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Ok, after much anticipation we finally have the OSFM Hybrid roster ready for release.

What is the OSFM Hybrid you ask?

It is the OSFM Full Minors with a full ratings re-rate. It gives a uniform blanket rating system that brings everything together and makes very realistic game play.

What does this include?

The roster is based off the OSFM, which if you don't know is a collection of great contributors, run by Knight165 who create minor league players and major league players who were not included in this game.

We have re-rated all stats for both minor leaguers whom we had info for as well as all the SCEA original players who came in the game.

The stats we use are ZiPs preseason ratings created by Dan Szymborski, they are gathered into a spreadsheet and formulated to match ratings values in the game.

All hitting and defense ratings have been changed as well as pitcher ratings not including Pitch Edits - they will be included in V2.

Potentials were also reviewed and altered where necessary.

The roster has accurate 40 man rosters to today's date, as well as accurate as possible hitting lineups and pitching lineups for all levels. Players who are currently on 60 day disabled lists or suspended are not included in their respective teams 40 man roster and can be found on the A ball roster.

Also we have added many AAA and AA players who were not included in the OSFM - some prospects may have been removed or been put in the FA Pool to make room for players who should be in the roster - you really don't want very young top prospects playing in AAA or even AA.

Stance, Motion and Equipment updates were done where we knew changes needed to be made or could be made.

PLEASE DO NOT LOOK AT THE OVERALLS FOR PLAYERS AS A WAY TO GUAGE THEIR VALUE Players overalls are weighted by a variety of things based on the position they play. With this re-rate most players did go down in overalls, and really the league balances out to where it should be. Player ratings are what they are. We made some adjustments to physical attributes but the pure stat based attributes are the same base across the board.

This is what the Overalls should represent

90+ - All Star and Superstar Caliber

80+ - high end regulars and All Starts

70+ - everyday players and bench players

60+ - Bench players and career minor league players

50+ - low level prospects and Organization fillers

Players Ratings have not been updated yet - that will be included in V2.1, so players like Solarte, Bettances, Melky Cabrera, Mark Buerhle to name a few will have lower ratings then you would expect based on their performances so far this season.

A roster like this can't happen without the support of many great individuals whom deserve a ton of credit - I hope I remember everyone and spell their names correct

ttbucsfan001 created our spreadsheet
teeds - my partner in crime, created a ton of players, handled the transactions and organizing of players we needed to create and replace
cultbuscus - spent countless hours creating and helping input ratings
sky63 - assisted for several days importing the OSFM players
DarionC14 - did 90% of the hitter re-rate
mmorg - did most of the OSFM re-rate
totte - helped with testing the roster
davis25 - helped create players
shaneomac - helped with rating and player creations

I ask that if you have constructive criticism that is fine but do not use this thread to complain. There is well over 100 hours poured into this project and several broken relationships and marriages.......lol

The roster is a little late this year, but I am very proud to put my name behind it. I hope everyone enjoys this and if you want the version with Pitch Edits it will be completed and released ASAP.

Thank you to all the helpers and the community for helping us along the way with suggestions, transaction updates and just entertaining posts.

The roster can be found in the Vault under the following name:

OSFM HYBRID 2014 V1.............psn Crapinmyshoe

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# 201 Willard76 @ 05/28/14 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by WaitTilNextYear
Dear God, Authentic how can you not be irritated with the menu music at this point?
How do you think I feel - I have well over 100 hours of edits this year

I actually set my computer and Ps3 up in my dinning room so I can see the tv in the family room - and convinced my wife I was spending time with them this way
 
# 202 URBYJT @ 05/28/14 08:39 PM
Good list of edits. I also second the Cubs corrects suggested. Especially Baez's speed, drop that **** down to 50-55.
 
# 203 Willard76 @ 05/28/14 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by P.A.D.
In that scenario, the hybrid seems more accurate. Yes, Puig is probably going to hit upwards of .320, but no way he's gonna hit 40 homers. 25-30 sounds much more accurate for that.
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Originally Posted by davis25
I think what is gonna happen is some people like using hitter happy rosters and others like using pitcher happy rosters...from what I can tell via sims osfm v2 is definitely more hitter friendly and the hybrids are much more pitcher friendly. With all the work that has been done on the hybrids with ratings, faces, and pitch edits(soon) they will definitely be what I am using. I still dislike how low the rbi numbers are, but as seasons move along, it will fix itself in the future I think!


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Both of these posts can be answered in one - the whole thing with this roster is it is strictly based on ZiPs projections - there is a uniform base for all the ratings - no biased, no this guys is having a good year so we hammer up the ratings - everything is taken from ZiPs and applied to Knights rating sheets. And ZiPs is one of the most accurate ratings projections out there period, so it should give plenty of accuracy
 
# 204 thescottyglasgow @ 05/28/14 08:50 PM
Pretty sure this has not been mentioned but what happened to Odor? I think he is 23 in this roster with a B or 87 potential which I have no problem with except the wrong age but Sardinas the SS seems to have the right age 21 but he has a 91 potential and I think they maybe they got mixed up with their ratings or something because he also has high contact ratings again this is off memory and I wanted to check it before I posted but wasn't able to sorry if I am wrong but wanted to point it out before they are done.
 
# 205 WaitTilNextYear @ 05/28/14 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by thescottyglasgow
Pretty sure this has not been mentioned but what happened to Odor? I think he is 23 in this roster with a B or 87 potential which I have no problem with except the wrong age but Sardinas the SS seems to have the right age 21 but he has a 91 potential and I think they maybe they got mixed up with their ratings or something because he also has high contact ratings again this is off memory and I wanted to check it before I posted but wasn't able to sorry if I am wrong but wanted to point it out before they are done.
I can confirm this. Odor is a 23 year old in this set and Sardinas is 21. Sardinas is fine, but Odor is only 20 years old in real life. Sardinas does have high 60s contact ratings.
 
# 206 Woopert @ 05/28/14 09:06 PM
Hey, I'm not sure if there is a separate correct thread for the Hybrid version, but I have a correction.

Destin Hood, in the Nationals farm system, is listed as a switch hitter on the roster. In real life he only bats from the right side.

Thanks again for the brilliant roster! It's my first experience with it and I'm very impressed.
 
# 207 Scott @ 05/28/14 09:09 PM
Also Aaron Hicks (MIN) is only batting from the Right side now, he's no longer a Switch Hitter.
 
# 208 TripleCrown @ 05/28/14 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Willard76
Both of these posts can be answered in one - the whole thing with this roster is it is strictly based on ZiPs projections
Don't want to start a flame. I like what you're doing and all amount of work you sinking in that and this is well appreciated. But I'm questioning if Mid May is a too short sample for projection ?? well it depends how you're weighting the 2013-2012 season in the formula...not sure about that.
 
# 209 Willard76 @ 05/28/14 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by TripleCrown
Don't want to start a flame. I like what you're doing and all amount of work you sinking in that and this is well appreciated. But I'm questioning if Mid May is a too short sample for projection ?? well it depends how you're weighting the 2013-2012 season in the formula...not sure about that.
Updates are being done right now as of today
 
# 210 TripleCrown @ 05/28/14 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Willard76
Updates are being done right now as of today
I have no doubt you guys are on par and up to date.

Just curious. How do you weight previous season in the formula ???
 
# 211 jeschafer_1 @ 05/28/14 09:23 PM
I have been working on a slider set for these rosters and I have come up with a pretty decent one I think. Mind you I use zone plus analog for hitting and pulse pitching. This is the reason my sliders might seem high for control and consistency. Feel free to use if you like, so far I have liked what I have seen with them, but that could all change once the pitch edits come out. Enjoy!!
Human contact - 6
Human power - 6
Human timing - 5
Stride difficulty - 5
Human foul - 2
Human solid hits - 3
Human starter stamina - 5
Human reliever stamina - 2
Human control - 7
Human consistency - 8
CPU contact - 6
CPU power - 6
CPU timing - 5
CPU foul - 2
CPU solid hits - 3
CPU starter stamina - 5
CPU reliever stamina 2
CPU pitcher control - 3
CPU pitcher consistency - 4
CPU strike frequency - 3
CPU manager hook - 6
CPU pickoffs - 5
Pitch speed - 6
Fielding errors - 6
Throwing errors - 6
Fielder run speed - 3
Fielder reaction - 7
Fielder arm strength - 5
Baserunner speed - 4
Baserunner steal ability - 4
Baserunner steal frequency - 4
Wind - 5
Injury frequency - 6

Also feel free to leave comments and suggestions if you do use them and like them, or dislike them. Thanks
 
# 212 PSCHMITT @ 05/28/14 09:25 PM
Just a minor thing: Lawrence Wilson (Brewers, RF, Class-A) isn't a real prospect. He has "B" potential, so I'm not sure whether it will be easy to replace him.
 
# 213 davis25 @ 05/28/14 09:26 PM
OS is on the last team for pitch edits, then its off to Willard for touch ups!!!


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# 214 WaitTilNextYear @ 05/28/14 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by davis25
OS is on the last team for pitch edits, then its off to Willard for touch ups!!!


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Authentic's touching up Nova right now. LESS THAN 20 PITCHERS TO GO!!!! (excluding MiLB and FA pitchers)

Can almost taste Hybrid V2.0
 
# 215 Willard76 @ 05/28/14 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by jeschafer_1
I have been working on a slider set for these rosters and I have come up with a pretty decent one I think. Mind you I use zone plus analog for hitting and pulse pitching. This is the reason my sliders might seem high for control and consistency. Feel free to use if you like, so far I have liked what I have seen with them, but that could all change once the pitch edits come out. Enjoy!!
Human contact - 6
Human power - 6
Human timing - 5
Stride difficulty - 5
Human foul - 2
Human solid hits - 3
Human starter stamina - 5
Human reliever stamina - 2
Human control - 7
Human consistency - 8
CPU contact - 6
CPU power - 6
CPU timing - 5
CPU foul - 2
CPU solid hits - 3
CPU starter stamina - 5
CPU reliever stamina 2
CPU pitcher control - 3
CPU pitcher consistency - 4
CPU strike frequency - 3
CPU manager hook - 6
CPU pickoffs - 5
Pitch speed - 6
Fielding errors - 6
Throwing errors - 6
Fielder run speed - 3
Fielder reaction - 7
Fielder arm strength - 5
Baserunner speed - 4
Baserunner steal ability - 4
Baserunner steal frequency - 4
Wind - 5
Injury frequency - 6

Also feel free to leave comments and suggestions if you do use them and like them, or dislike them. Thanks
The only thing I would up is starter stamina to 7 - otherwise looks great!
 
# 216 jmurphy @ 05/28/14 09:33 PM
Couple more jersey number issues I found, idk if you're tackling that yet Willard but Eduardo Escobar should be number 5 not 9, Aaron Hicks is 32, not 33 and Eduardo Nunez should be 9.
 
# 217 jmurphy @ 05/28/14 09:34 PM
Are they tackling MiLB pitch edits now or will that be a later update? Ive seen conflicting info
 
# 218 pimpinpidgeon8 @ 05/28/14 09:36 PM
Willard, have you thought about cutting back how many pitchers are labeled as CPs in the game? I think if a pitcher has 100+ saves, he should be labeled as a CP. The only odd balls would be the pitchers who are relatively new to closing but do deserve to be labeled a CP.
 
# 219 pimpinpidgeon8 @ 05/28/14 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by HopiDesertPriest
you need major sliders to correct these rosters.

adjust:

starter stamina to 3

reliever stamina to 2

manager hook to 4

injury to 8
ALL rosters have issues in regards to sim stats, NOT just this one.
 
# 220 davis25 @ 05/28/14 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by HopiDesertPriest
you need major sliders to correct these rosters.



adjust:



starter stamina to 3



reliever stamina to 2



manager hook to 4



injury to 8

Manger hook needs to be way higher than 4, thats a given! Starters get tired way to quick, like 85-90 pitches so not sure how 3 works for that either!


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