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Check out the latest Madden NFL 17 screenshot, featuring Adrian Peterson. You can see the Under Armour and Adidas cleats much better here. More equipment details are coming soon.

As Clint Oldenburg and Dustin Smith have noted on Twitter, the screenshots that are released on various outlets are a WIP and equipment will get updated before launch.

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# 221 aholbert32 @ 05/23/16 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by SageInfinite
This right here could open up a BIG debate, so I think we should just get it back to the screenshots...
LOL. I'll drop it.
 
# 222 The Kid 24 @ 05/23/16 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by msdm27
Preach!
What jumps at me the most if the difference in the uniform colors. Just look nothing alike.. You can say "probably different times of the day" all you want but I find it hard to believe those are the same colors by looking at that photo vs that screen, both are daytime games at GB
EDIT: Also as I've said many times, look at the difference in sleeve length... Somehow we're still working with 70's style sleeves hope this is one of the nuggets added as far as equipment in the presentation blog
Yes!!!!

And it drives me nuts how off the Packers uniform colors are.

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# 223 SolidSquid @ 05/23/16 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Gridiron
The flaw in that concept is simple to identify by using their own historic motto:

"If it's in the game, it's in the game".

There aren't a few million ways to go, there is only one, the NFL. If it's the NFL you should be targeting to get it into the game.
There's a reason they no longer use that motto.
 
# 224 Junior Moe @ 05/23/16 05:19 PM
I'm not an equipment guy. I honestly never notice it. Occasionally, I'll change someone's shoes in 2K once they achieve "star"status. To me its more of a "little thing". But its big to others. We all pay the same 60$ and we all have different wants. On Madden, I think it's great that they (developers) are stepping in and taking fire. The community is passionate and they are standing in there taking it. The Internet is savage. OS doesnt have anything on Twitter and Facebook. Lol. I don't ever recall Madden debs this active before and that makes me even more confident, believe it or not, in the future. In some ways it feels like eh are paying for the sins of past Maddens. I get it. Most of this stuff should be in the game already. But at the same time this is a different Madden team. To me, anyway. I'd like to think that they "get it" and will work towards giving the entire community what it wants.
 
# 225 mrprice33 @ 05/23/16 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Gridiron
The flaw in that concept is simple to identify by using their own historic motto:



"If it's in the game, it's in the game".



There aren't a few million ways to go, there is only one, the NFL. If it's the NFL you should be targeting to get it into the game.


They are absolutely targeting to get it in the game. Kane himself said as much. So what's the problem, exactly?

Like, at no point has anyone from EA said "we don't care about authenticity this isn't getting in the game." They're actively working on it. They bring community people in for feedback, they've hired people from this forum to work there; it's obvious there's an effort.


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# 226 Hooe @ 05/23/16 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Gridiron
There is no hyberbole. Absolute zero. A mouthpiece is an essential piece of equipment. That is a fact. There is a reason NFL players wear them and it's not just because they think it looks cute...
Essential to an on-field football player in real life, sure. Essential to properly representing the sport of football in a video game? Not at all, I can think of literally thousands of things that are more important.

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You know that's not what I said.
You're the one calling it "essential". You just did again. In the context of a video game, no. It's absolutely not. It's a cosmetic option. That's all it is.

A virtual video game football player doesn't require a virtual mouthpiece to play virtual football. The video game has no gameplay mechanics which rely on player equipment load-outs. Every equipment option is purely cosmetic as far as the video game is concerned.

Of all the issues to take with Madden, which there are plenty, this for me is quite possibly literally at the bottom of the list. Faulting EA for choosing to leave out mouthpieces in favor of delivering other features IMO is absolutely pedantic and reeks of looking for reasons to be disappointed in the game.
 
# 227 Hooe @ 05/23/16 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by SolidSquid
There's a reason they no longer use that motto.
I could just be completely off base here, but does the current game not utter the phrase with the age-old announcer every time it boots up?
 
# 228 Cowboy008 @ 05/23/16 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by CM Hooe
I could just be completely off base here, but does the current game not utter the phrase with the age-old announcer every time it boots up?
I think it just says EA Sports now instead of EA Sports it's in the game.
 
# 229 redsox4evur @ 05/23/16 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by CM Hooe
I could just be completely off base here, but does the current game not utter the phrase with the age-old announcer every time it boots up?
Nah it doesn't I honestly don't remember hearing it since the 2005 games came out.
 
# 230 bcruise @ 05/23/16 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by CM Hooe
I could just be completely off base here, but does the current game not utter the phrase with the age-old announcer every time it boots up?
It does in 16. Says the whole thing right at startup.
 
# 231 Hooe @ 05/23/16 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by bcruise
It does in 16. Says the whole thing right at startup.
Thanks, thought I was going crazy there for a second.

In fact I think "It's In The Game" was adopted as the official slogan of Electronic Arts after it succeeded with EA Sports.

Anyway that's way off-topic. Back to equipment discussion. Apologies for side-tracking.
 
# 232 mrprice33 @ 05/23/16 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Big FN Deal
To the bold, the point I think others and I keep making time and time again about stuff like mouthpieces is, it's not a feature, it something that should just be there by now.

I see it as animated mouthpieces, meaning players take them in/out during games, chew on them, they fall to the ground, etc, that would be a feature but not just having cosmetic mouthpieces, which is what I'm referring to.
Based on what though? Serious question. If the guy who was hired specifically to work on equipment comes in the thread and tells you exactly why it's not in the game but that he wants to do it, then what reason is there for it to "just be there by now," other than a (frankly) arbitrary line of demarcation that some people have chosen to draw in the sand with regards to this game?
 
# 233 Hooe @ 05/23/16 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Big FN Deal
it's something that should just be there by now.
Whether it should be there doesn't change the fact that the thing is currently not there and also that making it so will take real man-hours to implement, and it will likely continue to not be there as long as Tiburon determines that there are more important features to deliver into the game.

Scolding the game by saying "it should be there by now" is a useless and counterproductive exercise.
 
# 234 reverend_heat @ 05/23/16 06:33 PM
I use the flipboard app on my phone, and one of the newsfeeds is NFL. The other day as I was flipping through, I noticed something, here are the pics from the first few headlines. Seemed like every pic had a player with a mouthpiece. Made me think of this discussion. I actually realy like the Madden game visuals, I just feel like accurate player likeness is an area that Madden seriously fails in, it would just be a huge step towards fixing that. The only reason I am adamant about it.













 
# 235 SageInfinite @ 05/23/16 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by CM Hooe
Whether it should be there doesn't change the fact that the thing is currently not there and also that making it so will take real man-hours to implement, and it will likely continue to not be there as long as Tiburon determines that there are more important features to deliver into the game.

Scolding the game by saying "it should be there by now" is a useless and counterproductive exercise.
If that's the case, when does it become important? They went a whole generation without them.

They went many versions of the game without really touching equipment(cleats, gloves).

Like I said it just seems like they ignore stuff until people yell loud enough.
There's always stuff they seemed to have deemed more important. Seems like scolding the game and telling them this stuff should've been changed and addressed is the only way it gets changed and addressed.
 
# 236 SolidSquid @ 05/23/16 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by reverend_heat
I use the flipboard app on my phone, and one of the newsfeeds is NFL. The other day as I was flipping through, I noticed something, here are the pics from the first few headlines. Seemed like every pic had a player with a mouthpiece. Made me think of this discussion. I actually realy like the Madden game visuals, I just feel like accurate player likeness is an area that Madden seriously fails in, it would just be a huge step towards fixing that. The only reason I am adamant about it.













Makes sense especially considering one job of a mouth guard is to protect against concussion caused by the jaw snapping together. Can't believe they aren't mandatory in the NFL but you have to cover your knees bc no one wants to see that lol
 
# 237 SolidSquid @ 05/23/16 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by CM Hooe
Essential to an on-field football player in real life, sure. Essential to properly representing the sport of football in a video game? Not at all, I can think of literally thousands of things that are more important.



You're the one calling it "essential". You just did again. In the context of a video game, no. It's absolutely not. It's a cosmetic option. That's all it is.

A virtual video game football player doesn't require a virtual mouthpiece to play virtual football. The video game has no gameplay mechanics which rely on player equipment load-outs. Every equipment option is purely cosmetic as far as the video game is concerned.

Of all the issues to take with Madden, which there are plenty, this for me is quite possibly literally at the bottom of the list. Faulting EA for choosing to leave out mouthpieces in favor of delivering other features IMO is absolutely pedantic and reeks of looking for reasons to be disappointed in the game.
Towels and hand warmers aren't essential to the game but they made a big deal out of it when they added them citing autheticity(and it still aggravates me when a towel starts clipping through players bodies lol)
 
# 238 SageInfinite @ 05/23/16 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by SolidSquid
Towels and hand warmers aren't essential to the game but they made a big deal out of it when they added them citing autheticity(and it still aggravates me when a towel starts clipping through players bodies lol)
Clipping is just a technicality we have to live with...
 
# 239 SolidSquid @ 05/23/16 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by SageInfinite
Clipping is just a technicality we have to live with...
I know, I don't harp over it it's just an eye sore
 
# 240 PVarck31 @ 05/23/16 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Big FN Deal
With "just be there by now" meaning, as some pics posted after my post demonstrate, it's a realistic general cosmetic aesthetic, that has no technical, licensing (like tattoos), etc reason for being left out, so given that how long Madden's been on these consoles, it's reasonable that it should have made the checklist by now.

To the specific point about the reason given, I already explained in my previous post, I'm not referring to animated mouthpieces, which it seems to me Kane was, I'm referring to cosmetic mouthpieces.

So let me seriously ask you, what's your general point, that they're not in so move on, no need in discussing it or having an opinion it?
I mean what more can you do? They're not in. They aren't gonna be in this year. They know we want them in. No sense harping on it forever. The horse has been beaten, there's nothing left of it.

Regardless of the reason, it's not happening this year.

So we can go two ways. We can continue to post page after page asking why they can't put them in, why they don't think they are a priority, calling devs lazy, and so on and so forth. This all leads to nonconstructive posts, and potential bans.

If you can't let it go here, then get on twitter and pester the developers to your hearts content. I'm sure you (everyone, not directed at you) will get blocked.

Or we can move on. Discuss other things, get back to a less toxic discussion.

I think its time we moved on. I think everything that can be said has been said.
 


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