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09 - Impressions and Discussion Here

05:01 PM - April 27, 2009 by Millennium

The new patch to upgrade MLB 09: The Show to version 1.06 has been released. Here is a list of the fixes from Community Manager Ramone Russell (Russell_SCEA on our boards):

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Originally Posted by Ramone Russell


	MLB 09 The Show PS3: Patch 2 Addressed Issues General: AL and NL West (including Cubs) schedule addresses. Day games updated to correct time zone. Addressed CPU Pitcher Energy from always full when pressing the quick menu while batting. Fixed the issue when in the bullpen moving from last pitcher (closer) to top pitcher, the top pitcher's stats stay the same as the closer. Inning pitched count corrected for pitchers during spring training. This is in ALL SEASON Modes. Fixed AUTO BASERUNNING. Users should no longer be able to control steels for you or CPU using L1 and L2 in any game at any time. Fixed the Movie Recording feature in both Replay and Replay Vault. Users should no longer get stuck after multiple recordings. Players names not being called correctly in the audio. One specific item was Beltran being called Delgado and vice versa. This line used to be erroneously said for Juan Rivera. It has now been corrected to play for Casey Kotchman. This line used to be erroneously said for David Ortiz. This line used to be erroneously said for Miguel Cabrera. It has now been "disabled". Career stats after going online and using weekly online Live Rosters or using the Online Roster Vault should now be correct. Fixed issues with unbalanced trades when the rosters were full. 3 for 1 trades that will result in people being placed on waivers should now function. Fix the problem in RTTS as the pitcher when a baserunner from 1st steals, the camera would sometimes swing around thru the crowd. Fix switch hitter sub presentations using the wrong helmet sometimes. Fix RTTS CP never getting a goal before the 1st pitch Fix the Batter Training camera automatically being set to Catcher Cam. Fix the Flashback Presentation X out problem. Franchise Bugs 1.Fixed September 14Road to the Show season lock. 2.Scouted players should now have feedback at the time of the amateur draft in June. 3.Fixed CPU roster control and lineup issue where users turn cpu roster control on, set a lineup, but lineup changes do not hold. 4.Fixed a bug where the user controlled team would not receive compensation picks when they lose Type A and B freeagents. 5.Fixed bug not allowing farm directors to be hired or fired. Just load into a franchise and fire a farm director during the off-season. 6.Addressed a problem where the title loses simulating functionality in franchise mode when addressing online requests. Online: 1.Addressed Free Agents in the Online league Live draft. They should now be placed on teams through Roster Update are usable on user�s teams. (Guys like Manny Ramirez or Adam Dunn should now be available.) 2.Fixed Message Board bug that result in no messages being shown after changing full pages. 3.Reduced online game bandwidth usage. 4.Made minor change to the League create screen to Randomize the Draft time to various 30 minute increments from 12noon from 8pm. An attempt to fix in-game disconnect issues in the production community. This is in an effort to stop the dreaded traffic delay problem the the community is reporting.

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# 461 SoxFan01605 @ 04/28/09 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by coreyhartsdaughter


	Not that I really want to add input on a laughable topic such as this, but: Who would loose expend more energy in a game, a young outfielder who doesn't make a play all game and also doesn't reach base, or a 35 year old DH who goes 2 for 4, and scores twice? The point, and argument are moot, and completely irrelevant when taken out of context from the "fatigue" system of the game. If a player playing DH looses slightly more energy than he "should" (if this were real life - which some of you need reminding is NOT) and plays 10 or 12 less games over a season, and THIS makes you loose sleep and endlessly hammer a keyboard on the internet - self evaluation time.

lol...a comment about context while ignoring that posts like this move the argument WAY out of context.

The issue some people have isn't that they fatigue "slightly less" than they do in real life.

Fatigue/Stamina has been somewhat of an issue in this game for awhile now. It just appears whatever tweaks they made for 09 has the DH going at a faster rate than position players in general...regardless of age. How can you jump on people for using real-world comparisons by making your own real-world comparison? Or am I misunderstanding intent?

There seems to be an issue there for several people and they are discussing it in the most logical place...the patch thread. Most have done so in an honest, mature fashion. The irony here is that it's the ones trying to defend the position are spitting out much more emotional responses than those looking for it to be addressed...which, in turn, causes emotion from the other side as well.

# 462 game dawg @ 04/28/09 05:27 PM

Mr. Kembo, this is your boss. Get to work, you gold-bricker (LOL).

I haven't done anything either, I just keep switching between the forum and Visual Studio when I hear footsteps (LOL).

# 463 coreyhartsdaughter @ 04/28/09 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by SoxFan01605


	lol...a comment about context while ignoring that posts like this move the argument WAY out of context. The issue some people have isn't that they fatigue "slightly less" than they do in real life. Fatigue/Stamina has been somewhat of an issue in this game for awhile now. It just appears whatever tweaks they made for 09 has the DH going at a faster rate than position players in general...regardless of age. How can you jump on people for using real-world comparisons by making your own real-world comparison? Or am I misunderstanding intent? There seems to be an issue there for several people and they are discussing it in the most logical place...the patch thread. Most have done so in an honest, mature fashion. The irony here is that it's the ones trying to defend the position are spitting out much more emotional responses than those looking for it to be addressed...which, in turn, causes emotion from the other side as well.

The proverbial chicken and egg. My point is; for as good as the game is, some of the small errors that many on these boards logically and illogically gripe about inconclusively affect the overall game.

The sense of self entitlement here is mind blowing, as Lewis CK recently and accurately pointed out on Conan, look how quickly, and how much some feel they are owed; (for which the technology didn't even exist 3 or 4 years ago!) moreover, the pursuit of this ridiculous video game perfection is absolutely absurd.

# 464 sdf4977 @ 04/28/09 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by JibbyTucson


	Is there any way you can go back to the opening series to see if you can sim that unplayed game? Jibby

Nothing....I went back to first game and nothing second game and nothing press over to go to that game and kicks out to XBM

# 465 masterkembo @ 04/28/09 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by game dawg


	Mr. Kembo, this is your boss. Get to work, you gold-bricker (LOL). I haven't done anything either, I just keep switching between the forum and Visual Studio when I hear footsteps (LOL).

Hahaha I don't even switch. Maybe a quick alt-tab if someone is actually coming into my office.

# 466 Chef Matt @ 04/28/09 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by masterkembo


	Hahaha I don't even switch. Maybe a quick alt-tab if someone is actually coming into my office.

Alt-tab. Thanks for the tip. I'm a chef not that computer litterate (sp?). I'm workin on it though. But I can make a vanilla bean creme brule to knock your socks off LOL.

# 467 masterkembo @ 04/28/09 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by dave_sz


	the cubs didn't have their schedule fixed? Where are all these people, the 100's and 100's you're talking about? There might be 10 of them that I can see but guess what, just as many if not more were having rtts glitches and crashes beforehand. Hell, even I had a random XMB reboot once in a while...

There's a few more than 10 dave. I count 22 (I can provide a list too if you really want) and that's in the last 2 pages here, the franchise freeze thread and the RTTS thread. I didn't want to go through the 50 pages of this thread.

Considering what, 1-2% of the people that own this game post on here, I think it's safe to say 100's of people are having franchise freezing the day after the patch.

BTW, I deleted the patch and can play games again without a problem. I'm pretty confident it is the patch.

# 468 SoxFan01605 @ 04/28/09 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by coreyhartsdaughter


	The proverbial chicken and egg. My point is; for as good as the game is, some of the small errors that many on these boards logically and illogically gripe about inconclusively affect the overall game. The sense of self entitlement here is mind blowing, as Lewis CK recently and accurately pointed out on Conan, look how quickly, and how much some feel they are owed; (for which the technology didn't even exist 3 or 4 years ago!) moreover, the pursuit of this ridiculous video game perfection is absolutely absurd.

That's the point. If you read back, the main one's asking about it (like brunnoce, for example) haven't been rude, demanding, etc. They've just expressed disappointment (in a healthy way) and then moved on to asking questions. Someone jumped in and tried to put them in there place by stating (without real knowledge too, mind you) that the issue was "made up".

You've shifted from the point a bit (and in all fairness, maybe I missed yours). Making blanket statements to cover either argument is equally silly and points to nothing, really. It doesn't have to be as black and white as you're trying to make it. The issue for people is something that IS in the game and WAS working differently is apparently not this year. They DO have a right to disappointment on that without being draped with the "self entitlement" blanket.

Some people will never be happy and complain about everything...I agree. I don't think we always have to gear our counters to that lowest common denominator though.

It works both ways too. One could argue that those who jump on every complaint that goes on are self endulgent.

It's rediculous to think that ANY complaint that gets brought forth (even the most legit) has to go through the defense filter. It's actually counter-productive to getting such bugs recognized and ironed out.

Maybe we're on different pages here. I'm talking about real gripes and you seem to be pointing to baseless complainers. I have no disagreement with that premise. In fact, I've had my own gripes with people senslessly demanding from/bashing SCEA. There's a constructive way and non-constructive way to handle it. On that, we are certainly on the same page.

My only point was, to refute every gripe as rediculous based on your personal ranking of it, and without understanding the nature of the complaint only exacerbates the issue and puts the focus on the more dramatic, negative posters among us.

But now I'm doing the same...lol...so with that, (in the interest of avoiding full on hypocrasy

) I'm done. Sorry to all for derailing the thread with an apparently poor attempt at promoting reason.

Back to the show!

# 469 sbauer318 @ 04/28/09 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by coreyhartsdaughter


	Not that I really want to add input on a laughable topic such as this, but: Who would loose expend more energy in a game, a young outfielder who doesn't make a play all game and also doesn't reach base, or a 35 year old DH who goes 2 for 4, and scores twice? The point, and argument are moot, and completely irrelevant when taken out of context from the "fatigue" system of the game. If a player playing DH looses slightly more energy than he "should" (if this were real life - which some of you need reminding is NOT) and plays 10 or 12 less games over a season, and THIS makes you loose sleep and endlessly hammer a keyboard on the internet - self evaluation time.

All I was doing was pointing out an issue that actually exists. I've made two posts about this patch - the one you responded to and something related to the 60-day DL. I fail to see how that puts me into the "self evaluation"/losing sleep category.

In general, players in the DH spot lose stamina as much as position players. As a result, one strategy from the game of baseball can be completely ignored. It's the same thing with 60-day DL. I post in hope that it will get recognized and fixed it in a future release. I don't post because it's causing me to take sleeping pills.

# 470 coreyhartsdaughter @ 04/28/09 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by sbauer318


	All I was doing was pointing out an issue that actually exists. I've made two posts about this patch - the one you responded to and something related to the 60-day DL. I fail to see how that puts me into the "self evaluation"/losing sleep category. In general, players in the DH spot lose stamina as much as position players. As a result, one strategy from the game of baseball can be completely ignored. It's the same thing with 60-day DL. I post in hope that it will get recognized and fixed it in a future release. I don't post because it's causing me to take sleeping pills.

Careful with the sleeping pills!

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# 471 coreyhartsdaughter @ 04/28/09 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by n8rockerasu


	Come on man. I have to disagree strongly here. People love throwing that "entitlement" argument around here like it's some horrible inhumane ideal. As consumers, when you make a purchase, it is not unreasonable to expect to get a product as it was advertised and marketed to you. If you're creating dreams and wishes out of thin air, that's one thing. But to merely expect the product to perform as you were led to believe it would, is just normal rational expectation. To that end, I am "entitled" to receive what I paid for, as it was advertised to me. If the product fails to deliver on any of the promises it made, then it is only natural that people criticize it. There are problems with this game. Simple as that. Unfortunately, those problems cover several different areas, and are of different levels of importance to different people. Yes, some people go above and beyond when showing their contempt, but it doesn't make their disappointment any less valid. But turning a blind eye to reasonable criticism and telling people that they have "entitlement" issues is just as bad. It makes you the very definition of an apologist. In the end, as consumers, the MOST we can do with any purchase is assess our satisfaction or dissatisfaction with the product, and make our own decisions on whether we would purchase it again in the future. I'm not going to condemn SCEA and boycott all future products. But I most certainly won't be making my decision to buy MLB 2010 in December like I did this past year. Like I've told my friends, all Sony has lost is my blind allegiance. I'd hope even the apologists could accept that.

Well stated.

That said, I feel the link between being portrayed as an apologist, and one who has realistic expectations is a lot larger than being represented in this thread.

# 472 coreyhartsdaughter @ 04/28/09 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by SoxFan01605


	That's the point. If you read back, the main one's asking about it (like brunnoce, for example) haven't been rude, demanding, etc. They've just expressed disappointment (in a healthy way) and then moved on to asking questions. Someone jumped in and tried to put them in there place by stating (without real knowledge too, mind you) that the issue was "made up". You've shifted from the point a bit (and in all fairness, maybe I missed yours). Making blanket statements to cover either argument is equally silly and points to nothing, really. It doesn't have to be as black and white as you're trying to make it. The issue for people is something that IS in the game and WAS working differently is apparently not this year. They DO have a right to disappointment on that without being draped with the "self entitlement" blanket. Some people will never be happy and complain about everything...I agree. I don't think we always have to gear our counters to that lowest common denominator though. It works both ways too. One could argue that those who jump on every complaint that goes on are self endulgent. It's rediculous to think that ANY complaint that gets brought forth (even the most legit) has to go through the defense filter. It's actually counter-productive to getting such bugs recognized and ironed out. Maybe we're on different pages here. I'm talking about real gripes and you seem to be pointing to baseless complainers. I have no disagreement with that premise. In fact, I've had my own gripes with people senslessly demanding from/bashing SCEA. There's a constructive way and non-constructive way to handle it. On that, we are certainly on the same page. My only point was, to refute every gripe as rediculous based on your personal ranking of it, and without understanding the nature of the complaint only exacerbates the issue and puts the focus on the more dramatic, negative posters among us. But now I'm doing the same...lol...so with that, (in the interest of avoiding full on hypocrasy) I'm done. Sorry to all for derailing the thread with an apparently poor attempt at promoting reason. Back to the show!

I think we're on the same team, just play different positions.

# 473 moemoe24 @ 04/28/09 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by sbauer318


	All I was doing was pointing out an issue that actually exists. I've made two posts about this patch - the one you responded to and something related to the 60-day DL. I fail to see how that puts me into the "self evaluation"/losing sleep category. In general, players in the DH spot lose stamina as much as position players. As a result, one strategy from the game of baseball can be completely ignored. It's the same thing with 60-day DL. I post in hope that it will get recognized and fixed it in a future release. I don't post because it's causing me to take sleeping pills.

I think what Cory is saying, and what I said about 20 pages ago is that Scea team KNOWS they have dropped the ball. If they didn't Russell wouldn't be on OS updating us. I see nothing wrong with stating the problems of this game.......I did it last night, but many, or maybe most of the complaints are the same ones over and over.

# 474 ferriscj24 @ 04/28/09 06:23 PM

Forgive me for not sifting through 52 pages of people whining and complaining about the patch...but I just have a question...

Should franchises be started over after downloading this patch? I am only a few games into it, so starting a new one is no big deal. Is it recommended to start over? And to continue using Knight's rosters?

Thank you!

# 475 moemoe24 @ 04/28/09 06:25 PM

I would say if you have already DL the patch, then yes, you should start over.

# 476 swaldo @ 04/28/09 06:26 PM

I was going to share my thoughts - but 100 pages in two patch threads probably have it all covered. I'll just grab a torch and start walking...

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# 477 SoxFan01605 @ 04/28/09 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ferriscj24


	Forgive me for not sifting through 52 pages of people whining and complaining about the patch...but I just have a question... Should franchises be started over after downloading this patch? I am only a few games into it, so starting a new one is no big deal. Is it recommended to start over? And to continue using Knight's rosters? Thank you!

Personally, I'm waiting to see what info Russell has to pass on before I forge ahead.

That said, if you're moving on now, I'd start over. It hasn't been formally stated either way (I don't think) by SCEA, but many of the problems seem to be with pre-patch franchises. I know there are those with zero issues, but IMO, starting over is the safest bet at this point.

As for the rosters, there seems to be no link between the issues and the rosters (other than the stat glitch, of course) so you should be fine to go on with Knight's rosters too.

# 478 racerx @ 04/28/09 06:29 PM

I too have a Cardinals franchise in progess up to May 4. Everything was fine in the game I played last night with Replays and Post Game Highlights. I then went back to the Schedule screen and went to the Dodgers schedule and checked there boxscore from May 4th and the game kicked me out to the XMB. I am using Ridins first full roster from March 27 I believe, but like stated before it really has nothing to do with the rosters.

Just my 2 cents!!!

# 479 coreyhartsdaughter @ 04/28/09 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ferriscj24


	Forgive me for not sifting through 52 pages of people whining and complaining about the patch...but I just have a question... Should franchises be started over after downloading this patch? I am only a few games into it, so starting a new one is no big deal. Is it recommended to start over? And to continue using Knight's rosters? Thank you!

Yes. I did the same last night. Works fine with the exception of postgame highlights missing.

# 480 ferriscj24 @ 04/28/09 06:32 PM

Thanks guys for the quick responses...I have not DL'd the patch...yet. Although something tells me that there will not be another patch. They released one that causes more problems than it fixes, and by this point, they are probably just working on MLB 10 for next year...

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