Home
MLB 14 The Show News Post


Ok, after much anticipation we finally have the OSFM Hybrid roster ready for release.

What is the OSFM Hybrid you ask?

It is the OSFM Full Minors with a full ratings re-rate. It gives a uniform blanket rating system that brings everything together and makes very realistic game play.

What does this include?

The roster is based off the OSFM, which if you don't know is a collection of great contributors, run by Knight165 who create minor league players and major league players who were not included in this game.

We have re-rated all stats for both minor leaguers whom we had info for as well as all the SCEA original players who came in the game.

The stats we use are ZiPs preseason ratings created by Dan Szymborski, they are gathered into a spreadsheet and formulated to match ratings values in the game.

All hitting and defense ratings have been changed as well as pitcher ratings not including Pitch Edits - they will be included in V2.

Potentials were also reviewed and altered where necessary.

The roster has accurate 40 man rosters to today's date, as well as accurate as possible hitting lineups and pitching lineups for all levels. Players who are currently on 60 day disabled lists or suspended are not included in their respective teams 40 man roster and can be found on the A ball roster.

Also we have added many AAA and AA players who were not included in the OSFM - some prospects may have been removed or been put in the FA Pool to make room for players who should be in the roster - you really don't want very young top prospects playing in AAA or even AA.

Stance, Motion and Equipment updates were done where we knew changes needed to be made or could be made.

PLEASE DO NOT LOOK AT THE OVERALLS FOR PLAYERS AS A WAY TO GUAGE THEIR VALUE Players overalls are weighted by a variety of things based on the position they play. With this re-rate most players did go down in overalls, and really the league balances out to where it should be. Player ratings are what they are. We made some adjustments to physical attributes but the pure stat based attributes are the same base across the board.

This is what the Overalls should represent

90+ - All Star and Superstar Caliber

80+ - high end regulars and All Starts

70+ - everyday players and bench players

60+ - Bench players and career minor league players

50+ - low level prospects and Organization fillers

Players Ratings have not been updated yet - that will be included in V2.1, so players like Solarte, Bettances, Melky Cabrera, Mark Buerhle to name a few will have lower ratings then you would expect based on their performances so far this season.

A roster like this can't happen without the support of many great individuals whom deserve a ton of credit - I hope I remember everyone and spell their names correct

ttbucsfan001 created our spreadsheet
teeds - my partner in crime, created a ton of players, handled the transactions and organizing of players we needed to create and replace
cultbuscus - spent countless hours creating and helping input ratings
sky63 - assisted for several days importing the OSFM players
DarionC14 - did 90% of the hitter re-rate
mmorg - did most of the OSFM re-rate
totte - helped with testing the roster
davis25 - helped create players
shaneomac - helped with rating and player creations

I ask that if you have constructive criticism that is fine but do not use this thread to complain. There is well over 100 hours poured into this project and several broken relationships and marriages.......lol

The roster is a little late this year, but I am very proud to put my name behind it. I hope everyone enjoys this and if you want the version with Pitch Edits it will be completed and released ASAP.

Thank you to all the helpers and the community for helping us along the way with suggestions, transaction updates and just entertaining posts.

The roster can be found in the Vault under the following name:

OSFM HYBRID 2014 V1.............psn Crapinmyshoe

Game: MLB 14 The ShowReader Score: 8.5/10 - Vote Now
Platform: PS Vita / PS3 / PS4Votes for game: 12 - View All
MLB 14 The Show Videos
Member Comments
# 301 jeschafer_1 @ 05/29/14 08:31 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by WaitTilNextYear
Activity since my last consolidation post. Names in bold (some of the numbering issues on the Twins from yesterday are still to be fixed. Mostly very minor numbering issues...and someone makes a good point on Susac who has contact in the 20s currently.

As for the relabeling of CPs..there are really only 1-3 CPs per organization per game. Seeing that there are 3 levels, I really don't see a problem.

Someone else mentioned a Jason Heyward position fix, but it's already fixed in the current version...not sure if he was looking at something else.

Plus what I PM'ed to you Willard. Enjoy!
Can this also be added in??

Also if you get around to it, could you put Brandon Cumpton in the starting rotation for the Pirates as he took over for Wandy since he got DFA'd. Thanks again!!
 
# 302 WaitTilNextYear @ 05/29/14 08:36 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jeschafer_1
Can this also be added in??

Also if you get around to it, could you put Brandon Cumpton in the starting rotation for the Pirates as he took over for Wandy since he got DFA'd. Thanks again!!
Can swap Cumpton into the 25-man in place of Vin Mazzaro for the Buccos as Mazzaro is currently off the 25-man.
 
# 303 a7martinez @ 05/29/14 08:50 AM
Was wondering if Hanley's arm was overlooked. In both games I played with the dodgers, routine plays to short are either beaten out at first or Barely out. I understand Hanley isn't an outstanding defender, but he has a pretty good arm to counter the fact that he does not have the greatest of ranges. I slight bump in arm strength seems appropriate... Turner seems to lob the ball from 3rd, but since he is a bench player its not as noticeable, Hanley on the other hand, is noticeable

Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk
 
# 304 giantsteps @ 05/29/14 08:54 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by a7martinez
Was wondering if Hanley's arm was overlooked. In both games I played with the dodgers, routine plays to short are either beaten out at first or Barely out. I understand Hanley isn't an outstanding defender, but he has a pretty good arm to counter the fact that he does not have the greatest of ranges. I slight bump in arm strength seems appropriate... Turner seems to lob the ball from 3rd, but since he is a bench player its not as noticeable, Hanley on the other hand, is noticeable

Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk

Runners beating out singles can be heavily affected by the slider settings you're using.
 
# 305 msmith05 @ 05/29/14 09:24 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Redskins_Hokies
So do we have a timeframe for V2 and V2 OD?
Willard said between 3 and 5pm today
 
# 306 Willard76 @ 05/29/14 10:16 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by msmith05
Willard said between 3 and 5pm today
This all depends on what transactions or player updates still need to be done. I am hoping I can rely on a specific assistant who currently has the master roster to make some of these adjustments for me. I still have about 20 players who need some TLC in ratings.

Great news is waittilnextyear sent me a great PM detailing stats and such from tests he ran overnight and we got numbers more where we want them. I haven't had a chance to completely dive into them but what I saw was very good and with what I am going to tweak tonight we should be as close as we can get.

Willard
 
# 307 thescottyglasgow @ 05/29/14 10:22 AM
Ok I stayed up a while doing some sims because I like to simulate really far ahead and see how guys pan out... obviously the prospects are being graded on last years potential for instance I think a good thing to do would be max potential for a prospect is 93 or 92 around the myers or yelich range... buxton russell polanco taveras Lindor and a lot of others ended up being better than everyone but Trout and Harper. This year it is very hard to get over a 92-93 potential for young guys. Harper Trout Puig Manny and Jose are the only 95+ off the top of my head. Should polanco taveras russell buxton lindor and countless others really end up being Mike Trout and better than Manny and Puig. I have looked at the 23 and younger guys and It seems like 91-93 tops IMO for pitchers thats the Cole Miller Teheran range and 92-93 for hitters thats the myers and yelich range. Sorry for the long post I didn't know if this bothered anyone else.
 
# 308 teeds @ 05/29/14 11:00 AM
I just want to make one thing clear because I'm reading other threads blasting defensive ratings. We didn't come up with those numbers and certainly didn't input them (Willard and myself). They were outsourced and we never went back to double check out of time constraints and trying to get something out to you guys. I personally have updated many many defensive ratings for this next update. We're OCD about accuracy too.

And we did not neglect prospects in favor of 30 year olds. Yes, we forgot Reese McGuire, but he was forgotten on the initial release of OSFM that we were working off of. It's no big deal because I had a McGuire sitting around with an edited face and ratings that we've easily imported in. We favor accuracy in AAA and AA more so than A-ball players who aren't top prospects in their organization and will continue to do so. If you look around we created probably 50-100 or more new players with accurate faces and stances/motions and repertoires.

We've been lucky to have some awesome guys join to help us and the work we've put into this is commensurate to a full-time job which Willard and myself already work. We seek out feedback that will help improve what we already have and just trust that we'll deliver because doing so is all we care about.
 
# 309 The Kid 24 @ 05/29/14 11:18 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by teeds
I just want to make one thing clear because I'm reading other threads blasting defensive ratings. We didn't come up with those numbers and certainly didn't input them (Willard and myself). They were outsourced and we never went back to double check out of time constraints and trying to get something out to you guys. I personally have updated many many defensive ratings for this next update. We're OCD about accuracy too.

And we did not neglect prospects in favor of 30 year olds. Yes, we forgot Reese McGuire, but he was forgotten on the initial release of OSFM that we were working off of. It's no big deal because I had a McGuire sitting around with an edited face and ratings that we've easily imported in. We favor accuracy in AAA and AA more so than A-ball players who aren't top prospects in their organization and will continue to do so. If you look around we created probably 50-100 or more new players with accurate faces and stances/motions and repertoires.

We've been lucky to have some awesome guys join to help us and the work we've put into this is commensurate to a full-time job which Willard and myself already work. We seek out feedback that will help improve what we already have and just trust that we'll deliver because doing so is all we care about.
I've read that stuff too... So Arenado has excellent fielding ratings now? Puig's throw strength fixed?
 
# 310 The Kid 24 @ 05/29/14 11:20 AM
Just curious... How many players were rated again for this release?
 
# 311 dpower15 @ 05/29/14 11:23 AM
Really looking forward to the v2 release tonight. I'm not a DBacks fan by any means, but I wanted to throw out that Pollock and Owings are two guys who deserve a boost in ratings. To be honest I haven't check your roster yet, I'm just trying to think of guys who have outperformed their SCEA ratings to this point in the season IRL.


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
 
# 312 Willard76 @ 05/29/14 11:31 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Kid 24
I've read that stuff too... So Arenado has excellent fielding ratings now? Puig's throw strength fixed?
Excellent depends on what you consider excellent. Real to life. Very much so. I actually bumped up Puig a bit more from the first change we made last night.

Quote:
Originally Posted by No Pressure
No Pressure here just dropping by today to say whatup. I helped input pitch edits to this last year so I know how many man hours go into this thing. It's the same thing every year though, somebody complaining about something and feeling as though they can put together a better roster. The thing I love about this roster is not only the in depth editing, but the fact that this roster basically takes multiple people's works to create one masterpiece. The beauty of it all really is at the end of the day, you have the power to put the finishing edits to YOUR liking before starting your franchise. Just never understood the complaining or skepticism. Anyways, keep truckin guys the light at the end of the tunnel is near.

NP
Well said and thank you. Now where the hell was your help this year......lol

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Kid 24
Just curious... How many players were rated again for this release?
I would guess well over 200 changes yesterday

Quote:
Originally Posted by dpower15
Really looking forward to the v2 release tonight. I'm not a DBacks fan by any means, but I wanted to throw out that Pollock and Owings are two guys who deserve a boost in ratings. To be honest I haven't check your roster yet, I'm just trying to think of guys who have outperformed their SCEA ratings to this point in the season IRL.


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
I know both of them crossed my search of updates yesterday, both ate currently on pace with original projections. Pollack did get a defensive upgrade
 
# 313 The Kid 24 @ 05/29/14 11:34 AM
Thanks Willard... Great to hear on everything.

Can't wait for these rosters!

Any idea on what other versions will be done yet?
 
# 314 archangelkatana @ 05/29/14 11:57 AM
sweet, I thought the first ofsm minors rosters were solid already, i will take a look at what you made here...just want to say stuff like this is why I always drop in to operationsports.com, I loved what mkharsh and his team did to create the ncaa hoops classics teams for nba2k14 on xbox360 as well, those are sweet too....this is my first year with the show, because I only have owned xbox, and xbox 360...but so far I really like it...I miss the pitching mechanics from mlb2k12 and that series...but for the show I use pure analog hitting and metered pitching and I am having a good time with it now....I hated pulse pitching, and havent really tried zone hitting but analog feels like a swing to me because you load up right as the pitcher lets go then swing through the ball, and you can check swing or switch to a bunt or drag bunt easily with the stick...I am not a big fan of the baserunning mechanics for franchise. I love the road to the show baserunnning, but for franchise...I seem to make a lot of baserunning mistakes so still working on it..I turned guess pitching off for now...and took off the meter for defensive throwing...I might put that back on for defensive throwing in the future if it gets too easy but right now the games are competitive and that is what I like, I made lots of defensive errors with the throwing meter so for now I turned it off...anyways just have to say I invested in my first sony console since the genesis...and I am a happy camper, I bought it as soon as I saw the build of rbi14...a very basic baseball mingame...that didnt do anything to get me to by an xbox one....so looks like I will be a sony gamer for this generation...
 
# 315 msmith05 @ 05/29/14 11:59 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Willard76
This all depends on what transactions or player updates still need to be done. I am hoping I can rely on a specific assistant who currently has the master roster to make some of these adjustments for me. I still have about 20 players who need some TLC in ratings.

Great news is waittilnextyear sent me a great PM detailing stats and such from tests he ran overnight and we got numbers more where we want them. I haven't had a chance to completely dive into them but what I saw was very good and with what I am going to tweak tonight we should be as close as we can get.

Willard

to be clear though...there will be a V2 release tonight correct?
 
# 316 Willard76 @ 05/29/14 12:01 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Kid 24
Thanks Willard... Great to hear on everything.

Can't wait for these rosters!

Any idea on what other versions will be done yet?
This will be it for me for a while, this has been full time work for 2 months, time to actually play the game, and get stuff done around the house.
 
# 317 KBLover @ 05/29/14 12:07 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by WaitTilNextYear
TL;DR: Post pitch edits hybrid with edits that will be released next is looking much better from a balance standpoint than V1.0 (I'm shocked!). Will continue to sim....

Do you think this also means the draftees and prospects as they develop will be not as likely to be "too good" for the roster?

I realize it can't be helped, but perhaps the complete edits have alleviated the possibilities some.
 
# 318 nola2728 @ 05/29/14 12:14 PM
So for V.2 are all pitch edits entered for all pitchers jeezy had listed or were some left out?
 
# 319 archangelkatana @ 05/29/14 12:15 PM
your team members should apply to work at gaming companies...I know that 2kgames is hiring a ton of new people for their company....they post on the nba2k twitter a lot of openings within the last 2 weeks...I am sure ea, 2k, sony, and other companies would love to bring you guys in, even if its just as a seasonal consultant for baseball....god bless....and let's play two the weather is good today

If anyone likes text based simulation fantasy baseball, sometimes we have teams open at http://www.nblbaseball.info we used the diamond mind baseball software...
 
# 320 Troopershorty51 @ 05/29/14 12:22 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Troopershorty51
Willard, I noticed something interesting and wasn't sure if it's intentional or not. Some aging veteran players can actually improve significantly through the season depending on their ratings. I had Ryan Howard in a sim go from a 63 or 62, whatever he is, to a 76 by the end of the year. He finished with a BA around .240 or .250, 33 homers and over 100 rbi's. Not sure if the huge increase was linked to his pretty good production or not, but I just thought it was interesting to see a vet actually improve instead of decline.
I don't think anyone responded to this earlier so I just wanted to quote it again to make sure you guys saw it.

Did you guys expect this to happen and are you happy that it does? Personally I kind of like it as it means that not every 34-35 year old on your team is going to majorly decline.
 


Post A Comment
This thread has been closed for new comments.