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# 601 lilteapot @ 07/27/14 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Vni
Or maybe it will.

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Cmon, you know people are never going to let him or anybody's legacy "surpass" Jordan's.
 
# 602 z Revis @ 07/27/14 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Sinner
Or maybe people should just stop taking what athletes say as an absolute truth of how they will always feel. Things and people change all the time
Lol alright. So what changed in the last 4 years that made LeBron lose respect of the number 23?
 
# 603 lilteapot @ 07/27/14 09:25 PM
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Lol alright. So what changed in the last 4 years that made LeBron lose respect of the number 23?
I think we should just forget about anything 2010-2011 version of Lebron ever said so we can start over.
 
# 604 VDusen04 @ 07/27/14 09:47 PM
I'm glad he selected number 23. I'd prefer for #6 to stick in its little time bubble in Miami. It feels right to go back to 2-3. I kind of wish they brought back his Cleveland style jerseys too, but that kind of thing doesn't happen. I guess the new jerseys will help history distinguish first Cleveland LeBron from second Cleveland LeBron.
 
# 605 Sinner @ 07/27/14 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by z Revis
Lol alright. So what changed in the last 4 years that made LeBron lose respect of the number 23?
Obviously none of us know but maybe after 4 years he see that number 23 isn't going to get retired league wise so he gave that up awhile ago.

Sure it can be said well he doesn't have to wear it if he feels that way but like I said things change. I would imagine that he still has respect for Jordan and what he's done for the league maybe he feels now that wearing the number and doing great things is a way of showing respect.
 
# 606 ojandpizza @ 07/27/14 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by VDusen04
I'm glad he selected number 23. I'd prefer for #6 to stick in its little time bubble in Miami. It feels right to go back to 2-3. I kind of wish they brought back his Cleveland style jerseys too, but that kind of thing doesn't happen. I guess the new jerseys will help history distinguish first Cleveland LeBron from second Cleveland LeBron.

Agree with this, 100%.


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# 607 ojandpizza @ 07/27/14 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Sinner
Obviously none of us know but maybe after 4 years he see that number 23 isn't going to get retired league wise so he gave that up awhile ago.

Sure it can be said well he doesn't have to wear it if he feels that way but like I said things change. I would imagine that he still has respect for Jordan and what he's done for the league maybe he feels now that wearing the number and doing great things is a way of showing respect.

Or, he's tired of constantly giving Jordan respect and praising him only for Jordan to disrespect him in return.. I know I wouldn't feel to great about the idea of my childhood hero dissing me, just sayin.


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# 608 King_B_Mack @ 07/27/14 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by lilteapot
I think we should just forget about anything 2010-2011 version of Lebron ever said so we can start over.
That was 2009 LeBron, but close enough I guess lol.
 
# 609 cima @ 07/28/14 12:30 AM
He doesn't give a **** about respecting Jordan anymore because Jordan has disrespected him many times since he said that. Remember when LeBron denied staring down Jordan? He was lying. He's mad at him, which I don't blame him for.
 
# 610 23 @ 07/28/14 12:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Jimmy Waterhouse
He doesn't give a **** about respecting Jordan anymore because Jordan has disrespected him many times since he said that. Remember when LeBron denied staring down Jordan? He was lying. He's mad at him, which I don't blame him for.
Yeah man I remember he was so angry at him that he.... wait, no he wasnt

You're fabricating stuff now.
 
# 611 King_B_Mack @ 07/28/14 12:44 AM
How'd Jordan disrespect LeBron again? I don't recall ever seeing a legit response to that.
 
# 612 cavsfan2 @ 07/28/14 02:03 AM
Dear god it's a ****ing number
 
# 613 ojandpizza @ 07/28/14 02:25 AM
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Originally Posted by King_B_Mack
How'd Jordan disrespect LeBron again? I don't recall ever seeing a legit response to that.

There used to be an article somewhere that had pretty much everything written out, I think it was on the topic of Jordan constantly mentions and disses LeBron because he doesn't want him to surpass him when it's all said and done.. Idk the article itself was really ****ing stupid but it was crazy to see all the things Jordan's has said about him over the years. I've been trying to find it again ever since you've asked but I can't find it anywhere.. I think I have it bookmarked in my old phone, but I can't find that either lol.

But honestly there isn't much that's "legit" that's been said.. Most of it depends on how you interpret it, one person might think he meant it as a dis, one might say it's friendly criticism, or honesty, or competitive nature, or whatever... Most of it isn't really clear.

But from my perspective why even bring it up. Why do you need to say "I wouldn't have joined Magic and Bird", and saying things like he wouldn't be as good in my era, I could beat him one on one. Why make multiple commercials insinuating dissing LeBron without actually saying it, I mean just don't say anything, or at least say what you actually mean instead of "hinting" at everything... Jordan stays relatively quite, but is always one of the first to jump in with a comment about LeBron, so long as that comment brings him down in some manner..

I really don't care either way, it doesn't bother me if those two loved each other or hated each other. But if I were LeBron and I had grew up idolizing MJ (which I did) and I openly called him my role model, the best ever, said that he's so great the entire league should retire 23 (which is crazy). Etc, etc... Only for in return he doesn't speak of me other than to bring me down, or avoid giving a compliment without the "but this", and so on.. I mean that probably doesn't sit to well with LeBron. Your superhero basically continues to put you down, nobody wants that. I'm not a professional athlete but if one of my favorite players publicly put me down it would certainly make me feel different towards them. That's all I'm saying.

But ultimately, MJ said just last season or the one before I can't remember, he said that the only reason LeBron is the best player in the league is because Kobe was out with an injury.. There isn't a player, coach, GM in the league that would have agreed with that. It was beyond disrespectful IMO. It's one thing to say Kobe has had the better career, or is the better player all time, etc.. But to currently say that a past prime 34 year old Kobe was better than LeBron entering his prime and winning championships and MVPs, I mean that's just laughable really. Why wouldn't something like that make LeBron feel a little less of someone he considered an idol and a role model.
 
# 614 King_B_Mack @ 07/28/14 10:23 AM
That's not exactly what he said, but okay OJ lol

http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.c...be-is-injured/

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“It’s hard to pick. It’s hard to say the best player,” Jordan said. “You would have to say LeBron because of what he’s capable of doing. Kobe is coming off an injury and you don’t know where he is going to be at his age. I would have to say LeBron.”
And when he said he'd take Kobe over LeBron, it's pretty clear he was taking their entire careers into account.

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“If you had to pick between the two, that would be a tough choice,” Jordan, now owner of the Charlotte Bobcats, told program host Ahmad Rashard, “but five beats one every time I look at it.”

Bryant has won five championships with the Los Angeles Lakers, with James winning his first NBA title last June. Jordan, of course, won six championships with the Chicago Bulls

“And not that he won’t get five,” Jordan said of James. “He may get more than that, but five is bigger than one.”
 
# 615 23 @ 07/28/14 10:44 AM
The Internet lolol
 
# 616 TMagic @ 07/28/14 10:47 AM
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Dear god it's a ****ing number

Its the offseason. Tis to be expected with nothing else to talk about. Happens every year. Lol
 
# 617 cima @ 07/28/14 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by 23
Yeah man I remember he was so angry at him that he.... wait, no he wasnt

You're fabricating stuff now.


You really think he's not staring him down? right, because when on a fast break dunk players just glare at a target that's not within the linear vicinity of the basket...
 
# 618 jeebs9 @ 07/28/14 11:09 AM
He could of been looking over there for a number of reasons. But oh well... Good luck with that. Hopefully LeBron comes out on his autobiography and makes everyone feel better about what happen.
 
# 619 King_B_Mack @ 07/28/14 11:12 AM
Whoopty doo he stared at Jordan on a break. So ****ing what?
 
# 620 Vni @ 07/28/14 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by King_B_Mack
Whoopty doo he stared at Jordan on a break. So ****ing what?

Page 137 of The Game Of Basketball rules, article 17 :

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You don't stare at Jordan on a fastbreak.
 


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