSTANG86]

I would love to see Brady play the entire season without knowing exactly what play the defense is running before each snap. And by the way I predicted that Brady would suffer a season ending injury week 1 about 2 months before the season even started, and I sited Karma as my reason behind the prediction. Also the fact that Matt Casel excelled last year for the Pats proves that I could probably be a Pro Bowl QB for them. Manning has something that Brady lacks and that's talent and heart. And Brady is a whimp Favre would have provbably played thru a blown out knee before getting surgery in the off season.

[droopizzle34]

Quote: Originally Posted by PYA-MUSTANG86

I would love to see Brady play the entire season without knowing exactly what play the defense is running before each snap. And by the way I predicted that Brady would suffer a season ending injury week 1 about 2 months before the season even started, and I sited Karma as my reason behind the prediction. Also the fact that Matt Casel excelled last year for the Pats proves that I could probably be a Pro Bowl QB for them. Manning has something that Brady lacks and that's talent and heart. And Brady is a whimp Favre would have provbably played thru a blown out knee before getting surgery in the off season.

^----- and after this dumb,mindless post,time for the mods to come through and pull the plug on this dumbness.....

[R9NALD9]

Quote: Originally Posted by KensaiKatai

shotgun i agree with pretty much everything you've said throughout this thread. keep it up, let em know!

I concur