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Madden 09 News Post

Well as I post this it’s officially been exactly two weeks since Madden officially launched, and wow it sure has been a busy time for us. I truly hope everyone is enjoying the game, and I wanted to drop an update on some things we’ve been working on for our 2nd patch. We feel that without a doubt this encapsulates the top issues we’re hearing from the forums and community leaders, and hope that this list truly makes Madden NFL 09 the ultimate sports game for you.
  1. Kicking play disconnect: If two opponents play a game with two different camera angles, in any situation where a game winning or tying kick was to be made, a disconnect could occur. “ActionCam” forces the game to go into slow-motion to add drama to these late kicks, but unfortunately the Classic camera does not, thus forcing the “disconnect”. This has been fixed…and FYI all cameras will still be able to be used after the patch.
    Workaround until the patch: If possible, ensure that you and your opponent have the same camera type chosen before starting an online game.
  2. Stability issues in the play call / halftime highlights / postgame highlights screens (especially in Franchise mode after training games): This was a hard one to track down as not everyone was seeing it , we did find the issue however with some Instant Replay / cache corruption, and have a fix ready for patch 2.
    Workaround until the patch: Save and re-boot after any point where you have entered the game. We learned that the likelihood of this issue appearing is magnified after multiple loads into and out of the game engine. From what we’ve seen so far, people that have tried playing only one game at a time (or even one Franchise training session at a time), and saving/rebooting afterwards, have had zero crashes.
  3. Stability issues with Madden IQ end of game popup: This has been fixed.
    Workaround until the patch: Always choose “No” at the Madden IQ end of game popup.
  4. “WR direct snap” exploit: Cheesers found an exploit to direct snap to a WR for easy short yardage gain. Not only are we fixing this play (i.e. we aren’t removing it), we are also going to be re-setting records for anyone with a winning record that has been found to be using this play.
  5. Franchise Progression / Regression (or lack thereof): The lack of higher numbers was a tuning value that I think everyone agreed was just too low. This has been juiced up so you should see more realistic progression now.
  6. Edited players don’t progress: Players were not progressing after their jersey number (or pretty much any other attribute) was edited. This has been fixed.
  7. Stability issue when exiting Madden ’93 in CE version: This has been fixed.
  8. Deep ball glitch: Some enterprising gamers found a way to throw a deep ball while crossing the LOS and hit a receiver wide open at a decent rate. We addressed this by making sure the DB will no longer break on the ball when the QB crosses the line while throwing.
  9. CPU running out of bounds: This bug appears when the CPU tries to switch hands while running to the sidelines. This is fixed for patch 2.
  10. Penalty sliders ineffective: A common complaint from the hardcore community was the lack of effect from the penalty sliders. We increased these substantially for patch 2.
  11. Field degradation: Another common complaint was the lack of field degradation. Our effect was very subtle, which was also getting overshadowed by our lighting and post effects, so we increased this effect for the patch.
  12. Stability issue with the Eagles and a full ring meter: We found and fixed a rare issue where the gamer could run into stability issues while using the Eagles in mini-games with a ring meter that was completely full.
  13. Play call screen hitch: We found and fixed a bug that was causing a noticeable hitch when exiting the play call screen
  14. Prevent Defense issue: We found and fixed an issue where defenders sharing a deep zone/prevent assignment would loosen their coverage (because they thought the other guy was covering for them), which allowed the receiver to get behind them even though they were in Prevent.
  15. Brett Favre stats: With the late addition of Brett Favre, we were not able to get his Career and Season statistics into the game for the roster update. This has now been added for patch 2.
  16. Defensive Preplay Mis-cue: We found and fixed an issue where defenders would leave their man wide open in a Cover 3.
  17. CPU quick-snap: A very common complaint on the forums was the speed at which the CPU snapped the ball. We added a random length of time (no less than 5 seconds) for the CPU to wait and even make pre-play adjustments.
  18. Online playbook switch: We fixed a small annoying little issue where playbooks were re-setting to the defaults after the playbook select popup was closed.
I hope this makes everyone quite happy. :-)

The patch is being tested as I write this and will be sent off for verification in the morning, so we are targeting less than a 3 week turnaround from today for this to hit the general public. (Woohoo!) We will also make sure to provide updates as the patch progresses through the 3rd party approval process. As a side note, as of this moment there have been no changes to database schema, so you won’t have to re-start your Franchise or delete any files.

It makes us very stoked to be able to make this many changes for a patch, and do them based directly on community feedback. There are always going to be folks that are upset if what they felt was a top issue wasn’t addressed, but I’ll state again (as I have before) that we have to keep balancing this work against Madden NFL 2010. The longer we keep going on patches, the less we can add to the following year’s product. On a side note, there is also a Franchise stability issue that we have been investigating, and we are working feverishly to get this figured out. We will update on that issue as soon as we can. As for the items above, I personally feel that we have hit a very good balance of top items because many of these issues can actually detract from an enjoyable experience, which is obviously the last thing we want.

And now that this patch is nearly out the door, I figured I’d drop some more good news… We have officially started building the TOTALLY FREE “Sim Madden Gamer” DLC pack, which includes Accelerated Clock, a “Classic” Controller Configuration, CPU Sliders, and Community Gamerpics for 360. I’ll state again that there’s no promise that this goes through, but we have nearly every one of these features actually ‘done’ internally, so now we have to figure out how to get Microsoft and Sony to allow us to release them.

Thanks everyone – keep the feedback coming, and let's keep this train a-rollin'!

Ian Cummings
Senior Designer, Madden NFL 2010

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# 401 jwhite1347 @ 09/01/08 10:21 AM
question -- Anyone heard any recent knews on when the patch will be dropped to PS3/MS?
 
# 402 SolidSnake07 @ 09/01/08 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by ab2c4
This is about MS possibly having a problem with EA offering the DLC for free. If it turns out to be that, can't EA put this content on a DVD and make it available to whoever wants it? Such as, you could call EA and they would mail you the disk, or they could distribute the disk to Gamestops, Walmarts, BestBuy's, etc?

I know it would cost EA money to do this, but it is their game and they really should fix it.

Yeah the blood suckers at MS want you to pay for everything. Didnt they charge for alt unis in Madden 07?
 
# 403 TJdaSportsGuy @ 09/01/08 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by SolidSnake07
Yeah the blood suckers at MS want you to pay for everything. Didnt they charge for alt unis in Madden 07?
Nope...those were free.
 
# 404 Hammer67 @ 09/01/08 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by LosWorld
You'll find your answer in the original post.

We have too many people on this board who are like my wife...she calls for help before seeking the answer herself. I will now refer to you all as "she".
I couldn't have expressed that any better. Nice...
 
# 405 dmobious @ 09/01/08 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Guillotine 1
Look, I don't think anyone here is looking for a perfect game. I think we are all mature enough to understand that is unrealistic. However, what we are getting tired of asking for is a game that does not ship broken and needing to be patched.

Think about this, if you met me for the first time and I showed up with a bunch of patches all over me...wtf would you think? You'd swear something was wrong with me. Think I'd get many women to date me with a bunch of patches all over me?

As a customer, if I speak frankly about the many flawes this game has then i'm a ***** & a hypocrite according to some. Still, this game does not feel, play, or look like NFL games on sunday, Thursday, & Mondays. Other then the uniforms what are we really getting?

I was one of those guys that played only Madden strickly for years, until I bought ESPN 2K5. I was crushed by all the realism, atmosphere, presentation, commentary, etc...it was like a big brother sitting me down and going "Look kid, this is how it's done"...and when I came back to the boards to tell everyone I got shot down, flamed, and ousted for it.

So heres what I'm failing to understand. Why is it so taboo to critisize EA? Why do threads get locked, IP's get banned, and posters get blacksheep treatment? i thought that was censorship? i understand that forums have rules, and i understand the reason for those rules.

Are you people aware of the fact that these forums serve as the only public entity in which EA Sports can be held accountable for the problems with this product? These forums serve as the only medium in which they can be publically questioned or challenged for what have clearly been highly questionable decisions & practices. We've been told for years that the OL would be fixed next year, or that they fixed it. We've been told for years that gang tackling is in the game.

We've been told for years that suction blocking has been removed. They have been telling us for years that cut blocking & pancakes would be fixed. How long have we heard them tell us that they fixed the run blocking?

I think the there is a disconnect between what they think we want & what we say we want. I think they are trying so hard to be not like the NFL broadcasts we see on T.V. that they are ignoring the fanbase to do so. Every year the game is the same, with minimal changes. They think that is good, lots of fans disagree...and in all honesty I mean no disrespect to OS or to EA. Just telling it like it is. Like I said Madden NFL '09 is a good game, not great, but good.

AMEN!!!!! You preach it brother!

Everything this guy is saying is true.

Will things ever change? NOPE! We as Americans dont really give 2 sh!ts, the only way to stop this type of garbage is to STOP buying the game. Will that ever happen, NOPE! Lil kids all over America love this game for the garbage it is. They have no clue how a real Football video game should play, they have been given garbeag for the past few years and the accept this type of crap.

It is a shame.
 
# 406 nookiebear @ 09/01/08 12:47 PM
I'd be interested if the guy from EA would be up for taking the time to respond to some of the complaints on here about the glitches in the game

Some of it is really really basic stuff from a company making NFL games for 20 years
 
# 407 aholbert32 @ 09/01/08 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by ab2c4
This is about MS possibly having a problem with EA offering the DLC for free. If it turns out to be that, can't EA put this content on a DVD and make it available to whoever wants it? Such as, you could call EA and they would mail you the disk, or they could distribute the disk to Gamestops, Walmarts, BestBuy's, etc?

I know it would cost EA money to do this, but it is their game and they really should fix it.

That wont happen. The DLC isnt for bug fixes...its extra features. They wont pay the money it costs to manufacture, mail and distribute the dvds. It would be stupid from a business perspective to spend money on a disc with features that only the sim crowd (a miniscule part of the buying public) cares about. Most Madden gamers dont care about cpu sliders or accelarated clock and are satisfied with the game. In EA's opinion, the 2nd patch is going to fix the bugs and that should be enough for the average consumer. The DLC is really stuff that Ian is pushing for to satisfy the sim gamer.
 
# 408 Tengo Juego @ 09/01/08 12:58 PM
Will there be an opening day roster update?

I don't feel this needs its own thread and since this thread seems to be a bit busy lol, I wondered if I could get an answer here.
 
# 409 xV3L0CiTY @ 09/01/08 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by nookiebear
I'd be interested if the guy from EA would be up for taking the time to respond to some of the complaints on here about the glitches in the game

Some of it is really really basic stuff from a company making NFL games for 20 years
"The guy from EA" would be the lead designer, Ian.

1. He's on a well deserved vacation, so you won't be seeing him until he returns.

2. It's highly unlikely that he will respond to the complaints in here. There's a bugs/glitches discussion thread for a reason.
 
# 410 nookiebear @ 09/01/08 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by xV3L0CiTY
"The guy from EA" would be the lead designer, Ian.

1. He's on a well deserved vacation, so you won't be seeing him until he returns.

2. It's highly unlikely that he will respond to the complaints in here. There's a bugs/glitches discussion thread for a reason.
I meant on the site in general - OK, so will he respond to that thread? About things like the freezing and ghost wide receivers?
 
# 411 aholbert32 @ 09/01/08 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Tengo Juego
Will there be an opening day roster update?

I don't feel this needs its own thread and since this thread seems to be a bit busy lol, I wondered if I could get an answer here.

I doubt it. They usually release it on Friday before week 1 or Tuesday after week 1.
 
# 412 aholbert32 @ 09/01/08 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by nookiebear
I meant on the site in general - OK, so will he respond to that thread? About things like the freezing and ghost wide receivers?

Try the search function. Shoot the first post in this thread is Ian responding to the freeze issues.
 
# 413 xV3L0CiTY @ 09/01/08 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by nookiebear
I meant on the site in general - OK, so will he respond to that thread? About things like the freezing and ghost wide receivers?
http://www.operationsports.com/forum...on-thread.html

I don't know if he's responded to those things specifically (haven't read the whole thread) but he's responded.
 
# 414 mikeveli20 @ 09/01/08 04:39 PM
Will we be prompted to download 2 patches if we haven't got the first one yet? I don't have the game yet, and I'll be getting it once the 2nd patch is released (with good reviews hopefully). I just want to make sure I also get the stuff included in the first patch.
 
# 415 xV3L0CiTY @ 09/01/08 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by mikeveli20
Will we be prompted to download 2 patches if we haven't got the first one yet? I don't have the game yet, and I'll be getting it once the 2nd patch is released (with good reviews hopefully). I just want to make sure I also get the stuff included in the first patch.
Yeah, you'll get the first patch. It will just prompt you to download 2 patches. Patch 1 first obviously and then the 2nd.

Technically speaking if they had like 50 patches, when you put the game in, you would download all 50.
 
# 416 gjb01 @ 09/01/08 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by kyser01
Two major Problems... ROBO QB, and the LB's leaping 12ft in the air to knock down a pass they cant see. How unrealistic is that! Dont you think that would take away from the enjoyment of the game! Unbelievable! So everbodys Peyton Manning and eveyones Champ Bailey. I repeat fix these two issues! PLEASE!!!!!!
OMG - leaping linebackers is the single biggest reason I stopped playing '08 and refuse to get '09 - played the demo and saw leaping linebackers and nearly tossed my controller out the window.

Maybe if the DLC makes it I'd consider '09, but really, man, how low has Madden sunk since just a few short years ago?
 
# 417 nookiebear @ 09/01/08 07:38 PM
OK, from doing a search Ian does mention freezing but it's a bit vague

Ian, are you getting rid of all the freezing? Franchise and in-game freezing? Or just franchise freezing?

And what about ghost wide receivers?
 
# 418 grismosw @ 09/01/08 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by xV3L0CiTY
Yeah, you'll get the first patch. It will just prompt you to download 2 patches. Patch 1 first obviously and then the 2nd.

Technically speaking if they had like 50 patches, when you put the game in, you would download all 50.
The game will go from say 1.0 to 1.1 with the first patch, and 1.1 to 1.2 with the 2nd patch. When you put the game in, it will prompt you to update your version to 1.2

This is the way it was with NCAA anyway.
 
# 419 xV3L0CiTY @ 09/01/08 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by ravens52bears54
Are you sure about hat? I always thought that the most recent patch includes the code form all previous patches with it?
Quote:
Originally Posted by grismosw
The game will go from say 1.0 to 1.1 with the first patch, and 1.1 to 1.2 with the 2nd patch. When you put the game in, it will prompt you to update your version to 1.2

This is the way it was with NCAA anyway.
Yeah sorry I might have "mis-typed" that.

My point is you will get both patches whether it's from 1 download (2+ patches combined into one download), or it's separate downloads, you will get every patch ever released for the game.

Not sure if they are combined or not, as I've always downloaded the patches when released. Either way, yes, you'll get all the patches.
 
# 420 Spanky @ 09/01/08 09:24 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by LosWorld
You'll find your answer in the original post.

We have too many people on this board who are like my wife...she calls for help before seeking the answer herself. I will now refer to you all as "she".
Quit pretending you're married. It's OK to admit you're a 17-year-old kid living in your stepmom's basement.
 


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