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E3 2013: NBA Live 14 Hands-On

If you remembered last year, NBA Live 13 was the game I was most excited about seeing at E3 2012. Well, we all know how well that worked out for basketball gamers, as the title was cancelled before it ever came to market.

This year things are looking up, and the reason for that is called BounceTek. BounceTek is the new physics-based dribbling system implemented into the game, which was showcased in some hands-on action with Kyrie Irving. This dribbling system seems to be borrowed from the old (defunct) NBA Elite which never made it to market either. Elite promised a new way of basketball starting with the dribbling system, one must think a lot of that old philosophy still stands with Live 14.

While it was unfortunate that we didn't see any 5-on-5 action, at least they showed something worthwhile.

In previous NBA Live iterations the ball position was hard coded in every animation, so when you changed direction the ball sort of glided and floated along with you. Nobody wants the ball to magically float from one hand to the other. In fact, they have added over 1,000 animations to get the basic movements of the player correct, and even more when you add signature dribble animations. Yes, signature dribbles. They will also have signature shots.

There are quite a few layers to the dribbling system, below are just some of the examples:

Flick up - In and out
Flick down - Behind the back
Flick right - Hesitation
Flick left - Crossover
135 degrees (lower left) - Between the legs

You can also chain the dribble moves together. For example, to perform a hesitation crossover you would simply flick the right stick to the right, then to the left. By holding down on the L1 button and flicking the right stick in different directions, you will get a signature dribbling animation. I easily performed the UTEP two-step with Irving by holding the L1 button and flicking the right stick to the right. Remember the crossover he put on Brandon Knight during All-Star Weekend? He actually did that move 25 times before it happened, which was tracked by Synergy. You can perform it by holding the L1 button and flicking the right stick to the lower left.

The cool thing about Synergy is that if a player starts using a certain signature dribble in real life, it can easily be implemented into the game. If Damian Lillard starts using a new dribble in the middle of the season and Synergy picks up on it, you can bet it will be added. They won't just throw in animations either. If it tracks well on Synergy, you can be sure to see it added in the players dribbling arsenal. However, don't expect to use your BounceTek dribbling skills without a penalty. Your stamina will take a hit when using them, so make sure to use it wisely as you won't always be successful when you are low on energy.

While playing around, I noticed the gathers were not always smooth, but the EA folks in the booth were aware of it. The net has physics. I saw quite a few realistic ones, but others looked odd, almost as if it should have been an all net swish and the ball sort of hung in the net a little longer than it should have.

They showed Irving's face in the background, talking. It looked almost exactly like him.

I saw virtually no sliding. The only time I really saw it was when I went up for a dunk or layup. It didn't happen every time, but I did see it. I didn't see any sliding when performing the various dribble moves. NONE.

We were told Steve Nash has a pocket hesitation, he's slower and reacts differently, Derrick Rose has his herky-jerky animations, Brandon Jennings has his bouncy style, Melo has a stutter step and when the Knicks play in Boston, the crowd chants Honey Nut Cheerios. (I'm joking).

Defender reactions will be different as well. Facing off with Steve Blake will be a lot easier than facing Rajon Rondo, for example. If Irving gets a pick-and-roll switch, it's curtains for that defender.

A few more notes on Synergy: Don't get used to the way a player is guarding you. They can and will change their tactics on various possessions. Player accessories will change on a game-by-game basis, so there is no need to worry about that. I can't get into the specifics, but it should make a lot of people happy.

I was told that Synergy will update on an hourly basis during the season, so everything from accessories to ratings will change as the players in the real league change.

There were a few things that I can't talk about right now that were mentioned to me. If it isn't all talk, we could be in for a treat this year as basketball fans.

For now, we have to wait with the rest of you to see how NBA Live 14 comes along. There are still some cruicial tests to be passed, such as seeing some 5-on-5 action and what else the game is bringing to the table.


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Member Comments
# 61 champsbasketball @ 06/12/13 09:37 PM
Thanks, I really hope that we have to great basketball games from now on.
 
# 62 BiggD @ 06/12/13 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by e_QUAY_tion
To me, in my opinion. BounceTek, from what they are telling us, SEEMS to be different specifically because of the physics they say they are putting behind it.

Only time will tell though, I'm just telling my personal thoughts.
I agree, it sounds completely different and not just a catch phrase
 
# 63 23 @ 06/12/13 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by e_QUAY_tion
To me, in my opinion. BounceTek, from what they are telling us, SEEMS to be different specifically because of the physics they say they are putting behind it.

Only time will tell though, I'm just telling my personal thoughts.


Time told the lengths that people go through to defend a videogame no matter what it takes. SMH
 
# 64 Ajknowsit @ 06/12/13 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by 23
Time told the lengths that people go through to defend a videogame no matter what it takes. SMH
LOL, talk about the pot calling the kettle black, the lengths people will go to trash a video game...smh
 
# 65 thedream2k13 @ 06/12/13 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by 23
Time told the lengths that people go through to defend a videogame no matter what it takes. SMH
With all respect u do go out of your way to discredit EA in every post. They are trying to get back to their glory days which will take a while
 
# 66 A_New_Classic @ 06/12/13 10:09 PM
People acting like "signature dribbles" dont exist....what the heck? Anybody ever watch Tim Hardaway or Allen Iverson play? Lol

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# 67 Jay Jay @ 06/12/13 10:19 PM
If everbody ignored him then he wouldn't have no one but the same soldiers that share the same hate as him.
 
# 68 23 @ 06/12/13 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Ajknowsit
LOL, talk about the pot calling the kettle black, the lengths people will go to trash a video game...smh
This wasnt even about a videogame

As you can see he's banned, and for good reason, and he's not the only one

He knows exactly what im talking about.
 
# 69 23 @ 06/12/13 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Jay Jay
If everbody ignored him then he wouldn't have no one but the same soldiers that share the same hate as him.
I remember you. You were in the Live 13 thread defending them with other guys who ended up banned and EA cancelled the game. I remember you very well.

I'd like to suggest that you stop trying to incite other posters real quick as well, because you are toeing the line of the TOS yourself.
 
# 70 VDusen04 @ 06/12/13 10:41 PM
This thread is an absolute mess. That aside, my favorite portion of the hands-on was the mention of frequent accessory updates. I admit I'm a sucker for reflecting real life in a very detailed fashion so if done correctly, I'm hopeful legit accessory updates are an aspect that could be added to all sports games at some point.
 
# 71 Ajknowsit @ 06/12/13 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by 23
This wasnt even about a videogame

As you can see he's banned, and for good reason, and he's not the only one

He knows exactly what im talking about.
That's fine, but we got some positive feedback from e3 on live for the first time in years and you keep trying to step on their throat every chance you get, I want to hold out hope live comes out strong and gives something on next gen along with 2k.

But your hate for EA is strong, mine too, I don't like the way they do business, but I've liked live game's in the past and I won't it back in the game, I won't to have a choice... Live or 2k.
 
# 72 23 @ 06/12/13 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by VDusen04
This thread is an absolute mess. That aside, my favorite portion of the hands-on was the mention of frequent accessory updates. I admit I'm a sucker for reflecting real life in a very detailed fashion so if done correctly, I'm hopeful that's an aspect that could be added to all sports games at some point.
Agreed... I guess it wasnt as big of an issue as it was in the past but as I mentioned earlier, that Live 365 feature was fantastic while it lasted. If they can pick that back up and take it even further it would be something nice to improve upon.
 
# 73 23 @ 06/12/13 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Ajknowsit
That's fine, but we got some positive feedback from e3 on live for the first time in years and you keep trying to step on their throat every chance you get, I want to hold out hope live comes out strong and gives something on next gen along with 2k.

But your hate for EA is strong, mine too, I don't like the way they do business, but I've liked live game's in the past and I won't it back in the game, I won't to have a choice... Live or 2k.

Listen to me bruh... I have an opinion just like you do. This company has been nothing but a complete FAIL telling lie after lie. They screwed over ALOT of people here in the past selling a broken game and never giving them their money back after not patching it, not even a word.

The devs came here and posted then disappeared along with all the hype, and this same thing happens every single year.

Now, people are tired of the same old marketing tricks and buzzwords. Until EA shows something, thats not going to win anybody over. Its people here who will tell EA whatever they do is cool. IMO those are the ones who dont care about the game.... because they'll never do anything as long as you have a bunch of butt kissers.

Im not smashing on the dribbling. Im saying show me in action, I dont want to hear empty promises anymore. Apparently its always the guys who havent been here long that want to argue and take them at face value no matter what.


Do you realize we used to have 6 basketball games, and the reason we only have 1 now is because EA decided to completely everything people were saying to them for years? They alienated their own fanbase and went as far as putting a hockeyguy in the mix and decided to pimp the dribbling when nobody had an issue with the control because it was the one thing they had right.

I see a couple of the same dudes who defended Live 13 til the day it was cancelled then they ducked out of here like tail tucked chiwawas and had nothing to say.

My point is, lets see it, no more tech demos, no more articles of what you're doing with tech, no more buzzwords. There has not been any other company that had this much time to plan on what should be a yearly release game... Lets see it... until then people are going to be skeptical.

Sure we all want a great game, don't believe the people who use words like "hate" as if that invalidates people's positions. Its been past time to put up or shut up. Nothing has come since 2009. How much more time do they need?

BTW, im not here to argue nor am i trying to be negative, Im just ready to see them put their money where their mouth is. We've seen the dribble speil before. Lets see something else now.
 
# 74 stillfeelme @ 06/12/13 11:16 PM
My opinion "BounceTek" is signature dribbling added with some physics behind it so you can't perform some moves together that shouldn't be possible, which would make the game unrealistic lastly they seem to customize as the season goes. Elite 11 had some clunky looking dribbling moves. Synergy is known for actual stat tracking but they track video as well. So when he says "Synergy shows Kyrie did that move 25 times..." He really means there is video evidence that Synergy has that Kyrie perfomed that move before x times. Synergy just did all the editing for them basically.

I will also say this we should expect in 2013 signature dribble moves to be a standard now for all consoles and next gen. Rose shouldn't have the same cross as Rondo or as Dwill etc. Melo's hesitation is different than others etc.
 
# 75 Ajknowsit @ 06/12/13 11:19 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by 23
Listen to me bruh... I have an opinion just like you do. This company has been nothing but a complete FAIL telling lie after lie. They screwed over ALOT of people here in the past selling a broken game and never giving them their money back after not patching it, not even a word.

The devs came here and posted then disappeared along with all the hype, and this same thing happens every single year.

Now, people are tired of the same old marketing tricks and buzzwords. Until EA shows something, thats not going to win anybody over. Its people here who will tell EA whatever they do is cool. IMO those are the ones who dont care about the game.... because they'll never do anything as long as you have a bunch of butt kissers.

Im not smashing on the dribbling. Im saying show me in action, I dont want to hear empty promises anymore. Apparently its always the guys who havent been here long that want to argue and take them at face value no matter what.


Do you realize we used to have 6 basketball games, and the reason we only have 1 now is because EA decided to completely everything people were saying to them for years? They alienated their own fanbase and went as far as putting a hockeyguy in the mix and decided to pimp the dribbling when nobody had an issue with the control because it was the one thing they had right.

I see a couple of the same dudes who defended Live 13 til the day it was cancelled then they ducked out of here like tail tucked chiwawas and had nothing to say.

My point is, lets see it, no more tech demos, no more articles of what you're doing with tech, no more buzzwords. There has not been any other company that had this much time to plan on what should be a yearly release game... Lets see it... until then people are going to be skeptical.

Sure we all want a great game, don't believe the people who use words like "hate" as if that invalidates people's positions. Its been past time to put up or shut up. Nothing has come since 2009. How much more time do they need?

BTW, im not here to argue nor am i trying to be negative, Im just ready to see them put their money where their mouth is. We've seen the dribble speil before. Lets see something else now.
And I agree with you, as a matter of fact a lot of what you said in this post is what grinds my nerves on the 2k forums, people blindly following and praising them for a product that I see with many flaws and 2k doing the same pr bs, just their take on the way they go about it.

And yes I remember the days we had alot more choices, I remember when double dribble came out, I was in heaven... don't laugh. But anyway I agree stop the sales pitch and show me something.The guy's at e3 seemed optimistic for live, so all I can do is hope EA can deliver and give me hard choice this fall.
 
# 76 ccoaxum @ 06/12/13 11:20 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by 23
Listen to me bruh... I have an opinion just like you do. This company has been nothing but a complete FAIL telling lie after lie. They screwed over ALOT of people here in the past selling a broken game and never giving them their money back after not patching it, not even a word.

The devs came here and posted then disappeared along with all the hype, and this same thing happens every single year.

Now, people are tired of the same old marketing tricks and buzzwords. Until EA shows something, thats not going to win anybody over. Its people here who will tell EA whatever they do is cool. IMO those are the ones who dont care about the game.... because they'll never do anything as long as you have a bunch of butt kissers.

Im not smashing on the dribbling. Im saying show me in action, I dont want to hear empty promises anymore. Apparently its always the guys who havent been here long that want to argue and take them at face value no matter what.


Do you realize we used to have 6 basketball games, and the reason we only have 1 now is because EA decided to completely everything people were saying to them for years? They alienated their own fanbase and went as far as putting a hockeyguy in the mix and decided to pimp the dribbling when nobody had an issue with the control because it was the one thing they had right.

I see a couple of the same dudes who defended Live 13 til the day it was cancelled then they ducked out of here like tail tucked chiwawas and had nothing to say.

My point is, lets see it, no more tech demos, no more articles of what you're doing with tech, no more buzzwords. There has not been any other company that had this much time to plan on what should be a yearly release game... Lets see it... until then people are going to be skeptical.

Sure we all want a great game, don't believe the people who use words like "hate" as if that invalidates people's positions. Its been past time to put up or shut up. Nothing has come since 2009. How much more time do they need?

BTW, im not here to argue nor am i trying to be negative, Im just ready to see them put their money where their mouth is. We've seen the dribble speil before. Lets see something else now.
im ready to see more, and i'm open minded until its time for the game to actually come out...everyone got their own mind and its clear some ppl made their mind up about Live before the game even got a chance to hit the stores...plain and simple...reasons why is very understandable...i find it funny how we have the same arguments every time lol..man EA need to give us our lives back!
 
# 77 Jay Jay @ 06/12/13 11:28 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by 23
I remember you. You were in the Live 13 thread defending them with other guys who ended up banned and EA cancelled the game. I remember you very well.

I'd like to suggest that you stop trying to incite other posters real quick as well, because you are toeing the line of the TOS yourself.
I wouldn't even care so bann me...
 
# 78 bmgoff11 @ 06/12/13 11:36 PM
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Originally Posted by 23
I have honestly NEVER heard of "signature dribble" EVER IN MY LIFE watching basketball.

Is this some kind of a joke?
i think they are referring to the style of how players dribble, so just like how players have their own shots they have their own way of dribbling. idk if they can actually capture that but it is kind of like live 10(if u can remember that game) how players had their own size up moves.
 
# 79 TUSS11 @ 06/12/13 11:44 PM
It appears that the Live forums are still a breeding-ground for irrationality. Obviously dribbling isn't all there is to basketball, but to discredit the positive points of Steve's impressions as nothing but hype suggests favoritism.

If this bounceTek thing resembles dribbling in FIFA (where the ball is accessible/tangible to all players at all times) then this is good news. I also like how there was no sliding while the player dribbled. Foot-planting has been much needed in basketball games. But the best part out of all this is that there was no mention of robotic movements. Finally there's some hope.

I can't wait to see 5-on-5 gameplay. But the fact that the Live team is comparing themselves to the Cleveland Cavaliers is a bit concerning. If Kyrie represents the new dribble system, I'm hoping their 5-on-5 gameplay is comparable to Dion Waiters and not Nerlens "Not in service" Noel.

I'll be waiting patiently...
 
# 80 oMarcus2Ko @ 06/13/13 12:14 AM
EA has to be real careful on how they approach this years game, They need to come with a more humble attitude and stop thinking that their game stomps everyones elses out. they need to take each step little by little and make sure they bring their A-Game
 


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