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Ok, after much anticipation we finally have the OSFM Hybrid roster ready for release.

What is the OSFM Hybrid you ask?

It is the OSFM Full Minors with a full ratings re-rate. It gives a uniform blanket rating system that brings everything together and makes very realistic game play.

What does this include?

The roster is based off the OSFM, which if you don't know is a collection of great contributors, run by Knight165 who create minor league players and major league players who were not included in this game.

We have re-rated all stats for both minor leaguers whom we had info for as well as all the SCEA original players who came in the game.

The stats we use are ZiPs preseason ratings created by Dan Szymborski, they are gathered into a spreadsheet and formulated to match ratings values in the game.

All hitting and defense ratings have been changed as well as pitcher ratings not including Pitch Edits - they will be included in V2.

Potentials were also reviewed and altered where necessary.

The roster has accurate 40 man rosters to today's date, as well as accurate as possible hitting lineups and pitching lineups for all levels. Players who are currently on 60 day disabled lists or suspended are not included in their respective teams 40 man roster and can be found on the A ball roster.

Also we have added many AAA and AA players who were not included in the OSFM - some prospects may have been removed or been put in the FA Pool to make room for players who should be in the roster - you really don't want very young top prospects playing in AAA or even AA.

Stance, Motion and Equipment updates were done where we knew changes needed to be made or could be made.

PLEASE DO NOT LOOK AT THE OVERALLS FOR PLAYERS AS A WAY TO GUAGE THEIR VALUE Players overalls are weighted by a variety of things based on the position they play. With this re-rate most players did go down in overalls, and really the league balances out to where it should be. Player ratings are what they are. We made some adjustments to physical attributes but the pure stat based attributes are the same base across the board.

This is what the Overalls should represent

90+ - All Star and Superstar Caliber

80+ - high end regulars and All Starts

70+ - everyday players and bench players

60+ - Bench players and career minor league players

50+ - low level prospects and Organization fillers

Players Ratings have not been updated yet - that will be included in V2.1, so players like Solarte, Bettances, Melky Cabrera, Mark Buerhle to name a few will have lower ratings then you would expect based on their performances so far this season.

A roster like this can't happen without the support of many great individuals whom deserve a ton of credit - I hope I remember everyone and spell their names correct

ttbucsfan001 created our spreadsheet
teeds - my partner in crime, created a ton of players, handled the transactions and organizing of players we needed to create and replace
cultbuscus - spent countless hours creating and helping input ratings
sky63 - assisted for several days importing the OSFM players
DarionC14 - did 90% of the hitter re-rate
mmorg - did most of the OSFM re-rate
totte - helped with testing the roster
davis25 - helped create players
shaneomac - helped with rating and player creations

I ask that if you have constructive criticism that is fine but do not use this thread to complain. There is well over 100 hours poured into this project and several broken relationships and marriages.......lol

The roster is a little late this year, but I am very proud to put my name behind it. I hope everyone enjoys this and if you want the version with Pitch Edits it will be completed and released ASAP.

Thank you to all the helpers and the community for helping us along the way with suggestions, transaction updates and just entertaining posts.

The roster can be found in the Vault under the following name:

OSFM HYBRID 2014 V1.............psn Crapinmyshoe

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# 141 WaitTilNextYear @ 05/28/14 03:57 PM
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Currently streaming at www.twitch.tv/osauthentic
Just checked out the twitch stream and it says offline...how are the pitch edits coming along fellas? If you two need a break from about 15 hours of straight editing, I could lend a hand.
 
# 142 davis25 @ 05/28/14 04:10 PM
Funny, I just simmed 3 years of original osfm roster and only got 10 total guys hitting over .300 and just 25 over .290. This is all on average of 3 years as well. So the guys whining that these rosters are fubar, are completely wrong!


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# 143 The Kid 24 @ 05/28/14 04:14 PM
Willard... Does it matter what sliders we use when simming games?
 
# 144 WaitTilNextYear @ 05/28/14 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by davis25
Funny, I just simmed 3 years of original osfm roster and only got 10 total guys hitting over .300 and just 25 over .290. This is all on average of 3 years as well. So the guys whining that these rosters are fubar, are completely wrong!


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But the 25 should be over .300 not .290. In the past 5 years, there have been at least 20 batters hitting over .300 per season in MLB. Doing at least 20 sims, the most I saw was 12. It's definitely not fubar, but it could use a boost.
 
# 145 WaitTilNextYear @ 05/28/14 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by The Kid 24
Willard... Does it matter what sliders we use when simming games?
Sliders (aside from clutch) have absolutely zero influence on simmed games.
 
# 146 Jcrome @ 05/28/14 04:19 PM
Thanks so much for all the work, really love that I found a roster that I feel does Ahmed Rosario's potential justice.
I do have a few questions though
Is there a specific reason why George Springer potential was downgraded to an 87?
Also did you guys not edit Oscar Taveras? I assume not since he only has steamer projections and not Zips, IDK if you guys have addressed this or anything, or tested and found it worked out fine but it seems like he'll be over powered as he is the Cardinals best OF(not only in OVR, but also batting stats) and I doubt that he is currently better than Craig or Holliday irl.
 
# 147 URBYJT @ 05/28/14 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by WaitTilNextYear
Just checked out the twitch stream and it says offline...how are the pitch edits coming along fellas? If you two need a break from about 15 hours of straight editing, I could lend a hand.
They had just finished the Red Sox. So probably 75-80% done. At that was just when the stream went offline.
 
# 148 URBYJT @ 05/28/14 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Jcrome
Thanks so much for all the work, really love that I found a roster that I feel does Ahmed Rosario's potential justice.
I do have a few questions though
Is there a specific reason why George Springer potential was downgraded to an 87?
Also did you guys not edit Oscar Taveras? I assume not since he only has steamer projections and not Zips, IDK if you guys have addressed this or anything, or tested and found it worked out fine but it seems like he'll be over powered as he is the Cardinals best OF(not only in OVR, but also batting stats) and I doubt that he is currently better than Craig or Holliday irl.
Potential is a rating that can change on it's own. 87 for Springer seems about right.
But yeah you're right, in the sims I was running, I has a lot of Oscar Taveras MVPs.
 
# 149 shaneomac @ 05/28/14 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by WaitTilNextYear
Sliders (aside from clutch) have absolutely zero influence on simmed games.
Maybe I'm misunderstanding what you are saying but there is not a clutch slider. Clutch rating yes but no clutch slider.
 
# 150 davis25 @ 05/28/14 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by P.A.D.
How about the OSFM V2 roster? Any sims with that one?

Not yet, ive got it saved and will try 3 of it as well! Will let you know! I think it has something to do with pitchers being rated higher than they should be tho, they basically dominate! Im not seeing enough over 100 RBI guys either!


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# 151 Jcrome @ 05/28/14 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by URBYJT
Potential is a rating that can change on it's own. 87 for Springer seems about right.
But yeah you're right, in the sims I was running, I has a lot of Oscar Taveras MVPs.
Yeah I wasn't really worried about Springer just curious but Taveras seems like a potential problem

Also Zach Thornton on the Mets should be sent to AAA and Vick Black should be sent up.
 
# 152 davis25 @ 05/28/14 04:39 PM
Willard, cant send u any pm's due to your messages are full! Ive got the last set of sim numbers, will send them in a bit when u clear it out!


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# 153 URBYJT @ 05/28/14 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by P.A.D.
How about the OSFM V2 roster? Any sims with that one?
Just ran one with OSFM v2 and had 9 .300. High was Mauer at .328. Surprised.

My issue with OSFM v2 is that since so many people contributed, it doesn't seem to be equal across teams. I know teams will be better than others, but it just seems inconsistent. Or maybe that's just the butthurt Cubs fan in my talking. -shrug-
 
# 154 parky_17 @ 05/28/14 04:50 PM
Why is there a lot of major leaguers in A ball and off the 40 man rosters
 
# 155 URBYJT @ 05/28/14 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by parky_17
Why is there a lot of major leaguers in A ball and off the 40 man rosters
Players that are on the DL, specifically the 60 day DL (irl) get put in A ball. I kinda wish they hadn't done that, because it can skew things. But those who want pint-point realism go with that.
 
# 156 JohnDoe8865 @ 05/28/14 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by parky_17
Why is there a lot of major leaguers in A ball and off the 40 man rosters
Injured players
 
# 157 parky_17 @ 05/28/14 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by URBYJT
Players that are on the DL, specifically the 60 day DL (irl) get put in A ball. I kinda wish they hadn't done that, because it can skew things. But those who want pint-point realism go with that.
I think they should of been left on the 40 man roster though because when you start a franchise they'll all be left in A ball for the season when some of them will still play this season IRL
 
# 158 Shock1011 @ 05/28/14 04:59 PM
For sliders I've tried to make a set that's a combination of TNK's and the sliders Willard suggested on one of the first few pages of this thread. In the limited time I've played with these they seem really good. I thought I might as well make a base set that we can run off of until further notice or until Willard and Co. can come up with better ones.


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# 159 davis25 @ 05/28/14 05:02 PM
Just did 3 season on osfm v2 and here are averages...

15 hitters @ .300+
27 hitters @ .290+
15 hitters over 100 RBIs

Big differences here especially in RBI category, in hybrids I rarely saw more than 6 guys over 100(ive ran about 15-20 sims today) and even worse on 2-3 season not 1 NL guy had over 100 rbis in the season! Whips are too low and I know its a pitchers era but the top 15-18 guys shouldn't be sub 3.00 era either! It will be interesting to see if the pitch edits make any difference, or make it worse!


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# 160 URBYJT @ 05/28/14 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by P.A.D.
WOW, I'm honestly speechless. I was one of the proponents of the dude who came in here complaining about only seeing three .300+ hitters, but apparently this is an issue with OSFM and OSFM V2, which clearly shows it's an issue with the sim engine in general and not the rosters. Willard said he tried to combat this problem, but in all his sims, he just couldn't and it was eating at him. Very interesting! Good job, guys!
I ran a couple more and highest I got was 18. ranging HRs of 37-52, which seems pretty crazy.

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Originally Posted by parky_17
I think they should of been left on the 40 man roster though because when you start a franchise they'll all be left in A ball for the season when some of them will still play this season IRL
Well players on the 60 Day DL are not on the 40 man roster in real life. But I agree, browsing through my sims I saw guys like Matt Harvey and Profar in A-Ball at the end of the season, which is concerning. Although that's more of a The Show problem and not a OSFM prob.
 


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