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The PES 2017 demo is available now for Xbox One users, weighing in at 3.3 GB. Queue it up right here.

UPDATE: The demo is now available on PlayStation 3 and PlayStation 4.

Play a few matches and post your impressions!

Control Reality in Pro Evolution Soccer 2017 with the demo, and experience these new gameplay features:
  • Real Touch – Players control the ball in unique ways based on where and how you control them
  • Authentic Visuals – Player models, lighting, crowds, pitch and stadiums totally revamped
  • Adaptive AI – For the first time in a football game, the AI will learn how you play and adapt accordingly
  • Natural Player Movement – Hundreds of new animations have been added to bring the players to life
  • Goalkeepers – Keepers see a great jump in their quality, through added motions and animations

Game: PES 2017Hype Score: 9/10 - Vote Now
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Member Comments
# 121 nunogomes @ 08/25/16 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Gnemi
I played the PES 16 demo for exactly three minutes, then uninstalled it.

Last night, I played PES 17 for almost two hours before my wife got pissed. Otherwise, I would have played longer.

The presentation is vastly inferior to FIFA and having no commentator makes the atmosphere feel somewhat lifeless, yet...the actual 22 on the pitch make the game feel incredibly alive, bristling with energy and gravitas.

Electronic Arts have officially been put on notice by Konami. I was really enjoying my last FIFA 16 career season but don't even want to play it now. FIFA 17 will have to really impress me with its gameplay, particularly ball physics, for me to bother with it.

My single most favorite aspects of PES 17 so far: when I swap wings with a lofted cross, the ball actually moves with pace and curve instead of a giant lofted beach ball pass. When a keeper or defender deflects the ball, it looks like it actually made an impact on the player instead of looking like it hit a brick.

Admittedly, I haven't even looked at the FIFA 17 gameplay videos because pre-release videos are typically trash.

This is also the first time since PES 11 that I'm intrigued to give Konami a shot.
Donīt expect much in the commentary department, itīs probably very similar to last year and it was only passable last year.

FIFA is miles ahead on that aspect.

But the gameplay really makes up for it.
 
# 122 Gnemi @ 08/25/16 03:11 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by nunogomes
Donīt expect much in the commentary department, itīs probably very similar to last year and it was only passable last year.

FIFA is miles ahead on that aspect.

But the gameplay really makes up for it.
Yeah, and you know what it reminded me of?

When you watch NBC coverage of the EPL, they occasionally offer what's called a Tactics cam where you can't hear commentary and you only get to see the game and hear the crowd.

If you know how I feel about Tactics cam, that's pretty much the highest compliment I could possibly pay to PES 17.
 
# 123 JimmyDeicide @ 08/25/16 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Qb

Personally, if it's more of an either/or, I find a game where the final third is more compact more compelling than one where if you break through midfield you're in behind the defense (speaking in very general terms). For instance, I started playing FIFA with a low line height and length (30/40) because I don't find much enjoyment in the majority of the game being a scramble at the back with attackers running at the defensive line.

Of course, ideally the balance is there where teams sensibly and tactically defend high or deep based on team style and game situation. And the automatic sprinting back isn't the right way for teams to get back, so obviously that should be sorted, too.






At first I thought I was just that dumb, but it seems like a lot of tactics options are unavailable. I can't even figure out how to change my formation.
My only problem with this whole thing is if it cant be remedied the game is going to feel like fifa where all the teams play the same . You wont get the counter attacks like you should or enough long stuff happening because there is always 5 guys back . Your centre forward is always on an island right now.
 
# 124 papinho81 @ 08/25/16 03:37 PM
I have not been familiar with PES universe for more than ten years now. Last years how close the demo was from the released game when it comes to gameplay? Does Konami release screwing patch a la EA along the year?

If the gameplay stay close (improved if possible) from where it is, this game is a day one purchase for me this year.
 
# 125 JimmyDeicide @ 08/25/16 03:38 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Qb

Personally, if it's more of an either/or, I find a game where the final third is more compact more compelling than one where if you break through midfield you're in behind the defense (speaking in very general terms). For instance, I started playing FIFA with a low line height and length (30/40) because I don't find much enjoyment in the majority of the game being a scramble at the back with attackers running at the defensive line.

Of course, ideally the balance is there where teams sensibly and tactically defend high or deep based on team style and game situation. And the automatic sprinting back isn't the right way for teams to get back, so obviously that should be sorted, too.






At first I thought I was just that dumb, but it seems like a lot of tactics options are unavailable. I can't even figure out how to change my formation.
My only problem with this whole thing is if it cant be remedied the game is going to feel like fifa where all the teams play the same . You wont get the counter attacks like you should or enough long stuff happening because there is always 5 guys back . Your centre forward is always on an island right now.
Its a case of get to edge of box and try to break each other down right now.
 
# 126 bwiggy33 @ 08/25/16 03:59 PM
Wow, I've only played two games and holy crap does this game feel like soccer. The ball coming off the foot, reception of passes, dribbling, long balls, low bending through balls to the box by the AI (where I don't feel cheated), and I could go on. It's a beautiful looking game as well with the player emotions and cutscenes. It's just so much more organic and "anything can happen" than the feeling I get from FIFA. Sadly with 10 minute games I can't play the style I want. I'm one of those guys that likes 15 or 20 minute halves with the ability to take my time and set things up. Hell I'd play 45 if the game was realistic enough that stats and goals were at a realistic rate.

I do have two dislikes though. Fouls is still one of them. It's only two games but I don't think the referee calls them properly and the handing out of cards seems quite poor so far. I shouldn't complain too much due to fouls being non existent the past versions. I'm used to FIFA though where fouls are done pretty well now after a couple years of having the same issue PES did. I like in FIFA that aggressive bumps are called and referees are dynamic in that they call some fouls that were nowhere near anything close to a foul. That human error element is great. I haven't seen bumps called yet in the two games I've played. Hopefully those pop up the more I play the demo.

The 2nd thing I don't like and once again it's probably because I'm used to FIFA, is the shooting. It's not how the ball is kicked by the player or anything mechanical, but it's just something about the way the ball goes through the air and also when it hits the back of the net, that I don't like. It's hard to explain but it's I guess more cosmetic than gameplay related.

I'm probably going to have to buy both games this year. Having the Premier League license in FIFA is just something that automatically sells me that game, as much as I hate to say it. Also sliders (I wish PES had them) definitely help rectify some of the issues that FIFA has. It's obviously nice being on PS4 with the editor that lets us share. That at least helps with the licensing issues a little bit. It's just sad that I can't play at the real Stamford Bridge.
 
# 127 PhiPsi1 @ 08/25/16 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Matt10
Yeah, further supports my possible intent to trade my XB1 for a PS4.
Don't you be teasin' us brotha'....
 
# 128 BL8001 @ 08/25/16 04:48 PM
weird bug.

I am upping a video now.

I powered up A on a goal kick to hit a hard low pass up the right inside of the pitch.

Instead the ball went directly left to the Barca player standing all alone who shot it into the empty goal.

So of course next goal kick I try it again and same thing.

Shame really, up until this point, about 15 min into the 1st half I was thoroughly enjoying weathering the constant barca onslaught. It was nil nil when this happened.



sample size was 20 minutes of 1 match.

After the 2nd one went in I recorded it and quit the demo and upped the vid.

*Here is what I did, I aimed slightly inside right to the target near the halfway line that would be able to receive a hard low pass. I pressed A at full power. Then watched the ball shoot off into a completely different direction.

twitted to bhatti
 
# 129 BatsBike1314 @ 08/25/16 04:50 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by bwiggy33
Wow, I've only played two games and holy crap does this game feel like soccer. The ball coming off the foot, reception of passes, dribbling, long balls, low bending through balls to the box by the AI (where I don't feel cheated), and I could go on. It's a beautiful looking game as well with the player emotions and cutscenes. It's just so much more organic and "anything can happen" than the feeling I get from FIFA. Sadly with 10 minute games I can't play the style I want. I'm one of those guys that likes 15 or 20 minute halves with the ability to take my time and set things up. Hell I'd play 45 if the game was realistic enough that stats and goals were at a realistic rate.

I do have two dislikes though. Fouls is still one of them. It's only two games but I don't think the referee calls them properly and the handing out of cards seems quite poor so far. I shouldn't complain too much due to fouls being non existent the past versions. I'm used to FIFA though where fouls are done pretty well now after a couple years of having the same issue PES did. I like in FIFA that aggressive bumps are called and referees are dynamic in that they call some fouls that were nowhere near anything close to a foul. That human error element is great. I haven't seen bumps called yet in the two games I've played. Hopefully those pop up the more I play the demo.

The 2nd thing I don't like and once again it's probably because I'm used to FIFA, is the shooting. It's not how the ball is kicked by the player or anything mechanical, but it's just something about the way the ball goes through the air and also when it hits the back of the net, that I don't like. It's hard to explain but it's I guess more cosmetic than gameplay related.

I'm probably going to have to buy both games this year. Having the Premier League license in FIFA is just something that automatically sells me that game, as much as I hate to say it. Also sliders (I wish PES had them) definitely help rectify some of the issues that FIFA has. It's obviously nice being on PS4 with the editor that lets us share. That at least helps with the licensing issues a little bit. It's just sad that I can't play at the real Stamford Bridge.
thanks for sharing your experience .. +1 for 20 minute halves .. even 45! ..
 
# 130 therizing02 @ 08/25/16 05:00 PM
All you need to do to understand how long it's been since PES was a viable option is to look at the start dates of most of the members posting in this thread...lol!

Damn...it's like OS circa 03-08!
 
# 131 BQ32 @ 08/25/16 05:12 PM
This Demo is fantastic. They have nailed the pace of play and this feels more like the sport then any other sport game I have played. Fifa has rubbed me raw the last couple of years feeling like it was a constant battle to get you players (especially defensive) to do what you want. Not to mention the back and for nausea inducing gameplay while usually feeling that goals let in were complete garbage and the game messing with your players such as running away from the threat just at the moment you need it snuffed out. This game on the other hand just feels so right. When goals are let in I am never frustrated with the game for it. Every time it has felt like either it was my fault or realistic tactics/occurences. Such a relief. I can't believe I have stuck with the other game for so long and was planning on skipping footy all together this season until this demo just rocked my world. Day one buy for me.
 
# 132 elprez98 @ 08/25/16 05:24 PM
If KG likes it, I guess I have to buy it.
 
# 133 Gnemi @ 08/25/16 05:24 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by therizing02
All you need to do to understand how long it's been since PES was a viable option is to look at the start dates of most of the members posting in this thread...lol!

Damn...it's like OS circa 03-08!
I was thinking the same. EA need to take note, though I doubt they will.

This is shaping up to be the year where EA's gimmicks - presentation, stadiums, licenses - just don't matter to me as much as fantastic football.

We'll see.
 
# 134 therizing02 @ 08/25/16 05:37 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gnemi
I was thinking the same. EA need to take note, though I doubt they will.

This is shaping up to be the year where EA's gimmicks - presentation, stadiums, licenses - just don't matter to me as much as fantastic football.

We'll see.
Definitely...read your line about last years demo. I did the same thing. I think I may have given it 4 minutes before deleting it. EA takes notes.....from the EA discussion boards. It will never be a SIM experience. It's all about Ultimate Team and online play...period. Any other discussion is to ensure not to alienate or ignore a small portion of their customer base. It seems that PES has finally started to realize what made them a viable option...gameplay. I kind of thought they went away from that for a long time. It's like they were seeing what was drawing people to FIFA and they tried to compete in that space, weren't able to do it, and finally went back to their roots and what they have always done best.

Looking forward to this one coming out. What level are you playing on?
 
# 135 half-fast @ 08/25/16 07:53 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by nunogomes
Donīt expect much in the commentary department, itīs probably very similar to last year and it was only passable last year.

FIFA is miles ahead on that aspect.

But the gameplay really makes up for it.
I thought Peter Drury did an amazing job. He gets excited in such a life-like way - was an amazing switch up imo! Jim Beglin needs to hit the bricks though. Im not a huge fan IRL either, but in the game, he's just brutal. Sometimes it sounds like hes using words and has no idea what they mean. Just boring colour commentator all around. Peter Drury is where its at!
 
# 136 Gnemi @ 08/25/16 07:57 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by therizing02
Definitely...read your line about last years demo. I did the same thing. I think I may have given it 4 minutes before deleting it. EA takes notes.....from the EA discussion boards. It will never be a SIM experience. It's all about Ultimate Team and online play...period. Any other discussion is to ensure not to alienate or ignore a small portion of their customer base. It seems that PES has finally started to realize what made them a viable option...gameplay. I kind of thought they went away from that for a long time. It's like they were seeing what was drawing people to FIFA and they tried to compete in that space, weren't able to do it, and finally went back to their roots and what they have always done best.

Looking forward to this one coming out. What level are you playing on?
Oh, good question, I was playing on Top Player.
 
# 137 Matt10 @ 08/25/16 08:03 PM
Enjoying this demo a lot. Streaming right now if you guys are bored

https://gaming.youtube.com/user/Matt10L/live
 
# 138 RoyceDa59 @ 08/25/16 08:56 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Matt10
Enjoying this demo a lot. Streaming right now if you guys are bored

https://gaming.youtube.com/user/Matt10L/live
Could this mean the return of Lam Matteo....
 
# 139 lnin0 @ 08/25/16 10:55 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by nunogomes
This seems to be a very common complaint from xbox owners, about the graphics, and it definitely sucks. I remember that when i changed from PS3 to Xbox i had the opposite feeling in multi platform games, they used to look better in Xbox, less jaggies. Guess thatīs not the case here.
It is not all games or developers but Konomi and PES are consistantly worse on Microsofts platform which is shame if PES turned out good this year.
 
# 140 KG @ 08/25/16 11:09 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Matt10
Do you mean the radar on in the replay? Because I do play with the radar on most of the time, and in that video? Sorry, just needing clarification on what needs to be best for the next video.

I love the tactics and the depth of them. Never disagreeing with their existence, if anything I want more levels (18yd box level, def 3rd level, midfield level, opp def 3rd, opp 18yd box, 6yd box?) for mentality, however that's not realistic for this PES 2017 demo, or full version.

I just want the act of the CPU running away from loose balls to go away. I want them to be hungry for them, and the remedy, simply, is either A) introducing a transition to green (medium level) or B) Modifying the intensity/adherence of each level, thus being reflective in the animations and overall attitude.

Option A, in theory, sounds ridiculously easy - which makes it that more frustrating. Imagine having just 1 more step to reach Heaven, but it isn't built yet, so you're stuck. That's what's going to happen to PES 17 if this isn't fixed, and yes - that analogy is whack .
I just re-watched it and tbh, I got it confused with you talking about how you turn the directional arrow for FKs/Corners/PKs.

I agree 100% about the need for a transition arrow. I'm thinking a gradient color arrow scale. It could even reflect in a new rating (workrate) and tie into the Track Back Player Skill.

Quote:
Originally Posted by therizing02
What settings are you guys using? I have passing at Level 1 support, Superstar, and game speed -1. Haven't won a game but I hardly feel cheated or cheesed.

Played against Barcelona as Arsenal a few times and was barely able to get a shot off playing 10min halves at Camp Nou. Felt legit though. i feel like if I had tactics available to counter the game might have played out differently.

Just curious what others are using.
I'm mostly tinkering trying to find the set so I can hit the ground running when the game starts but I've settled on

Top Player
No Pass Assistance (I think passing on Default 1 is VERY assisted)
Game Speed -1 with the odd Normal Speed game so the jump online vs buddies isn't huge

I've had a good mix of games with varying results. Dominated Atletico with Arsenal putting 3 past them. So far their favorite team to use (Brahvado is gonna kill me for this lol) is Arsenal. In terms of different type of players in PES they have everything.

Aerial/Back to goal CF - Giroud

Pace on the outside with Bellerin and Nacho running all day

Ramsey sitting deep with Coq - just shooting from distance with Ramsey and playing diagonals

Sanchez just having incredible change of direction and acceleration

Ozil just pulling the strings. Just in real life that right foot is only for standing but that left foot is crazy. Outside of the boot passes, little deft touches, he's just represented very well in PES.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Battle4MY
What camera are you guys using? Dynamic wide with some custom settings is ok but I'd love the option to see the entire width of the the pitch.

Blimp is too far zoomed out and Fan Stand doesnt quite track the pace of the game correctly.

Not a huge fan of using the radar :/
I usually just play on Dynamic Wide or Field Side but the last match I played on Player and it was a lot of fun. It's funny how a different camera angle can make like your playing a different game. I don't know if I could use it as my main camera but for a change of pace it's good. It's close up so you can every player apart visually. The players are bigger on screen so dribbling 1v1 is easier. You can actually get your shoulders in front of guys and dribble directly in front of them like Hazard. It also forces you to use the radar and trust your teammates. You'll have a split second to look at the radar before a cross BUT the camera flips A LOT so it could get disorienting quickly.


Quote:
Originally Posted by nunogomes
Donīt expect much in the commentary department, itīs probably very similar to last year and it was only passable last year.

FIFA is miles ahead on that aspect.

But the gameplay really makes up for it.
Without hearing the commentary on the retail I'd def agree. I'm not a huge Drury fan. I like his voice but can do without all the screaming but then again I love Jon Champion but admit his long pauses aren't for video games.

Quote:
Originally Posted by therizing02
All you need to do to understand how long it's been since PES was a viable option is to look at the start dates of most of the members posting in this thread...lol!

Damn...it's like OS circa 03-08!
It really is...You, Therising....El Prez,. QB!...What;s up Qbert! Matt10..It's good to have a lot of the the vets still checking in. With the vets and a lot of the new guys the PES forum has grown since the old days.

Quote:
Originally Posted by elprez98
If KG likes it, I guess I have to buy it.
My man Prez! We're working on some impressions now.

I have to drum up that goal you scored on your PES 2011 OTP debut! Blax and I still talk about it to this day lol!
 


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