MLB The Show 17 News Post

MLB Network Presentation Confirmed For MLB The Show 17

09:55 AM - February 17, 2017 by Sip_16

The Game Informer Show has posted some new MLB The Show 17 video footage confirming MLB Network presentation. We will see and hear more about it during the Twitch stream on March 2.

Check it out and post your thoughts.

UPDATE: The video has been pulled, but you can see a screenshot from it above.

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# 201 Caulfield @ 02/21/17 08:01 PM

I wouldnt mind it if, come April 1, Ken Harrelson and Tim McCarver were announced as next years commentary team.

# 202 vegasmike @ 02/25/17 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Chad0034


	I noticed in this video or another gamespot video, there was Inside Edge saying (4-8 against Arietta)...Hoping that we get cool presented statistics on more moments like that.

it would be cool if this was dynamic as the season goes along?

# 203 Jon Arbuckle @ 02/25/17 11:17 PM

MLB Network graphics will be great. Anything to make the game look more like a TV broadcast AFAIC. But the color commentary is irrelevant to me. It's bound to repeat and become irritating quite quickly regardless of how good the delivery/writing is. I'd personally love a 'solo booth' option that eliminated any lines delivered to the color guys and an emphasis on improving the PBP.

Vasgersian is fine in general and honestly quite good in a solo booth when you mute the other guys but I would be beyond thrilled to have Vin Scully come in and record lines for a solo booth mode. Hey, he's got the free time now, right?

Or they could just go through his half century of game calls and just record all the dialogue they need from that.

# 204 Blzer @ 02/25/17 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Jon Arbuckle


	Vasgersian is fine in general and honestly quite good in a solo booth when you mute the other guys but I would be beyond thrilled to have Vin Scully come in and record lines for a solo booth mode. Hey, he's got the free time now, right? Or they could just go through his half century of game calls and just record all the dialogue they need from that.

For Vin Scully, pick up a PSX and play any of the older versions of the game when 989 was running things.

Not that this is what makes Vasgersian better in person, but calls like these are completely absent from the game, and I do wish there would be a little more feeling of spontaneity/excitement depending on the situation:

# 205 Caulfield @ 02/26/17 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Jon Arbuckle


	Vasgersian is fine in general and honestly quite good in a solo booth when you mute the other guys but I would be beyond thrilled to have Vin Scully come in and record lines for a solo booth mode. Hey, he's got the free time now, right? Or they could just go through his half century of game calls and just record all the dialogue they need from that.

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Originally Posted by Blzer


	For Vin Scully, pick up a PSX and play any of the older versions of the game when 989 was running things. Not that this is what makes Vasgersian better in person, but calls like these are completely absent from the game, and I do wish there would be a little more feeling of spontaneity/excitement depending on the situation:

I think instead of having whoever does the PBP, rather than have them come in a read some prefabricated lines, it would be better to sift and lift through whatever games they called IRL and put those lines in game. This would be more difficult and sony would probably also have to pay whoever owned the broadcast rights to said PBP (or sony could compensate them with free in-game adverts) but it could potentially be far more rewarding than fake commentary.
You might even get better commentary culling from Vasgersians XFL, poker, UFC and Olympic stuff than most of the phoney-baloney he currently "reads". Santa Maria!

# 206 bcruise @ 02/26/17 02:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Caulfield


	I think instead of having whoever does the PBP, rather than have them come in a read some prefabricated lines, it would be better to sift and lift through whatever games they called IRL and put those lines in game. This would be more difficult and sony would probably also have to pay whoever owned the broadcast rights to said PBP (or sony could compensate them with free in-game adverts) but it could potentially be far more rewarding than fake commentary. You might even get better commentary culling from Vasgersians XFL, poker, UFC and Olympic stuff than most of the phoney-baloney he currently "reads". Santa Maria!

I'm not going to try to claim I know more about audio recording than I do (which isn't much). But I believe the studios invest in those recording booths for a reason. When all the sound is recorded in the same place you control the acoustics, and everything comes out at a consistent volume/tone/pitch. When you start pulling pre-recorded lines from other sources you have no idea what the conditions were for those recordings. I'd imagine MLB broadcast booths have very different acoustics from SCEA's studio recording booth.

Anyway, what I'm getting at is that the lines aren't going to sound consistent if you pull them from different sources, even if it's the same person's voice. And trying to normalize audio from a bunch of different sources would probably require far more development time than it would be worth.

And that's just for basic PBP, describing events as they happen on the field. I don't even want to think about splicing in player names in an environment like that.

# 207 batflip666 @ 02/26/17 02:53 AM

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Originally Posted by El_MaYiMbE


	Nice find!....MLB Network! They switched to another game that did not have it, so maybe it is only active for like the game of the week or its a selectable package?

Saw a rumor that theres more then 1 presentation option this year so it would be easy for them to go into options and select another score box.

We'll know for sure Monday I think.

# 208 bcruise @ 02/26/17 03:00 AM

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Originally Posted by batflip666


	Saw a rumor that theres more then 1 presentation option this year so it would be easy for them to go into options and select another score box. We'll know for sure Monday I think.

That's no rumor - they actually went through and changed it on stream (had to because it was set on MLB Network by default, before they wanted to reveal it). There were actually multiple (3) presentation styles last year too, although you couldn't choose - they were based on the home team market size, I believe.

Time will tell whether it's a selectable option this year (for both play now and franchise) - It was there in the menu but that's no guarantee it isn't a special dev option.

I suspect we'll find out for sure on this next week - perhaps as early as Monday with the Gamestop video centering around presentation.

# 209 Trackball @ 02/26/17 04:55 AM

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Originally Posted by SchwarBear12


	Actually I wouldn't turn off commentary if that were the case. It would be so brutal to listen, it'd be like a glorious trainwreck. Fans could create a drinking game based off of how many times someone's 99 Create-a-player in DD gets a "He Gone" or McCarver botches analysis, that the entire community would stay a flat '0' because we'd all be s**t-faced drunk and passed out by the 3rd inning.

Imagine if Sony San Diego somehow got a hold of the old NFL Blitz commentary team.
I know that will never, ever happen (different employers, for one thing), but MAN I miss that hilarious commentary.
Seriously, the best in the history of sports video games. Have a listen to the 2001 release--I think the 2003 version was the best commentary, but that's not on YouTube.

# 210 Blzer @ 02/26/17 05:53 AM

^ I only got a minute into it (trust me, I could hear the whole thing if I wanted to), but just a minute in a point that I wanted to make that not a lot of games do with their writing is have multiple ways to say the same thing. I don't even mean different lines for the same outcome, I mean literally the same line but with different inflection. Many different "What was he thinking??" and "What a disaster!" lines there that just repeat themselves, but they are all different takes.

That certainly aids in the variety. You don't need to have all unique verbage each time, otherwise that really does start to wear on you. You can have both kinds of things, though: varietal ways of saying a line, and varietal lines for the same result. I wish they did that in ESPN NFL 2K5, where bringing a kickoff out of the end zone near the 20 yard line didn't prompt the same two lines about "not really paying off" and "tearing a page out of War & Peace." Ah well, I guess there is only so much memory a game can hold.

Anyway, if we wanted to do something that is slightly more relevant, we could have pointed to SlugFest.

# 211 Caulfield @ 02/26/17 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by bcruise


	I'm not going to try to claim I know more about audio recording than I do (which isn't much). But I believe the studios invest in those recording booths for a reason. When all the sound is recorded in the same place you control the acoustics, and everything comes out at a consistent volume/tone/pitch. When you start pulling pre-recorded lines from other sources you have no idea what the conditions were for those recordings. I'd imagine MLB broadcast booths have very different acoustics from SCEA's studio recording booth. Anyway, what I'm getting at is that the lines aren't going to sound consistent if you pull them from different sources, even if it's the same person's voice. And trying to normalize audio from a bunch of different sources would probably require far more development time than it would be worth. And that's just for basic PBP, describing events as they happen on the field. I don't even want to think about splicing in player names in an environment like that.

Yeah, thats a major sticking point. Instead of reading lines sony gives them, sony ought to ask Vasgersian to reread some of his actual PBP from IRL. There's no reason to get excited about reading a players stat line or a call on a strike one or ball one, but the Show has plenty other moments where they need the real Matty V. and not what they get presently.
But then, maybe after 10+ years with the Show, he's growing tired of it. And its not like when he first started doing the Show, he was in San Diego. He's partially moved on, maybe it'stime he completely moved on.

# 212 Culture Rot @ 02/26/17 09:43 AM

I genuinely did not know Matt V was capable of excitement until hearing him commentate in real life

# 213 aguero90 @ 02/26/17 10:02 AM

What they need to tell him flat out is, "you need to do it just as if you're doing it on mlbn!" Maybe it's a mental block, where he can't get into it unless he's doing a real game, if that's the case, then we're in trouble. But when you really think about it, there's no excuse for that, he's a professional, and if he can't "voice act" the right way, he shouldn't be doing a video game, not in this generation of games. It's not hard to do on demand exciting pbp, if I can do it, he as his real life job should be able to do it. Harsh I know, but true. Hopefully on Thursday, we hear some good pbp!

# 214 jb12780 @ 02/26/17 10:14 AM

SANTA MARIA!!!!

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# 215 Maxwhite14 @ 02/26/17 10:32 AM

I didn't know he was the size of a leprechaun,dude is small lol
Walked by him at game 5 of the WS and wondered if he carried a pot of gold with him.

# 216 Syce @ 02/26/17 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by aguero90


	What they need to tell him flat out is, "you need to do it just as if you're doing it on mlbn!" Maybe it's a mental block, where he can't get into it unless he's doing a real game, if that's the case, then we're in trouble. But when you really think about it, there's no excuse for that, he's a professional, and if he can't "voice act" the right way, he shouldn't be doing a video game, not in this generation of games. It's not hard to do on demand exciting pbp, if I can do it, he as his real life job should be able to do it. Harsh I know, but true. Hopefully on Thursday, we hear some good pbp!

he should take a page out of the pbp guys in NBA, when someone dunks or something they will get really excited about it.

# 217 dran1984 @ 02/26/17 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by aguero90


	What they need to tell him flat out is, "you need to do it just as if you're doing it on mlbn!" Maybe it's a mental block, where he can't get into it unless he's doing a real game, if that's the case, then we're in trouble. But when you really think about it, there's no excuse for that, he's a professional, and if he can't "voice act" the right way, he shouldn't be doing a video game, not in this generation of games. It's not hard to do on demand exciting pbp, if I can do it, he as his real life job should be able to do it. Harsh I know, but true. Hopefully on Thursday, we hear some good pbp!

Not true, just your opinion. There are many different factors in play with why the audio is off in the game. To put it on one person's ability to "voice act" is just ridiculous. Watching live action develop in front of you and reading lines from a script in a studio are two completely different things.

Like you said, he's a professional and he has done play-by-play for years. They don't re-record his lines every year so most of the lines that are in the game aren't going to be taken out or redone. There is only so much they can do with commentary at this point aside from ripping everything out and starting from scratch.

One of the big issues is that they should all record in the same studio together which is 100% correct. At this point though, if you that introduce commentary with all of the current commentary it would sound a mess due to different acoustics and such.

The people in charge of the audio are professionals too. They know the commentary is lacking, I'm also sure that we don't come up with any ideas on here that they haven't thought about or discussed already.

They have already said Matt V isn't going anywhere but year after year its the same discussion. At this point it is what it is and until the gut the commentary and start over we will have the same complaints.

# 218 aguero90 @ 02/26/17 08:36 PM

With all do respect, I have to disagree with you completely. It is his lack of ability to voice act, not the script. I'm not talking about repeat lines, I'm talking about the lack of excitement in his voice. I can sit here and say the exact lines he does, but make them much more exciting, with different inflections and such. Maybe it's a visual thing? What I mean is, since I can't see that good, and don't know what it's like to do live action, that's the reason I'm able to look at nothing and do exciting pbp, where as he's visual, he knows what it's supposed to look like as he's doing real pbp, so when he's recording, he can't just "do it." It really could be that simple, look at Kevin Harlin, Jon Miller, Garry Thorn, what do they all have in common? good "on demand voice actors." Consiquently, all good in their respective video games.

# 219 dran1984 @ 02/26/17 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by aguero90


	With all do respect, I have to disagree with you completely. It is his lack of ability to voice act, not the script. I'm not talking about repeat lines, I'm talking about the lack of excitement in his voice. I can sit here and say the exact lines he does, but make them much more exciting, with different inflections and such. Maybe it's a visual thing? What I mean is, since I can't see that good, and don't know what it's like to do live action, that's the reason I'm able to look at nothing and do exciting pbp, where as he's visual, he knows what it's supposed to look like as he's doing real pbp, so when he's recording, he can't just "do it." It really could be that simple, look at Kevin Harlin, Jon Miller, Garry Thorn, what do they all have in common? good "on demand voice actors." Consiquently, all good in their respective video games.

I would be interested to find out what context the companies provide when they record. Do they provide visuals of actual plays? Do they all record lines together so they feed off of each others energy? There is a lot that we don't know about the process. Maybe it comes down to personality. Being an Orioles fan, I love listening to Gary Thorne. He's not the most accurate PBP guy but he has personality and provides entertainment. Point being, it's possible different personalities translate different results. Matt tends to have a more laid back personality.

But until we know the details of how they do the recording sessions it's impossible to accurately come to a conclusion.

# 220 RunRickyRun24 @ 02/26/17 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by aguero90


	With all do respect, I have to disagree with you completely. It is his lack of ability to voice act, not the script. I'm not talking about repeat lines, I'm talking about the lack of excitement in his voice. I can sit here and say the exact lines he does, but make them much more exciting, with different inflections and such. Maybe it's a visual thing? What I mean is, since I can't see that good, and don't know what it's like to do live action, that's the reason I'm able to look at nothing and do exciting pbp, where as he's visual, he knows what it's supposed to look like as he's doing real pbp, so when he's recording, he can't just "do it." It really could be that simple, look at Kevin Harlin, Jon Miller, Garry Thorn, what do they all have in common? good "on demand voice actors." Consiquently, all good in their respective video games.

I totally agree with you. Funny but I was watching the 30 for 30 on the XLF a few weeks ago and Matt was doing pbp. Not sure if u know but it was a football league Vince McMahon tried to start up in the early 2000s. Vince actually said that he wasn't entertaining enough/vibrant enough so he replaced him in the prime time game with Jim Ross (long time wwf broadcaster) and but him on the less marquee game.

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