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Ok, after much anticipation we finally have the OSFM Hybrid roster ready for release.

What is the OSFM Hybrid you ask?

It is the OSFM Full Minors with a full ratings re-rate. It gives a uniform blanket rating system that brings everything together and makes very realistic game play.

What does this include?

The roster is based off the OSFM, which if you don't know is a collection of great contributors, run by Knight165 who create minor league players and major league players who were not included in this game.

We have re-rated all stats for both minor leaguers whom we had info for as well as all the SCEA original players who came in the game.

The stats we use are ZiPs preseason ratings created by Dan Szymborski, they are gathered into a spreadsheet and formulated to match ratings values in the game.

All hitting and defense ratings have been changed as well as pitcher ratings not including Pitch Edits - they will be included in V2.

Potentials were also reviewed and altered where necessary.

The roster has accurate 40 man rosters to today's date, as well as accurate as possible hitting lineups and pitching lineups for all levels. Players who are currently on 60 day disabled lists or suspended are not included in their respective teams 40 man roster and can be found on the A ball roster.

Also we have added many AAA and AA players who were not included in the OSFM - some prospects may have been removed or been put in the FA Pool to make room for players who should be in the roster - you really don't want very young top prospects playing in AAA or even AA.

Stance, Motion and Equipment updates were done where we knew changes needed to be made or could be made.

PLEASE DO NOT LOOK AT THE OVERALLS FOR PLAYERS AS A WAY TO GUAGE THEIR VALUE Players overalls are weighted by a variety of things based on the position they play. With this re-rate most players did go down in overalls, and really the league balances out to where it should be. Player ratings are what they are. We made some adjustments to physical attributes but the pure stat based attributes are the same base across the board.

This is what the Overalls should represent

90+ - All Star and Superstar Caliber

80+ - high end regulars and All Starts

70+ - everyday players and bench players

60+ - Bench players and career minor league players

50+ - low level prospects and Organization fillers

Players Ratings have not been updated yet - that will be included in V2.1, so players like Solarte, Bettances, Melky Cabrera, Mark Buerhle to name a few will have lower ratings then you would expect based on their performances so far this season.

A roster like this can't happen without the support of many great individuals whom deserve a ton of credit - I hope I remember everyone and spell their names correct

ttbucsfan001 created our spreadsheet
teeds - my partner in crime, created a ton of players, handled the transactions and organizing of players we needed to create and replace
cultbuscus - spent countless hours creating and helping input ratings
sky63 - assisted for several days importing the OSFM players
DarionC14 - did 90% of the hitter re-rate
mmorg - did most of the OSFM re-rate
totte - helped with testing the roster
davis25 - helped create players
shaneomac - helped with rating and player creations

I ask that if you have constructive criticism that is fine but do not use this thread to complain. There is well over 100 hours poured into this project and several broken relationships and marriages.......lol

The roster is a little late this year, but I am very proud to put my name behind it. I hope everyone enjoys this and if you want the version with Pitch Edits it will be completed and released ASAP.

Thank you to all the helpers and the community for helping us along the way with suggestions, transaction updates and just entertaining posts.

The roster can be found in the Vault under the following name:

OSFM HYBRID 2014 V1.............psn Crapinmyshoe

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# 321 ggabriel @ 05/29/14 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Troopershorty51
I don't think anyone responded to this earlier so I just wanted to quote it again to make sure you guys saw it.

Did you guys expect this to happen and are you happy that it does? Personally I kind of like it as it means that not every 34-35 year old on your team is going to majorly decline.

I did see the same thing, Adam Dunn increased all his attributes by 8 in the first season I simmed. I'm not sure if there is a solution. It seems that most overalls were reduced during the re-rate process. As a result, the game is interpreting a 60-something Overall with B potential, and moving him up closer to his potential rating, despite being on the wrong side of 30.

A possible solution could be reducing the potentials of the old, over-the-hill guys, by my understanding is that future draft classes are based on the players who retire.
 
# 322 thescottyglasgow @ 05/29/14 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by KBLover
Do you think this also means the draftees and prospects as they develop will be not as likely to be "too good" for the roster?

I realize it can't be helped, but perhaps the complete edits have alleviated the possibilities some.
Yeah this is what I was talking about earlier when I sim ahead to the future the prospects are too good they need their potentials edited because I think a lot of them get a huge increase to their potentials when they are tearing up the minors in the franchise and others like polanco taveras russell need to be scaled back some because they start out way too high above machado and puig. Its not that big of a deal to me because I noticed no one really responded to my first message so if only a couple of us are having the "potential" problem I will let it rest.
 
# 323 rovert22044 @ 05/29/14 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by ggabriel
I did see the same thing, Adam Dunn increased all his attributes by 8 in the first season I simmed. I'm not sure if there is a solution. It seems that most overalls were reduced during the re-rate process. As a result, the game is interpreting a 60-something Overall with B potential, and moving him up closer to his potential rating, despite being on the wrong side of 30.

A possible solution could be reducing the potentials of the old, over-the-hill guys, by my understanding is that future draft classes are based on the players who retire.
Yeah this might do it. The only problem is with a lower potential and higher age, overalls drop like flies. For example, when I did a test franchise with my Astros with the OSFM V2 rosters, Scott Feldman's overall decreased quite a bit. It kinda sucked since he's been a great pitcher this year.

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# 324 jcsauber @ 05/29/14 01:42 PM
Did the Phillies get any updates in the newest version? Mainly Utley.
 
# 325 Metsfan31 @ 05/29/14 01:52 PM
When V2 is released can someone also include a offline link as well?
 
# 326 giantsteps @ 05/29/14 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Metsfan31
When V2 is released can someone also include a offline link as well?
Yes, Willard said he would be doing so.
 
# 327 D3C4K @ 05/29/14 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by rovert22044
Yeah this might do it. The only problem is with a lower potential and higher age, overalls drop like flies. For example, when I did a test franchise with my Astros with the OSFM V2 rosters, Scott Feldman's overall decreased quite a bit. It kinda sucked since he's been a great pitcher this year.

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I was actually planning on changing the potentials of quite a few veterans on the roster. How much did you lower Feldman's potential for his overall to drop like that? I figure there's a chance that an older player's potential rating may have to be really high to keep him viable at his age (Tim Hudson's 99 Potential rating, for example). I was hoping I could drop the near 40 year old players to a B or C potential rating, but if that means their overall drops 25 points halfway into the 1st season of my franchise, I'll have to make other plans...
 
# 328 msmith05 @ 05/29/14 02:16 PM
So v2 tonight sometime?
 
# 329 Willard76 @ 05/29/14 02:19 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by KBLover
Do you think this also means the draftees and prospects as they develop will be not as likely to be "too good" for the roster?

I realize it can't be helped, but perhaps the complete edits have alleviated the possibilities some.
It is possible, but in the past it has still played well the next season - depends on how you use your training also
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Originally Posted by nola2728
So for V.2 are all pitch edits entered for all pitchers jeezy had listed or were some left out?
All

Quote:
Originally Posted by Troopershorty51
I don't think anyone responded to this earlier so I just wanted to quote it again to make sure you guys saw it.

Did you guys expect this to happen and are you happy that it does? Personally I kind of like it as it means that not every 34-35 year old on your team is going to majorly decline.
Howard was projected around there, but you could test again and have him bomb the next time. Just the way the game works

Quote:
Originally Posted by ggabriel
I did see the same thing, Adam Dunn increased all his attributes by 8 in the first season I simmed. I'm not sure if there is a solution. It seems that most overalls were reduced during the re-rate process. As a result, the game is interpreting a 60-something Overall with B potential, and moving him up closer to his potential rating, despite being on the wrong side of 30.

A possible solution could be reducing the potentials of the old, over-the-hill guys, by my understanding is that future draft classes are based on the players who retire.
Think of last year - old players took big big nose dives the first season and useless in year 2. This way the player still gets a bit better and also doesn't retire early

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Originally Posted by thescottyglasgow
Yeah this is what I was talking about earlier when I sim ahead to the future the prospects are too good they need their potentials edited because I think a lot of them get a huge increase to their potentials when they are tearing up the minors in the franchise and others like polanco taveras russell need to be scaled back some because they start out way too high above machado and puig. Its not that big of a deal to me because I noticed no one really responded to my first message so if only a couple of us are having the "potential" problem I will let it rest.
We could look at them. We didn't touch potentials much of OSFM players and only tweaked MLB players

Quote:
Originally Posted by rovert22044
Yeah this might do it. The only problem is with a lower potential and higher age, overalls drop like flies. For example, when I did a test franchise with my Astros with the OSFM V2 rosters, Scott Feldman's overall decreased quite a bit. It kinda sucked since he's been a great pitcher this year.

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Guys like that you may want to bump a bit

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Originally Posted by jcsauber
Did the Phillies get any updates in the newest version? Mainly Utley.
Utley got love
 
# 330 thescottyglasgow @ 05/29/14 02:20 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by msmith05
So v2 tonight sometime?
3-5 Willard said.
 
# 331 sportsnut4life @ 05/29/14 02:32 PM
Did Jeff Samardzija get any TLC?
 
# 332 msmith05 @ 05/29/14 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by thescottyglasgow
3-5 Willard said.
he also said that depended on some things getting done...I just want to start my franchise with pitch edits...I am one of the few that doesn't care about the stats at the end of the year and how they sim
 
# 333 cnemergut @ 05/29/14 02:45 PM
Not a big deal really but for the Red sox both Rubby De La Rosa and Brandon Workman need to be changed to SP. Both have not made a relief appearance this year and only starts. Also Drake Britton needs to be changed to a RP since he has not made a single start this year in AAA. Just thought i'd mention these for either the Hybrid guys or the people who want to change it themselves like I have been doing.
 
# 334 Willard76 @ 05/29/14 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by sportsnut4life
Did Jeff Samardzija get any TLC?
1 pitcher got updated - and only because he is now achieving what was expected of his career.

Normally if we do pitcher edits it is at mid season. I thought about it with the start a handful of guys have had, but as a rule pitchers tend to fall back to their norm - which really sucks for us Blue Jays fans. Lol

Quote:
Originally Posted by msmith05
he also said that depended on some things getting done...I just want to start my franchise with pitch edits...I am one of the few that doesn't care about the stats at the end of the year and how they sim
I understand you just wanted, but after the explosion that happened with the rush to shelf V1, we are going over this puppy with a fine tooth comb
 
# 335 thescottyglasgow @ 05/29/14 02:59 PM
Thanks Willard on the regular SCEA roster there are 3 guys under 23 with a 96 or higher potential and above 60 overall so they do reach that potential... Trout Fernandez and Harper. Thats a pretty elite group and in this set the number jumps to 9 that doesn't even include Manny and Puig so I just don't see the justification of Polanco Baez Buxton Sano Russell and Braldey having a higher ceiling than those two.
 
# 336 Willard76 @ 05/29/14 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by thescottyglasgow
Thanks Willard on the regular SCEA roster there are 3 guys under 23 with a 96 or higher potential and above 60 overall so they do reach that potential... Trout Fernandez and Harper. Thats a pretty elite group and in this set the number jumps to 9 that doesn't even include Manny and Puig so I just don't see the justification of Polanco Baez Buxton Sano Russell and Braldey having a higher ceiling than those two.
Potentials do have the ability to change also so we need to be mindful of that
 
# 337 The Kid 24 @ 05/29/14 03:38 PM
How are the sim stats looking now? Better AVG's and higher HR's & RBI's?
 
# 338 BlowTheDorks2 @ 05/29/14 03:42 PM
I couldnt find anywhere else to post this, so here i go. Can anyone tell me the contact info Id need for asking the developers a question about live rosters? If not, heres my question if anyone here can answer it for me. Is there a way to go back and download a previous live roster if you happened to miss one?
 
# 339 msmith05 @ 05/29/14 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by BlowTheDorks2
I couldnt find anywhere else to post this, so here i go. Can anyone tell me the contact info Id need for asking the developers a question about live rosters? If not, heres my question if anyone here can answer it for me. Is there a way to go back and download a previous live roster if you happened to miss one?


I do not know the contact info however live rosters are just that....Live and up to date...if you didn't save it...you cant go back and get it
 
# 340 thescottyglasgow @ 05/29/14 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Willard76
Potentials do have the ability to change also so we need to be mindful of that
I am being mindful of that and sorry for harping on it but in my experience while those guys are playing 50-60 rated minor leaguers they get the boost to potential emails a lot and you hardly ever get them for someone in the majors so IMO they should start out with lower potentials and gain the boost when they earn it I think that is the system they are going for. Again its not a big deal its just something I have thought about and always wondered about and been testing over the years and it seems consistent.
 


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