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Ok, after much anticipation we finally have the OSFM Hybrid roster ready for release.

What is the OSFM Hybrid you ask?

It is the OSFM Full Minors with a full ratings re-rate. It gives a uniform blanket rating system that brings everything together and makes very realistic game play.

What does this include?

The roster is based off the OSFM, which if you don't know is a collection of great contributors, run by Knight165 who create minor league players and major league players who were not included in this game.

We have re-rated all stats for both minor leaguers whom we had info for as well as all the SCEA original players who came in the game.

The stats we use are ZiPs preseason ratings created by Dan Szymborski, they are gathered into a spreadsheet and formulated to match ratings values in the game.

All hitting and defense ratings have been changed as well as pitcher ratings not including Pitch Edits - they will be included in V2.

Potentials were also reviewed and altered where necessary.

The roster has accurate 40 man rosters to today's date, as well as accurate as possible hitting lineups and pitching lineups for all levels. Players who are currently on 60 day disabled lists or suspended are not included in their respective teams 40 man roster and can be found on the A ball roster.

Also we have added many AAA and AA players who were not included in the OSFM - some prospects may have been removed or been put in the FA Pool to make room for players who should be in the roster - you really don't want very young top prospects playing in AAA or even AA.

Stance, Motion and Equipment updates were done where we knew changes needed to be made or could be made.

PLEASE DO NOT LOOK AT THE OVERALLS FOR PLAYERS AS A WAY TO GUAGE THEIR VALUE Players overalls are weighted by a variety of things based on the position they play. With this re-rate most players did go down in overalls, and really the league balances out to where it should be. Player ratings are what they are. We made some adjustments to physical attributes but the pure stat based attributes are the same base across the board.

This is what the Overalls should represent

90+ - All Star and Superstar Caliber

80+ - high end regulars and All Starts

70+ - everyday players and bench players

60+ - Bench players and career minor league players

50+ - low level prospects and Organization fillers

Players Ratings have not been updated yet - that will be included in V2.1, so players like Solarte, Bettances, Melky Cabrera, Mark Buerhle to name a few will have lower ratings then you would expect based on their performances so far this season.

A roster like this can't happen without the support of many great individuals whom deserve a ton of credit - I hope I remember everyone and spell their names correct

ttbucsfan001 created our spreadsheet
teeds - my partner in crime, created a ton of players, handled the transactions and organizing of players we needed to create and replace
cultbuscus - spent countless hours creating and helping input ratings
sky63 - assisted for several days importing the OSFM players
DarionC14 - did 90% of the hitter re-rate
mmorg - did most of the OSFM re-rate
totte - helped with testing the roster
davis25 - helped create players
shaneomac - helped with rating and player creations

I ask that if you have constructive criticism that is fine but do not use this thread to complain. There is well over 100 hours poured into this project and several broken relationships and marriages.......lol

The roster is a little late this year, but I am very proud to put my name behind it. I hope everyone enjoys this and if you want the version with Pitch Edits it will be completed and released ASAP.

Thank you to all the helpers and the community for helping us along the way with suggestions, transaction updates and just entertaining posts.

The roster can be found in the Vault under the following name:

OSFM HYBRID 2014 V1.............psn Crapinmyshoe

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# 121 The Kid 24 @ 05/28/14 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by cultbuscus
I don't know exactly what his updates are, but Willard will run through them before pitch edits are released.
Why not wait until pitch edits are done to make the changes?
 
# 122 authentic @ 05/28/14 12:41 PM
Currently streaming at www.twitch.tv/osauthentic
 
# 123 cultbuscus @ 05/28/14 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by The Kid 24
Why not wait until pitch edits are done to make the changes?
I'm sorry, I may have worded that poorly. I meant that once, the pitch edits are done, he's going to get the roster back, and THEN the official pitch edits and fixes version will be released.
 
# 124 msmith05 @ 05/28/14 01:12 PM
since i am new to this hybrid roster pitch edit thing...how long after the edits are done will this roster be released with edits in
 
# 125 Willard76 @ 05/28/14 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by giantsteps
Willard, as a newcomer to The Show, how is the best way to manage the 30 teams for franchise play so that we keep the lineups correct given all the overall ratings changes?

Is there any way to get around having to disregard ALL the MiLB alerts about lineup changes for all 30 teams and still have control of the MLB rosters?

Thanks!
I will do that on the V2 thread

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Originally Posted by davis25
So what is the plan once these are done? Will they be released or sent back to Willard first, updated with Puig, Abreu, etc then released? Thanks for doin this guys!!


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I will get the rosters back, we have a hit list of players to fix and then the new release will happen tonight - maybe tomorrow if things take a bit to fix.
 
# 126 BDKiiing @ 05/28/14 01:15 PM
The non-asian Wei-Chung Wang is in. Not the updated one that was in V2.
 
# 127 msmith05 @ 05/28/14 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Willard76
I will do that on the V2 thread



I will get the rosters back, we have a hit list of players to fix and then the new release will happen tonight - maybe tomorrow if things take a bit to fix.


Awesome thanks.....anxious about starting franchise and don't want to without pitch edits....from what I have seen it totally makes game better with them
 
# 128 romeosdistress @ 05/28/14 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Willard76
A ton of stuff to try and provide insight and answers.



Pitchers own baseball right now and the batting average issue drove me freakin nuts until I tested our roster against others. Every roster I tested including this one came back with the same results - all over the map and rarely the same. More info below on why some stuff happens



Please let me know what you find.



It can dramatically affect a pitcher



I ran well over 100 sims and recorder data that nearly drove me to drink!



I agree that defense is very important and I will go through the roster when I get it back tonight before next release. Biggest problem is aside from fielding percentage - everything is opinion - reaction, arm all ate based on scouting scales and there is not a ton of info out there. For the most part I feel we got it right with the exception of probably less then 20 players



Bryant was my doing - really with his potential and the numbers given to him he is going to be the best 3b in the game in 2 years so that had to be downgraded. I just may have done too much



It is tough to say. I will use an example off the top of my head from the Blue Jays and this is an IRL debate in TO right now. Both Anthony Gose and Colby Rasmus have the same overall - 73. Gose is a guy with a ton of defensive ability and speed to burn, but low power and ok contact. Rasmus on the otherhand hss decent speed, good reaction and fielding ability but no arm. He is a .250 hitter with incredible power. Which type of player do you want?



Pm me later with results after a bunch of sims. I did try that myself among other things and found what you got 1 sim and then the same bad numbers the next. What concerns me with the general boost is guys like Miggy, Posey and Trout don't have a ton of room to grow and for the most part are doing what they should time in and out.

Also contact only increases a players ability to make contact on a line, and power adds loft and distance the ball will travel.

Please keep trying, if you find consistent results that is an easy fix.

I did already boost some players before release - maybe they needed more.

Willard

i dont think its very likely kris bryant plays 3b in mlb. id think it would be a corner of position honestly.
 
# 129 rjackson @ 05/28/14 01:40 PM
Are these Seanjeezy's pitch edits?
 
# 130 giantsteps @ 05/28/14 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by rjackson
Are these Seanjeezy's pitch edits?
Indeed they are.
 
# 131 URBYJT @ 05/28/14 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by rjackson
Are these Seanjeezy's pitch edits?
Yes they are.
 
# 132 Coper3000 @ 05/28/14 01:48 PM
Definitely a ''noobish" question, but "pitch editing" is basically creating a pitchers true repertoire, as well as control, velocity, etc., right?

I really like where the hitters averages are after a few sims, but some could use a minor boost, and this seems like a nice way of counteracting - without making the hitters have too much control of that.
 
# 133 URBYJT @ 05/28/14 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Coper3000
Definitely a ''noobish" question, but "pitch editing" is basically creating a pitchers true repertoire, as well as control, velocity, etc., right?

I really like where the hitters averages are after a few sims, but some could use a minor boost, and this seems like a nice way of counteracting - without making the hitters have too much control of that.
Yeah. The OSFM guys only touch the per 9, clutch, and stamina ratings i believe. The seanjeezy pitch edits goes into each individual pitch for velo, command, usage, and movement.
 
# 134 Joba62 @ 05/28/14 02:28 PM
Josh Donaldson needs to be way better. According to Fangraphs, he's the number 6 player this year and number 3 last year.
 
# 135 URBYJT @ 05/28/14 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Joba62
Josh Donaldson needs to be way better. According to Fangraphs, he's the number 6 player this year and number 3 last year.
I would say suggest some edits instead of just a blanket "way better"

I think these types of ratings they used are killer for a guy like Josh Donaldson, considering he just recently broke out after 1.5 years of mediocre MLB ball.
 
# 136 seanjeezy @ 05/28/14 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Joba62
Josh Donaldson needs to be way better. According to Fangraphs, he's the number 6 player this year and number 3 last year.
His preseason ZiPS projection seems to heavily weigh his 2012 season, the updated projection is much better (don't know if those are being used for the hybrid roster though).
 
# 137 Joba62 @ 05/28/14 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by URBYJT
I would say suggest some edits instead of just a blanket "way better"

I think these types of ratings they used are killer for a guy like Josh Donaldson, considering he just recently broke out after 1.5 years of mediocre MLB ball.
His defense should be in the top 3. Maybe raise his reactions by 15 and fielding by 8. Also, his power should be around 65 for pvr and 75 pvl.
 
# 138 jmurphy @ 05/28/14 03:29 PM
As a twins fan, I love what you guys did with the twins roster. Interesting to see what Willard said about the overalls being true. Mauer is actually a very good player in this roster with 80s contact and 80s fielding but his 40 power rating knocks him down to a 78 overall. So its true to say DONT LOOK AT OVERALL.

A couple changes I would suggest would be giving Brian Dozier a power boost (as was mentioned earlier)... he is after all having an allstar caliber season with 11 bombs already. Also I think he should get a bit of a fielding boost as well, he's always been regarded as one of the best fielding 2B in the game.

Trevor Plouffe probably needs a very small contact and power boost, but where you have him now isn't too far off, he's just doing a bit of raking this season (finally), and is leading the league in doubles.

Also Danny Santana's fielding may be a tad too high, still fairly raw as a SS and i feel his fielding and especially arm strength is inflating him a bit.

Pitching wise, Kyle Gibson should have a higher stamina rating as he's gone through 7 a couple times this year, should definitely have better per 9 ratings and clutch than Correia and certainly Pelfrey lol.

Finally more of a wish but Phil Hughes has been insane this year. 4-0 in his last 6 with no walks surrendered in his last 44.2 innings. Possibly a boost to his per 9 and clutch as he has become unquestionably the twins best starter. Also Sam Deduno should now be listed as a starter, and Sam Fuld should be number 1 rather than number 5.

Thanks boys, as always a fantastic job! These are all minor details that I just noticed being a hardcore fan of the team. On another note, I'm happy with Buxton and Sano exactly where you have them. Thanks again for all the hard work this year.
 
# 139 WaitTilNextYear @ 05/28/14 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Joba62
Josh Donaldson needs to be way better. According to Fangraphs, he's the number 6 player this year and number 3 last year.
To be honest, I really think Josh Donaldson, Andrew McCutchen, and Carlos Gomez are some of the tougher judgment calls. Donaldson and Gomez have exploded onto the scene for 2 years and yet when you look at their attributes, nothing really seems really out of whack.

Donaldson is a really valuable player, but it's not like he's hitting 40 dingers a year or hitting .320. He's not speed incarnate either. That said, I wouldn't be opposed to giving him a boost in power and defense although I'd be happy to use the current Donaldson.

Gomez and McCutchen...it's just important not to worry about their OVR and then it makes sense.
 
# 140 Joba62 @ 05/28/14 03:52 PM
Do you guys think Lawrie's main position should be 2b? He plays there more this year because of Juan Fransisco. 13 out of 19 games this month he has played 2b.
 


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