Madden NFL 17 Screenshot Featuring Under Armour and Adidas

[SageInfinite]

Quote: Originally Posted by aholbert32

I dont know about that. The "suits" only care about sales. As long as the sales are up, production costs are flat or down and things like MUT are bringing in revenue, they dont really care what kind of game the Madden team puts out. The key is production costs and budget. The dev team has to decide what they want to use their limited financial resources towards.

This right here could open up a BIG debate, so I think we should just get it back to the screenshots...

[aholbert32]

Quote: Originally Posted by SageInfinite

This right here could open up a BIG debate, so I think we should just get it back to the screenshots...

LOL. I'll drop it.

[The Kid 24]

Quote: Originally Posted by msdm27

Preach! What jumps at me the most if the difference in the uniform colors. Just look nothing alike.. You can say "probably different times of the day" all you want but I find it hard to believe those are the same colors by looking at that photo vs that screen, both are daytime games at GB EDIT: Also as I've said many times, look at the difference in sleeve length... Somehow we're still working with 70's style sleeves hope this is one of the nuggets added as far as equipment in the presentation blog

Yes!!!!

And it drives me nuts how off the Packers uniform colors are.

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[Gridiron]

Quote: Originally Posted by CM Hooe

Hyperbole much?

There is no hyberbole. Absolute zero. A mouthpiece is an essential piece of equipment. That is a fact. There is a reason NFL players wear them and it's not just because they think it looks cute...

Quote: Originally Posted by CM Hooe

It's a mouthpiece. It is in no way essential to the game and you are kidding yourself if you suggest otherwise.

You know that's not what I said.

[Gridiron]

Quote: Originally Posted by mrprice33

Well yeah, they are the ones making it, no? They have to make decisions, prioritize things, etc. When we have 8 people at a community event who can't agree on what's important, I can't imagine having to do it for a few million.

The flaw in that concept is simple to identify by using their own historic motto:

"If it's in the game, it's in the game".

There aren't a few million ways to go, there is only one, the NFL. If it's the NFL you should be targeting to get it into the game.

[SolidSquid]

Quote: Originally Posted by Gridiron

The flaw in that concept is simple to identify by using their own historic motto: "If it's in the game, it's in the game". There aren't a few million ways to go, there is only one, the NFL. If it's the NFL you should be targeting to get it into the game.

There's a reason they no longer use that motto.

[Gridiron]

Quote: Originally Posted by SolidSquid

For heavens sake the "equipment obsessed" people in this forum are NOT clamoring for mouthpieces or sleeves or gloves or cleats or knee braces OVER gap play, true pocket formation, formation subs, tiered play calling, etc. This has really became a very tired excuse. Ask the devs themselves equipment guys do not work on game play and vice versa, I assume you being a software developer yourself know that.

Exactly man. A billion excuses get made for the most basic things for this game. You hear about this short dev cycle being an issue for everything, yet it was never used as an excuse for their competitors and even today you don't hear it as a thing for the other AAA sports games who have to deal with the exact same issue, but with Madden different rules somehow apply.

What they and people who make excuses for them don't see is that the mouthpiece or the arm band or this small thing or that small thing are all a symbol of a larger issue with this development: lack of attention to detail across the board in all areas of the game. That's improving some now with equipment and that's great, but it's far from where it needs to be to where the comparisons to the past are no longer valid, of course we're bad people for stating historical fact. I think we rock the space-time continuum by doing it...

[Junior Moe]

I'm not an equipment guy. I honestly never notice it. Occasionally, I'll change someone's shoes in 2K once they achieve "star"status. To me its more of a "little thing". But its big to others. We all pay the same 60$ and we all have different wants. On Madden, I think it's great that they (developers) are stepping in and taking fire. The community is passionate and they are standing in there taking it. The Internet is savage. OS doesnt have anything on Twitter and Facebook. Lol. I don't ever recall Madden debs this active before and that makes me even more confident, believe it or not, in the future. In some ways it feels like eh are paying for the sins of past Maddens. I get it. Most of this stuff should be in the game already. But at the same time this is a different Madden team. To me, anyway. I'd like to think that they "get it" and will work towards giving the entire community what it wants.