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NBA Live 14 is available for everyone today. Make sure you check out some of the reviews that have appeared online. As more reviews come in, we'll update this post.

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# 241 GisherJohn24 @ 11/21/13 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by apollooff320
I can't believe this thread got so many more post after my post. This section of the forum is usually dead. A lot of ppl just want to trash NBA Live 14 I see, so this is my last post since I was only playing it just to try it out myself and don't care for the fanboy crap. This is actually my first time playing Live since the PS2 and always played 2K basketball.

The demo is fully featured so you can actually tell if you'll like the game or not. The first time I played it I did not like it one bit but it was because I'm so used to 2K's controls and didn't know WTF to do. I already knew the graphics were going to look like sh!t so I wasn't expecting much. Since making my last post I probably played 5 more games.

Like I said the presentation is spot on. The game seems to have all the teams mascots and realistic courts compared to 2Ks. While playing on the Cavs court I noticed that the wine colored lights shined on the crowd like they do in real life. So EA did went all out on in the detail department.

As for game play and graphics that's where the game needs work. I couldn't figure out how to back down players with Bynum. Close shots went in to easy for the CPU. CPU teammates stand around and don't move when you stand at the top of the 3pt line, but I'm positive that's because i'm not running a play. Which I can't figure out. I press the run play button and I get things like iso, post up, ect....but not and actual plays. I did feel like it was easy to get into the paint if I set a perfect pick. Also finding out the game doesn't have sliders is sad. Rebounding is bad and I also don't like how the ball goes in the net it just looks weird.

When you install the Live demo enter your Origin account you can see EA is up****** the players in the background. It shows the roster records getting updated. Hell i'm still waiting for 2K to update next gen 2K14 rosters. Like I said before EA does have something here and the game isn't all that.. they just need to continue to build on it and fix those character graphics.
How can a presentation be spot on if the commentary is below average at best? I'm not here to trash NBA Live. I'm speaking facts on why I had faith they were finally going to make a good game and I feel they lied and left me again disappointed. I've bought every single Live on nearly every platform ever made back to Lakers VS Celts on the Sega Genesis. YES. Every one. IMO You're in denial if Live 10, 09 and even 08 do not play better than 14. Which they most certainly do in nearly every facet. I'm in no way suggesting there is no fun to be had ,but this doesn't feel like basketball to me. If it played like NBA Live 10, iwould have been happy, but its not even to 10's level. They can strut pretty menu screens, synergy, and roster updates every 20 minutes but does not erase the fact the game itself is close to being completely broken.
 
# 242 GisherJohn24 @ 11/21/13 03:27 PM
Good for you if you like it, I just don't see how you can ignore the most noticable and outrageous problems 14 has.
 
# 243 kpax1º1 @ 11/21/13 05:06 PM
"One of the things people ask is, how's it not going to happen again? Well number one, we can't let it happen again."

-Daryl Holt, NBA Live Vice President and GM.
 
# 244 GisherJohn24 @ 11/21/13 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by kpax1º1
"One of the things people ask is, how's it not going to happen again? Well number one, we can't let it happen again."

-Daryl Holt, NBA Live Vice President and GM.
What is "it" referring to?
 
# 245 kpax1º1 @ 11/21/13 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by GisherJohn24
What is "it" referring to?
Here's the full article from a few months ago.

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/article...building-years
 
# 246 GisherJohn24 @ 11/21/13 05:31 PM
"If I look at our path, we had a lot of disruption," O'Brien said. "The game moved from Vancouver to Orlando after limited success and some failure. We retooled our management team and our roster. And we're going to see some success this year. But in a couple years? Look out. We're going to be in a position where I think we'll be redefining this category."

Ill believe it when I see it. 14 is not a good start IMO
 
# 247 NoTiCe_O @ 11/21/13 06:10 PM
I think the game is pretty good, you just have to learn how to play, you can't go in expecting to play like 2k and have success on Live. Lives top mistake in my opinion was not putting a mandatory tutorial before you play the game to teach users how to play. For anyone just getting the game and deciding to play without reading up about it first it's terrible.

Yet, I've heard countless people say the more I play the more I like it.
 
# 248 GisherJohn24 @ 11/21/13 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by NoTiCe_O
I think the game is pretty good, you just have to learn how to play, you can't go in expecting to play like 2k and have success on Live. Lives top mistake in my opinion was not putting a mandatory tutorial before you play the game to teach users how to play. For anyone just getting the game and deciding to play without reading up about it first it's terrible.

Yet, I've heard countless people say the more I play the more I like it.
I did not expect it to be like 2k.
 
# 249 blackceasar @ 11/21/13 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by NoTiCe_O
I think the game is pretty good, you just have to learn how to play, you can't go in expecting to play like 2k and have success on Live. Lives top mistake in my opinion was not putting a mandatory tutorial before you play the game to teach users how to play. For anyone just getting the game and deciding to play without reading up about it first it's terrible.

Yet, I've heard countless people say the more I play the more I like it.
I didn't expect it to play like 2K either. You make it sound like people don't like it because it doesn't play like 2k. Well my friend you missed the entire point. You see, while I feel 2k is a better game.. I also realize 2k does NOT have a monopoly on "great basketball games". It's not like there can only be ONE great basketball game per year lol. Live had just as much opportunity to make a game, while different from 2k, just as good or BETTER in it's own right. They didnt. That's the general consensus.
 
# 250 GisherJohn24 @ 11/21/13 07:19 PM
Live 10 had a niche of fans and I bet the majority of guys who were posting on these Live boards loved Live 10. And we know Live 10 was nothing like 2k. But it was fun to play and was a good 2nd option. 14 isn't even on that same level 10 was
 
# 251 kingeo19 @ 11/21/13 08:04 PM
Adult consumers should not be making excuses for publishers or development studios. This poster realizes what many of the excuse makers do not.

davon6 from the NLSC forums:

To be fair I think the argument as to this being a new entry after a break isn't valid at all. These developers have had years... not months, not days, years to produce a decent product. Are we to suddenly believe this is EA's first time at making a hoops game? Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't EA create NBA games before 2k even existed? I mean live is not a new basketball IP by any stretch. The excuse that they are just starting out is bogus at best. I mean seriously, I'm in the graphic arts profession and if you gave me years to work on a project you better believe it better be some of the best stuff I've ever created.

The world functions on deadlines and time management gents. So the true question here would be what happened with their time management? So to say oh this is their first game back after a break is nonsense, there was no break. Supposedly these developers were working on this game during this so called break which is why they kept postponing a release. In fact did they not pull the game a couple times because of being unsatisfied with the state of the products development?

Don't get me wrong, I wanted the game to succeed like any fan of the live series from back in the good ole days but this is inexcusable. If anything, with the time they were given the game should have been a showcase of innovation and creativity. At some point you have to accept that this game is what it is, a lazy attempt to re-enter a market that EA helped to establish to begin with. Shame on them. Don't kid yourself, some bigwigs at EA will not be very happy with this. I'm fairly certain they don't like losing money and its games like this that can cost jobs.
 
# 252 The 24th Letter @ 11/21/13 08:17 PM
Maybe this is why Hibbert was playing like a guard in that review

http://youtu.be/W-dGxEVwiX8
 
# 253 jimbo22 @ 11/21/13 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by kingeo19
Adult consumers should not be making excuses for publishers or development studios. This poster realizes what many of the excuse makers do not.

davon6 from the NLSC forums:

To be fair I think the argument as to this being a new entry after a break isn't valid at all. These developers have had years... not months, not days, years to produce a decent product. Are we to suddenly believe this is EA's first time at making a hoops game? Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't EA create NBA games before 2k even existed? I mean live is not a new basketball IP by any stretch. The excuse that they are just starting out is bogus at best. I mean seriously, I'm in the graphic arts profession and if you gave me years to work on a project you better believe it better be some of the best stuff I've ever created.

The world functions on deadlines and time management gents. So the true question here would be what happened with their time management? So to say oh this is their first game back after a break is nonsense, there was no break. Supposedly these developers were working on this game during this so called break which is why they kept postponing a release. In fact did they not pull the game a couple times because of being unsatisfied with the state of the products development?

Don't get me wrong, I wanted the game to succeed like any fan of the live series from back in the good ole days but this is inexcusable. If anything, with the time they were given the game should have been a showcase of innovation and creativity. At some point you have to accept that this game is what it is, a lazy attempt to re-enter a market that EA helped to establish to begin with. Shame on them. Don't kid yourself, some bigwigs at EA will not be very happy with this. I'm fairly certain they don't like losing money and its games like this that can cost jobs.

Thats all well and good, but does he know how many of the team that made NBA Live 14 worked on previous iterations if the game??. Until he does that is nothing more than an absolute load of bluster by a man (or woman) standing on a soap box shouting at his monitor.
 
# 254 kingeo19 @ 11/21/13 09:00 PM
It's clearly understood that they didn't have four years to work on any specific title but they've had four years to put out a quality title.
They've continued to stub their toe, break their foot, and now break their leg. These weren't accidents, they're self inflicted injuries. EA Sports and the development teams that have worked on the failed titles misled and mismanaged the series. Poor design, planning, execution, and messaging has led them to their earned ridicule.

If you do enough searching you'll find that EA Sports has been working on an an NBA series title for the last 4 years.
There are at least two credible outlets, Pastapadre (Bryan Wiedey) and Kotakus-Owen Good who have covered the failings in the recent years.


Nobody who plays or purchases COD, FIFA or Madden annually would stand for this ineptitude.

Elite 11...basically recalled shipped games
Elite 12/NBA Live 12...nothing, but Peter Moore quoted as saying there was an up and running build
Live 13...xbox live/psn only download that was cancelled when the horrid game video leaked (majornelson basically confirmed that what we saw was what we were getting)
Live 14...polished version of Live 13 that they hid until release

EA Sports has gotten off easy in all this. Luckily for them basketball doesn't drive sports gaming like both futbol and football!
 
# 255 jimbo22 @ 11/21/13 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by kingeo19
It's clearly understood that they didn't have four years to work on any specific title but they've had four years to put out a quality title.
They've continued to stub their toe, break their foot, and now break their leg. These weren't accidents, they're self inflicted injuries. EA Sports and the development teams that have worked on the failed titles misled and mismanaged the series. Poor design, planning, execution, and messaging has led them to their earned ridicule.

If you do enough searching you'll find that EA Sports has been working on an an NBA series title for the last 4 years.
There are at least two credible outlets, Pastapadre (Bryan Wiedey) and Kotakus-Owen Good who have covered the failings in the recent years.


Nobody who plays or purchases COD, FIFA or Madden annually would stand for this ineptitude.

Elite 11...basically recalled shipped games
Elite 12/NBA Live 12...nothing, but Peter Moore quoted as saying there was an up and running build
Live 13...xbox live/psn only download that was cancelled when the horrid game video leaked (majornelson basically confirmed that what we saw was what we were getting)
Live 14...polished version of Live 13 that they hid until release

EA Sports has gotten off easy in all this. Luckily for them basketball doesn't drive sports gaming like both futbol and football!
Are you suggesting that NBA Live 14 is a polished version of 13?? even when you consider that the lead gameplay designer, Scott O'Gallagher was only brought onboard last July in the gameplay designer role (this was confirmed by him on a stream I was watching in the last day of so).

Are you suggesting that he has came in with his own vision of how he wants the game and has just said "f*ck it, lets just polish up 13"?? Are you really saying this?

Also coming into this is the move of the series to Tiburon after 11's debacle. How many from the old studio moved to Tiburon?

There's absolutely no doubt that NBA Live has been an absolute mess since 10 was released and Elite was put into development and I whole heartedly agree with your last point about EA getting away with it, the marketing for this version was bordering on embarrassing. They should be getting it in the ear but does the development team deserve the vitriol and bile that has been put their way?? I have my doubts as this is a video game and nothing else.
 
# 256 Rules @ 11/21/13 09:52 PM
Watching the videos, it looks similar to the older versions of college basketball on the Xbox.
 
# 257 GisherJohn24 @ 11/21/13 10:10 PM
The more I play I see some qualities. But I'm still not able to ignore the most glaring issues.
 
# 258 Eddie1967 @ 11/21/13 11:07 PM
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Originally Posted by blackceasar
I think some of the reviews (and peoples comments)

It's like if you are a fat chick, with a pretty face and you go into a nightclub and you're literally the ONLY girl in there... someones going to hit on you... maybe even some really good looking guys when it's last call, and he's had a few too many... BUT when you're a fat chick with a pretty face and you walk into a bar and there's 100 other chicks in there... well... do you really expect the hottest guys in there to hit on you?
 
# 259 kingeo19 @ 11/21/13 11:16 PM
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Originally Posted by jimbo22
Are you suggesting that NBA Live 14 is a polished version of 13?? even when you consider that the lead gameplay designer, Scott O'Gallagher was only brought onboard last July in the gameplay designer role (this was confirmed by him on a stream I was watching in the last day of so).

Are you suggesting that he has came in with his own vision of how he wants the game and has just said "f*ck it, lets just polish up 13"?? Are you really saying this?

Also coming into this is the move of the series to Tiburon after 11's debacle. How many from the old studio moved to Tiburon?

There's absolutely no doubt that NBA Live has been an absolute mess since 10 was released and Elite was put into development and I whole heartedly agree with your last point about EA getting away with it, the marketing for this version was bordering on embarrassing. They should be getting it in the ear but does the development team deserve the vitriol and bile that has been put their way?? I have my doubts as this is a video game and nothing else.

http://operationsportspressrow.libsy...tt-o-gallagher

In this same podcast OG says he thought Live 13 was a good game and it should have been released.

Go and watch the leaked gameplay footage that featured the HEAT and Thunder. Does that look like a good game, a good development effort?
For some of the older pc folks out there, you cant tell me that Live
13 player movement doesn't resemble ol school Prince of Persia.

Looking at leaked gameplay was the only way we could make a judgment on Live 13 since EA never let consumers play the game. So now Live 14 is finally released and to my eyes the game looks like a polished version of 13. Animations and player models were cleaned up quite a bit but it's still lacking. Nobody knows what Live 13 felt like because nobody was able to play it. How do we know that it didn't feel similar to what Live 14 is today? Does anybody know how much of an impact the IGNITE engine would make to a basketball title?
 
# 260 KyotoCarl @ 11/22/13 12:05 AM
Too me Live 14 looks very much like the gameplay video of Live 13 we got a year ago. It's clear that's the game they based Live 14 of.

This game will just be a demo download for me. I was planning on buying it but I'm not going to spend any money on this product. Hopefully they keep working and have a more solid product next year.
 


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