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Ok, after much anticipation we finally have the OSFM Hybrid roster ready for release.

What is the OSFM Hybrid you ask?

It is the OSFM Full Minors with a full ratings re-rate. It gives a uniform blanket rating system that brings everything together and makes very realistic game play.

What does this include?

The roster is based off the OSFM, which if you don't know is a collection of great contributors, run by Knight165 who create minor league players and major league players who were not included in this game.

We have re-rated all stats for both minor leaguers whom we had info for as well as all the SCEA original players who came in the game.

The stats we use are ZiPs preseason ratings created by Dan Szymborski, they are gathered into a spreadsheet and formulated to match ratings values in the game.

All hitting and defense ratings have been changed as well as pitcher ratings not including Pitch Edits - they will be included in V2.

Potentials were also reviewed and altered where necessary.

The roster has accurate 40 man rosters to today's date, as well as accurate as possible hitting lineups and pitching lineups for all levels. Players who are currently on 60 day disabled lists or suspended are not included in their respective teams 40 man roster and can be found on the A ball roster.

Also we have added many AAA and AA players who were not included in the OSFM - some prospects may have been removed or been put in the FA Pool to make room for players who should be in the roster - you really don't want very young top prospects playing in AAA or even AA.

Stance, Motion and Equipment updates were done where we knew changes needed to be made or could be made.

PLEASE DO NOT LOOK AT THE OVERALLS FOR PLAYERS AS A WAY TO GUAGE THEIR VALUE Players overalls are weighted by a variety of things based on the position they play. With this re-rate most players did go down in overalls, and really the league balances out to where it should be. Player ratings are what they are. We made some adjustments to physical attributes but the pure stat based attributes are the same base across the board.

This is what the Overalls should represent

90+ - All Star and Superstar Caliber

80+ - high end regulars and All Starts

70+ - everyday players and bench players

60+ - Bench players and career minor league players

50+ - low level prospects and Organization fillers

Players Ratings have not been updated yet - that will be included in V2.1, so players like Solarte, Bettances, Melky Cabrera, Mark Buerhle to name a few will have lower ratings then you would expect based on their performances so far this season.

A roster like this can't happen without the support of many great individuals whom deserve a ton of credit - I hope I remember everyone and spell their names correct

ttbucsfan001 created our spreadsheet
teeds - my partner in crime, created a ton of players, handled the transactions and organizing of players we needed to create and replace
cultbuscus - spent countless hours creating and helping input ratings
sky63 - assisted for several days importing the OSFM players
DarionC14 - did 90% of the hitter re-rate
mmorg - did most of the OSFM re-rate
totte - helped with testing the roster
davis25 - helped create players
shaneomac - helped with rating and player creations

I ask that if you have constructive criticism that is fine but do not use this thread to complain. There is well over 100 hours poured into this project and several broken relationships and marriages.......lol

The roster is a little late this year, but I am very proud to put my name behind it. I hope everyone enjoys this and if you want the version with Pitch Edits it will be completed and released ASAP.

Thank you to all the helpers and the community for helping us along the way with suggestions, transaction updates and just entertaining posts.

The roster can be found in the Vault under the following name:

OSFM HYBRID 2014 V1.............psn Crapinmyshoe

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# 41 Mattchu12 @ 05/27/14 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Redskins_Hokies
So wait why do some players like Bryce Harper, Zimmerman, and Gio not have their actual photos?
Because they're not on the MLB team. If you move them to MLB, they'll get their pictures back.
 
# 42 Mattchu12 @ 05/27/14 10:01 PM
Quick Question:

Since the ratings seem to be weighed by position, if I were to change the primary position of a player (example: Peter O'Brien has moved to the outfield from catcher in the Yankeees' organization, probably for good), would that mess up the offensive ratings that you gave him because now he's not at catcher and he'd need different ratings for a different position? Thanks!
 
# 43 teeds @ 05/27/14 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by blahweee
Seems pretty reasonable, they use a 100 point scale too.

Could average instincts and 1st step for reaction rating.
Average hands and release for fielding, then arm accuracy and strength are there.

Rookies would be SOL, but could work with them based on how they compare in available metrics like UZR when looking at the other guys who have scouting report info….though same goes for MiLB players and they don't even have UZR data.
If anyone can convert these into ratings, we might be able to use them...

http://tinyurl.com/lfrmqhz
 
# 44 Madden's Jowels @ 05/27/14 10:25 PM
subbed.

Will download roster after game 4 is over. I'm a little alarmed at some of the fielding stuff you guys are talking about though. How does Puig get a 51 arm strength lol.
 
# 45 URBYJT @ 05/27/14 10:30 PM
Just simmed a season with these rosters to see what the stats would look like. In the process I see the crazy trades the computer makes. I'll probably run my franchise with CPU trades off. Not realistic but the computer was getting a little crazy.
 
# 46 michaelhalljr @ 05/27/14 10:35 PM
Awesome job guys!! Jacked for the pitch edits!!

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# 47 blahweee @ 05/27/14 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by teeds
If anyone can convert these into ratings, we might be able to use them...

http://tinyurl.com/lfrmqhz
Player Position Rea Fld ASt AACC blk
Manny Machado 3B 84 88 90 88
Chasey Headley 3B 66 68 60 64
Miguel Cabrera 3B 33 45 73 61

Andrelton Simm SS 87 90 91 88
Alexi Ramirez SS 63 58 65 50
Jed Lowrie SS 31 46 34 35

Dustin Pedroia 2B 81 86 52 81
Jason Kipnis 2B 58 50 47 58
Daniel Murphy 2B 41 28 47 50

Paul Goldschmidt 1B 70 71 55 66
Chris Davis 1B 44 50 57 44
Prince Fielder 1B 23 15 27 26



Yadier Molina C 70 89 89 95 85
Miguel Montero C 44 58 59 58 33
JP Arencebia C 20 3 36 4 44

Gerardo Parra RF 76 86 86 91
Nick Markakis RF 54 66 57 70
Daniel Nava RF 41 43 37 50

Carlos Gomez CF 83 77 79 72
Colby Rasmus CF 67 53 49 22
Shin-Soo Choo CF 37 45 56 64

Alex Gordon LF 81 86 83 93
Alfonso Soriano LF 42 43 62 47
Matt Holliday LF 22 28 45 32
 
# 48 blahweee @ 05/27/14 10:38 PM
I have a spreadsheet that is a bit clearer but hopefully that gets the message across….
 
# 49 teeds @ 05/27/14 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by blahweee
Player Position Rea Fld ASt AACC blk
Manny Machado 3B 84 88 90 88
Chasey Headley 3B 66 68 60 64
Miguel Cabrera 3B 33 45 73 61

Andrelton Simm SS 87 90 91 88
Alexi Ramirez SS 63 58 65 50
Jed Lowrie SS 31 46 34 35

Dustin Pedroia 2B 81 86 52 81
Jason Kipnis 2B 58 50 47 58
Daniel Murphy 2B 41 28 47 50

Paul Goldschmidt 1B 70 71 55 66
Chris Davis 1B 44 50 57 44
Prince Fielder 1B 23 15 27 26



Yadier Molina C 70 89 89 95 85
Miguel Montero C 44 58 59 58 33
JP Arencebia C 20 3 36 4 44

Gerardo Parra RF 76 86 86 91
Nick Markakis RF 54 66 57 70
Daniel Nava RF 41 43 37 50

Carlos Gomez CF 83 77 79 72
Colby Rasmus CF 67 53 49 22
Shin-Soo Choo CF 37 45 56 64

Alex Gordon LF 81 86 83 93
Alfonso Soriano LF 42 43 62 47
Matt Holliday LF 22 28 45 32
Quote:
Originally Posted by blahweee
I have a spreadsheet that is a bit clearer but hopefully that gets the message across….
I like it but I can't wrap my head around ratings in the 20's for Major Leaguers. I wonder how these play out in game.
 
# 50 blahweee @ 05/27/14 10:43 PM
No idea, maybe way too many errors, we could +10 across the board and it might work out, keep in mind the 20s are the worst at their position...
 
# 51 buczneverlose @ 05/27/14 10:54 PM
George Springer with B potential?!!!
 
# 52 buczneverlose @ 05/27/14 10:55 PM
MCCUTCHEN MVP RATED 81?!
 
# 53 KayOtic723 @ 05/27/14 10:58 PM
I love the OS community but guys he said don't worry about overall that also mean the ratings period! play about 20 games first i am playing game one and to me IMO its night and day difference in a good way
 
# 54 Madden's Jowels @ 05/27/14 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted by KayOtic723
I love the OS community but guys he said don't worry about overall that also mean the ratings period! play about 20 games first i am playing game one and to me IMO its night and day difference in a good way

Don't look at the overall ratings, sure, I can buy that. I know these were tuned to play a great game and not to have pretty overall ratings for the stars. I'm 100% down with that.


But how do you justify Ryan Braun's arm strength being like 25 points higher than Puig's? Those most certainly couldn't be based off ZiPs projections so somebody made a judgement call on that one and definitely goofed it up. That's just a physical trait, no skill involved. Puig has a cannon. I'm guessing it was probably a data entry error, somebody reading the wrong cell off a spreadsheet.
 
# 55 JohnDoe8865 @ 05/27/14 11:03 PM
Has anyone with a copy of OOTP 14/15 considered seeing how the defensive ratings in that game might translate to MLB 14? Just a thought, trying to offer another possible solution.
 
# 56 LanteriX @ 05/27/14 11:03 PM
Rosters look great on first glance.

The fielding ratings being a problem seems quite overstated. There's a few outliers here and there, but I really wouldn't think that any kind of overhaul is really necessary at all. Rather, just clean up some of the mistakes here and there.
 
# 57 COMMISSIONERHBK9 @ 05/27/14 11:04 PM
is the beard situation that bad for the ps4 if i use these rosters. i am using the knight roster and i havent really seen an issues on the ps4. i need to know if i should restart and use this. once again willard good job. i had your roster last year
 
# 58 URBYJT @ 05/27/14 11:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Madden's Jowels
Don't look at the overall ratings, sure, I can buy that. I know these were tuned to play a great game and not to have pretty overall ratings for the stars. I'm 100% down with that.


But how do you justify Ryan Braun's arm strength being like 25 points higher than Puig's? Those most certainly couldn't be based off ZiPs projections so somebody made a judgement call on that one and definitely goofed it up. That's just a physical trait, no skill involved. Puig has a cannon. I'm guessing it was probably a data entry error, somebody reading the wrong cell off a spreadsheet.
Probably has to do with the limited data on Puig. They said they'd fix it.

Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnDoe8865
Has anyone with a copy of OOTP 14/15 considered seeing how the defensive ratings in that game might translate to MLB 14? Just a thought, trying to offer another possible solution.
That's a good idea. Though it seems like OOTP goes more indepth that it might be hard to make it translate, I dunno.
 
# 59 Madden's Jowels @ 05/27/14 11:10 PM
^^^ I like the idea of using the Fangraphs fan scouting or whatever


Although, it's tempting to just stick the ratings into the game as is since they're base-100 and base-99, I'm guessing we'd get better results by coming up with some sort of algorithm haha.
 
# 60 blahweee @ 05/27/14 11:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Madden's Jowels
^^^ I like the idea of using the Fangraphs fan scouting or whatever


Although, it's tempting to just stick the ratings into the game as is since they're base-100 and base-99, I'm guessing we'd get better results by coming up with some sort of algorithm haha.
Yeah could maybe do something along the lines of making the floor 20 for MLB players and scaling the other rating to and 80 point scale and adding it to the base 20s, would avoid the low 20 values that would no doubt be error prone as eff.
 


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