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05:01 PM - March 3, 2016 by Steve_OS

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# 181 Cowboy008 @ 03/03/16 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Drew127


	If I can offer an opinion on the GM goals... Sweep division series? Sweep LCS? I feel like all of this is an afterthought. What kind of a goal is that? What difference does it make if you sweep the division series vs. win it in 5 games? What owner would set such a random and meaningless milestone? The O's swept the DS in 2014. Then got swept in the LCS. You think the owner felt good about that? The only thing that comes to mind to describe what I saw is "afterthought".

I think Ramone talked about this in the stream but I could be completely wrong. You could complete all your GM goals and have a good GM rating but if you don't accomplish the Owners goal you could be fired.

# 182 tnixen @ 03/03/16 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by rabnothimself


	I agree, Citizens Bank Park is pretty spot on, the only thing that annoys me about it is that all of the concession stands are completely empty in the park. It looks real bad in ashburn alley and on the one that's in the left field scoreboard porch.

It's not spot on at all.

They are still missing all the year flags in left center field. The 2 LED stat boards on the right field wall is wrong. Also the LED stat board in the right field upper deck is wrong. Team logos instead of team names on the Jumbo tron. Also not confirmed yet but I bet the Liberty Bell animations also is still wrong. Plus still no real life stat LED ribbon boards that go around the stadium.

# 183 SoxFan01605 @ 03/03/16 10:37 PM

While I selfishly wish Franchise would be loaded with improvements each year and DD and that all these side modes would die a quick and dramatic death (

), I am happy with the way franchise is moving forward.

Seriously, the improved stat tracking was always going to be the "big ticket" upgrade, so add in the fact that they have added what seems to be a well thought-out morale system along with the various tweaks and improvements to multiple aspects of the logic, management, commentary, and UI and I have no complaints.

Don't get me wrong, I have a laundry list of things I still want (seriously...I don't think it's realistically possible to satisfy my wishlist completely), but I am happy with how 16's franchise is shaping up.

# 184 HustlinOwl @ 03/03/16 10:58 PM

lol, what the heck was going on with Posey's wrist at the 1;59;45 mark? Taped wrists for base running and then gone the next batter?

# 185 sydrogerdavid @ 03/03/16 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by PhilliesFan13


	None of the stadiums have stats on the LED ribbons in the game. They aren't going to make an exception for CBP.

For some reason, Busch Stadium has had them since MLB 10.

It's strange, because Busch has all three versions of ribbons in The Show. LED stat ribbons, LED scrolling nickname ribbons, and stat CRT (correct name?) ribbons. It's one of the few things I've never had to worry about in my writeups.

# 186 dran1984 @ 03/03/16 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Cowboy008


	I think Ramone talked about this in the stream but I could be completely wrong. You could complete all your GM goals and have a good GM rating but if you don't accomplish the Owners goal you could be fired.

That's why I play with them off.

I also noticed during the stream that a 22 year old prospects' ETA was 2020+ so he will be getting to the majors at age 27 or older. I really wish this was changed to be more realistic.

# 187 BrianU @ 03/03/16 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Victor_SDS


	On behalf of Luis, who's trying to ease your concerns about progression: Performance-Based Progression is not a one-size fits all system for every player. Every attribute level has an expected stat value associated with it, so the drop you saw with Avisail Garcia was "extreme" because he had a good Con vs L attribute to begin with. You shouldn't worry about the system getting out of hand, since these expected values are updated along with attribute progression. This means Garcia would experience less of a drop if he performed exactly the same the following season. Here's an example of a guy who hit .177 over 260 ABs versus righties, and not experiencing a single point drop in Con vs R: Attachment 117131 On the flip side, here's someone hitting .331 versus lefties and only getting a one point increase: Attachment 117132 In the end, our simulator is going to generate stats that are in line with player attributes the vast majority of the time, but when unusual breakouts/crashes occur, we want to capture them, since this happens in the Majors all the time.

Awesome info! My hype meter is back on full blast. Last year there was a bit of talk around here for pitchers progressing much faster than hitters, and many years into the franchise the pitching became stacked. Any work adjusting that? The whole progression system seems like it changed a lot so perhaps that'll do it.

I don't know if anyone answered yet on the stream or in the thread but how does the morale system handle created players? Do they get the 7 aspects of morale and are they editable? How about generated draft players?

I'm loving the way the commentary, stats, contracts, and progression all come together to make the franchise more emergent and dynamic. I see huge advances in offline franchise this year. Keep kicking *** over there guys!

# 188 BrianU @ 03/03/16 11:18 PM

Also people are forgetting Sounds of the Show which is best used in franchise. Nothing beats playing on the road and hearing the authentic stadium sounds as you clobber the Phillies and Braves into the ground.

# 189 Speedy @ 03/03/16 11:23 PM

Anybody else notice Mill getting a question in during the stream?

# 190 Cowboy008 @ 03/03/16 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by dran1984


	That's why I play with them off. I also noticed during the stream that a 22 year old prospects' ETA was 2020+ so he will be getting to the majors at age 27 or older. I really wish this was changed to be more realistic.

I think the GM goals and rating are good. If you complete some goals you'll get a good GM rating and that will give you more job offers from better teams.

As for the bold part maybe now with stats having a affect on a players progression he'll be coming up sooner than that if he performs well in the minors.

# 191 timmermac @ 03/03/16 11:32 PM

The main thing I'm excited about is the stat tracking, which will be available for PS3. However, all the other features are making me wish I could spring for an HDTV and PS4.

# 192 Speedy @ 03/03/16 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by WaitTilNextYear


	It looked to be an end of season, permanent 10-point decrease to the attribute based on a 114 AB sample of hitting .132 vLHPs. Yes, I agree. For platoon splits, a RHB needs about 2200 PA's vLHP for that past performance to be as predictive as a random 5.5% split in the future. A LHB needs 1000 PA's vRHP for that past performance to be as predictive as a random 9% split in the future. We could end up with all kinds of weird stuff...pronounced reverse platoon splits among them...if this aggressive progression/regression isn't patched/smoothed out.

Yes, that's my concern as well.

I think, at least for 2017, attribute changes should be solely/directly tied to training/coaching (here's hoping for a revamp!

) but having stats tie directly to a player's ratings has an opportunity to vastly change a player's effectiveness.

EDIT: Addressed by Victor...it's nonetheless something I'm kindly hesitant about and will be watching.

# 193 dran1984 @ 03/03/16 11:36 PM

While I agree that a lot of things that we wanted to see added to franchise didn't make it in, a majority of the upgrades and additions still direct the feel of playing franchise. This is still gonna be a great game.

# 194 Sip_16 @ 03/03/16 11:37 PM

Games looking great to me. Can't wait to start my franchise and try out the new improvements. Not everyone is gonna be happy but no one can ever deny what these guys do and how much work they put in. Thanks SCEA as long as u make MLB games I'll be buying even tho Ramone says it's unfortunate to live in Canada haha

# 195 WaitTilNextYear @ 03/03/16 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Victor_SDS


	On behalf of Luis, who's trying to ease your concerns about progression: Performance-Based Progression is not a one-size fits all system for every player. Every attribute level has an expected stat value associated with it, so the drop you saw with Avisail Garcia was "extreme" because he had a good Con vs L attribute to begin with. You shouldn't worry about the system getting out of hand, since these expected values are updated along with attribute progression. This means Garcia would experience less of a drop if he performed exactly the same the following season. Here's an example of a guy who hit .177 over 260 ABs versus righties, and not experiencing a single point drop in Con vs R: On the flip side, here's someone hitting .331 versus lefties and only getting a one point increase. In the end, our simulator is going to generate stats that are in line with player attributes the vast majority of the time, but when unusual breakouts/crashes occur, we want to capture them, since this happens in the Majors all the time.

Thanks for the reply, Victor. This alleviates some of my concerns, and I understand your point about stats meeting/not meeting different levels of 'expectation' to trigger progression/regression (a 70 CON vLHP expects a higher batting average than a 45 CON vLHP and would drop more upon a poor showing), but I still wonder how many Avi Garcia cases there will really be.

If you (or vicariously, Luis) could follow up about this...does the progression/regression logic have any understanding of sample size? If Avisail Garcia had batted .000 in 2 ABs against lefties, would the penalty be as harsh as it was for batting .132 in 114 ABs? Would he have dropped 10 points anyway? I think most would hate for an injured player or a prospect with decent ratings to get a September callup only to get nailed on ratings at the end of the year if he didn't deliver in a tiny sample.

I suppose that it could always be reversed since ratings are editable, but nobody is going to want to do that! Especially now that I can put my Excel sheet away because the game is tracking stuff for me!

# 196 TattooedEvil @ 03/04/16 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by russilini


	i excited by what they've shown so far...everyone else seems to be bummed about things they are assuming???????????

if you're new here you'll see that things are never enough. for years all ud see on here is ppl yelling for all time stats and now that they have them its not good enough. nothing is never enough. most will still buy tho so its pointless haha

# 197 Speedy @ 03/04/16 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by WaitTilNextYear


	If you (or vicariously, Luis) could follow up about this...does the progression/regression logic have any understanding of sample size? If Avisail Garcia had batted .000 in 2 ABs against lefties, would the penalty be as harsh as it was for batting .132 in 114 ABs? Would he have dropped 10 points anyway? I think most would hate for an injured player or a prospect with decent ratings to get a September callup only to get nailed on ratings at the end of the year if he didn't deliver in a tiny sample.

Great, great, great, great question, WTNY...this is something I'm very interested in knowing as well.

# 198 letsgomets75 @ 03/04/16 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by BrianU


	Also people are forgetting Sounds of the Show which is best used in franchise. Nothing beats playing on the road and hearing the authentic stadium sounds as you clobber the Phillies and Braves into the ground.

# 199 HustlinOwl @ 03/04/16 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by TattooedEvil


	most will still buy tho so its pointless haha

the benefit of being only game in town, if a competitor Im willing to bet it would be a different story

# 200 SFNiners816 @ 03/04/16 12:03 AM

I'm interested to see how the morale is gonna work concern the Stars. They said it was primarily based on batting and the 1,3 and 4 holes are considered the star slots. I'm not sure if I really like that. Honestly everything from 1-5 is a primo spot in the order. Hell my favorite guy ever (Ryno) batted a majority of his career in the 2 hole. This was the case during his young prime years 84-85 and then his second prime time '89-92.

I just don't think a guy is gonna get pissed off if he's batting 2nd or 5th. Maddon last year had a fairly stable rotation where Bryant and Rizzo where batting 2 and 3 because Russell was batting 9. This guaranteed these guys got first inning ABs but for the balance of the game they were essentially 3-4 guys.

Also the GM goals got me worried about getting into a situation where you have to win a WS every 3 years to stay with your team. I really have no interest in being another team and I was forced to keep the goals on because I year to year saved from 14 to 15. I'm in my 6th year and have won 2 WS with the Cubs and I'm just scared that if I don't win another one in the next 3 years I'll get booted because that the owners expectations. A GM especially with the Cubs would not lose his job for wining 2 WS in what would be 9 years. I seriously just wish they would implement a way to turn off the GM goals on a continuing franchise.

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