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Ok, after much anticipation we finally have the OSFM Hybrid roster ready for release.

What is the OSFM Hybrid you ask?

It is the OSFM Full Minors with a full ratings re-rate. It gives a uniform blanket rating system that brings everything together and makes very realistic game play.

What does this include?

The roster is based off the OSFM, which if you don't know is a collection of great contributors, run by Knight165 who create minor league players and major league players who were not included in this game.

We have re-rated all stats for both minor leaguers whom we had info for as well as all the SCEA original players who came in the game.

The stats we use are ZiPs preseason ratings created by Dan Szymborski, they are gathered into a spreadsheet and formulated to match ratings values in the game.

All hitting and defense ratings have been changed as well as pitcher ratings not including Pitch Edits - they will be included in V2.

Potentials were also reviewed and altered where necessary.

The roster has accurate 40 man rosters to today's date, as well as accurate as possible hitting lineups and pitching lineups for all levels. Players who are currently on 60 day disabled lists or suspended are not included in their respective teams 40 man roster and can be found on the A ball roster.

Also we have added many AAA and AA players who were not included in the OSFM - some prospects may have been removed or been put in the FA Pool to make room for players who should be in the roster - you really don't want very young top prospects playing in AAA or even AA.

Stance, Motion and Equipment updates were done where we knew changes needed to be made or could be made.

PLEASE DO NOT LOOK AT THE OVERALLS FOR PLAYERS AS A WAY TO GUAGE THEIR VALUE Players overalls are weighted by a variety of things based on the position they play. With this re-rate most players did go down in overalls, and really the league balances out to where it should be. Player ratings are what they are. We made some adjustments to physical attributes but the pure stat based attributes are the same base across the board.

This is what the Overalls should represent

90+ - All Star and Superstar Caliber

80+ - high end regulars and All Starts

70+ - everyday players and bench players

60+ - Bench players and career minor league players

50+ - low level prospects and Organization fillers

Players Ratings have not been updated yet - that will be included in V2.1, so players like Solarte, Bettances, Melky Cabrera, Mark Buerhle to name a few will have lower ratings then you would expect based on their performances so far this season.

A roster like this can't happen without the support of many great individuals whom deserve a ton of credit - I hope I remember everyone and spell their names correct

ttbucsfan001 created our spreadsheet
teeds - my partner in crime, created a ton of players, handled the transactions and organizing of players we needed to create and replace
cultbuscus - spent countless hours creating and helping input ratings
sky63 - assisted for several days importing the OSFM players
DarionC14 - did 90% of the hitter re-rate
mmorg - did most of the OSFM re-rate
totte - helped with testing the roster
davis25 - helped create players
shaneomac - helped with rating and player creations

I ask that if you have constructive criticism that is fine but do not use this thread to complain. There is well over 100 hours poured into this project and several broken relationships and marriages.......lol

The roster is a little late this year, but I am very proud to put my name behind it. I hope everyone enjoys this and if you want the version with Pitch Edits it will be completed and released ASAP.

Thank you to all the helpers and the community for helping us along the way with suggestions, transaction updates and just entertaining posts.

The roster can be found in the Vault under the following name:

OSFM HYBRID 2014 V1.............psn Crapinmyshoe

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# 21 blahweee @ 05/27/14 08:53 PM
What is up with arenado's defensive ratings? Sure he may not have a great arm, but scouts and numbers agree since he came into the league he is the second best third baseman behind only Machado.
 
# 22 Zoja @ 05/27/14 08:56 PM
The game is finally complete, thanks guys.


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# 23 sigurd @ 05/27/14 08:57 PM
You guys realize you can change the ratings right?
 
# 24 blahweee @ 05/27/14 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by sigurd
You guys realize you can change the ratings right?
Yes, they just seemed so off I thought it might have been overlooked….just trying to help.
 
# 25 Shock1011 @ 05/27/14 09:00 PM
Only questionable rating I have come across is with Puig. His arm strength is in the high 50s. I would think it'd be at least 75+ since Ryan Braun who doesn't exactly have a cannon is at a 71

Otherwise this roster is unbelievable
 
# 26 giantsteps @ 05/27/14 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by wisdom less13
The overalls don't bother me at all. I prefer them lower. I know fielding has a lot to do with overall as well, but Lagares is a bit of a studd with the leather.
This is based on projections and on his past performance...his fielding pct isn't exactly elite.
 
# 27 jeschafer_1 @ 05/27/14 09:04 PM
I agree this roster is unbelievable! Willard and co. do you want us to point out corrections that need to be made?? I see that Ike Davis has #34 when it should be #15? Not sure if you guys want to make any corrections or not, and I'm not trying to nitpick just wasn't sure if you guys want to make corrections or not for version 2. Thanks again!
 
# 28 buczneverlose @ 05/27/14 09:08 PM
I'll dive into these later tonight when I have control of the television but what I'm hearing is a lot of confusion. Especially considering Puig is the best right fielder in the game, overall and his defensive stats aren't even close to Braun and Braun isn't even close to him defensively. Can you explain this Willard? Maybe cause Puig is so young you are allowing him to grow into it? And that pirates prospect you missed on is critical, he's a part of the future! And arrendo is one of the top 3 defensive third basemen in MLB, his hitting is more of a surprise to the Rockies and was brought up due to his amazing defensive skills. Maybe it's just people on here overreacting it just has me more anxious to check these out! But worst case scenario we have OSFM v2 which is almost perfect and I'll probably do pitch edits myself to that roster and post them if it's ok with Knight
 
# 29 24 @ 05/27/14 09:10 PM
Willard, Thank you so much for the all the hard work you put into these rosters. That thank you is extended to the rest of the team as well. I will be looking forward to starting up my Franchise with this wonderful set.
 
# 30 wisdom less13 @ 05/27/14 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by giantsteps
This is based on projections and on his past performance...his fielding pct isn't exactly elite.
So fielding is off of his percentage, not his actual fielding skill? The past performance makes sense for Abreu, but he's no elite fielder at age 41.
 
# 31 teeds @ 05/27/14 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Dienerbird55
Yankee OF prospect Mason Williams is suppose to Bat Lefty and Throw Righty. Right now in game, it's the other way around. I noticed that from the original OSFM rosters though. Just mentioning in case anyone wants to fix it. Love how these look though! Starting my franchise now!
This will be fixed. We haven't gone through the entire corrections list yet.

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Originally Posted by blahweee
What is up with arenado's defensive ratings? Sure he may not have a great arm, but scouts and numbers agree since he came into the league he is the second best third baseman behind only Machado.
I agree. Some defensive ratings will need a looking at. We might have outdated numbers on some of these players.

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Originally Posted by Shock1011
Only questionable rating I have come across is with Puig. His arm strength is in the high 50s. I would think it'd be at least 75+ since Ryan Braun who doesn't exactly have a cannon is at a 71

Otherwise this roster is unbelievable
Yes, Puig's arm strength should be higher and definitely higher than Braun's.

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Originally Posted by jeschafer_1
I agree this roster is unbelievable! Willard and co. do you want us to point out corrections that need to be made?? I see that Ike Davis has #34 when it should be #15? Not sure if you guys want to make any corrections or not, and I'm not trying to nitpick just wasn't sure if you guys want to make corrections or not for version 2. Thanks again!
We'll get the numbers fixed on subsequent versions.

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Originally Posted by buczneverlose
I'll dive into these later tonight when I have control of the television but what I'm hearing is a lot of confusion. Especially considering Puig is the best right fielder in the game, overall and his defensive stats aren't even close to Braun and Braun isn't even close to him defensively. Can you explain this Willard? Maybe cause Puig is so young you are allowing him to grow into it? And that pirates prospect you missed on is critical, he's a part of the future! And arrendo is one of the top 3 defensive third basemen in MLB, his hitting is more of a surprise to the Rockies and was brought up due to his amazing defensive skills. Maybe it's just people on here overreacting it just has me more anxious to check these out! But worst case scenario we have OSFM v2 which is almost perfect and I'll probably do pitch edits myself to that roster and post them if it's ok with Knight
I guarantee you we'll look at defensive ratings. As I said above, the numbers we have might be outdated. The problem is I don't think any great defensive info exists that we can correlate to game ratings. With that said, most of us know baseball well enough to realize that Braun rated higher than Puig defensively isn't right. As for McGuire, he'll be in there, was just overlooked. We have updated ratings for him.
 
# 32 BEasy20 @ 05/27/14 09:19 PM
Teeds you think those corrections will be a part of the pitch edits version that is released soon?
 
# 33 blahweee @ 05/27/14 09:28 PM
I will gladly be willing to try and give any objective help I can on defensive re-rates.
Probably the best defensive metrics to date IMO are UZR and it's sub metrics, which breaks it down to range (probably reaction?), Error rating (probably fielding?), double play rating (??? maybe consider it when doing fielding rating ???), and arm for OF (which measures only effectiveness not accuracy or strength so would have to rely on player reputation there). There are equivalent numbers for catchers on runs prevented by blocking balls, and by throwing out runners. I am sure the roster creators are aware of most, if not all of this, and that there aren't ZiPS or steamer projections for these (that I know of). But there is some good data out there on defensive metrics. I am a complete neophyte when it comes to roster making, but I love baseball, and have loved the realism these rosters bring to the game. If I can help, then let me know.
 
# 34 teeds @ 05/27/14 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by BEasy20
Teeds you think those corrections will be a part of the pitch edits version that is released soon?
They absolutely will be.
 
# 35 teeds @ 05/27/14 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by blahweee
I will gladly be willing to try and give any objective help I can on defensive re-rates.
Probably the best defensive metrics to date IMO are UZR and it's sub metrics, which breaks it down to range (probably reaction?), Error rating (probably fielding?), double play rating (??? maybe consider it when doing fielding rating ???), and arm for OF (which measures only effectiveness not accuracy or strength so would have to rely on player reputation there). There are equivalent numbers for catchers on runs prevented by blocking balls, and by throwing out runners. I am sure the roster creators are aware of most, if not all of this, and that there aren't ZiPS or steamer projections for these (that I know of). But there is some good data out there on defensive metrics. I am a complete neophyte when it comes to roster making, but I love baseball, and have loved the realism these rosters bring to the game. If I can help, then let me know.
Can you come up with some ratings? We're very much aware of the existing defensive metrics and you're right, there are not ZiPS or steamer projections we can pull from. We just don't have that much time to devote to creating our own defensive ratings. Willard can you fill you in more on what ratings he's been working from.
 
# 36 Scott @ 05/27/14 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by teeds
Can you come up with some ratings? We're very much aware of the existing defensive metrics and you're right, there are not ZiPS or steamer projections we can pull from. We just don't have that much time to devote to creating our own defensive ratings. Willard can you fill you in more on what ratings he's been working from.

I've would just use 2013 fangraphs data

Arm Strength
Arm Accuracy
Reaction=Instinct
Catching=Hands


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# 37 blahweee @ 05/27/14 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Scott
I've would just use 2013 fangraphs data

Arm Strength
Arm Accuracy
Reaction=Instinct
Catching=Hands


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You're referring to the fans scouting report info?
 
# 38 Scott @ 05/27/14 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by blahweee
You're referring to the fans scouting report info?

Correct. I used that in my rosters last year.

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# 39 blahweee @ 05/27/14 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Scott
Correct. I used that in my rosters last year.

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Seems pretty reasonable, they use a 100 point scale too.

Could average instincts and 1st step for reaction rating.
Average hands and release for fielding, then arm accuracy and strength are there.

Rookies would be SOL, but could work with them based on how they compare in available metrics like UZR when looking at the other guys who have scouting report info….though same goes for MiLB players and they don't even have UZR data.
 
# 40 msmith05 @ 05/27/14 09:51 PM
Thank you to all that made this possible
 


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