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NBA Live 14 Has Arrived, Post Your Impressions Here

09:47 AM - November 19, 2013 by Steve_OS

EA Sports has shipped NBA Live 14 today. Please play a few games and post your impressions here. As always, we'd like to see how the community feels about the game.

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# 1541 The 24th Letter @ 01/22/14 12:28 AM

This big man issue has been bothering me so I ran a little test on All Star/6 minutes...

I had Amir Johnson run point, attempt to score every basket and this is how I fared:

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When I wasn't getting transition buckets, I was able to ISO past any defender pretty easily. I'm not sure how this started, but it needs to be a top priority for the devs...

# 1542 alexthegreat @ 01/22/14 02:04 AM

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Originally Posted by The 24th Letter


	This big man issue has been bothering me so I ran a little test on All Star/6 minutes... I had Amir Johnson run point, attempt to score every basket and this is how I fared: Spoiler When I wasn't getting transition buckets, I was able to ISO past any defender pretty easily. I'm not sure how this started, but it needs to be a top priority for the devs...

Wow

This has to get fixed

# 1543 shutdown10 @ 01/22/14 02:18 AM

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Originally Posted by The 24th Letter


	This big man issue has been bothering me so I ran a little test on All Star/6 minutes... I had Amir Johnson run point, attempt to score every basket and this is how I fared: Spoiler When I wasn't getting transition buckets, I was able to ISO past any defender pretty easily. I'm not sure how this started, but it needs to be a top priority for the devs...

That is why I'm not impressed with the A.I. aka (Human Intelligence) in this game. I have done a similar experiment with Duncan, D.Howard, D.Cousins, Hibbert, and L. Aldridge. The CPU's defense's A.I. should recognize that you are bringing the ball down with a big man with limited ball handling skills and react to it, but they don't. They need to fix these things if they want to be taken seriously.

# 1544 alexthegreat @ 01/22/14 03:08 AM

3's are still a major problem online. It's almost impossible to block them, especially when you are playing somebody straight up.

Had somebody hit 7 fully contested 3s with Klay in one half earlier. Even when I double teamed him, he just went straight up like he was in the gym by himself and hit nothing but net.

# 1545 El_Poopador @ 01/22/14 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Walt Frazier


	WTF Thank you for the Bogut kick out video. Yes, I "have" seen guys grab offensive rebounds and pass out, but it's honestly been about three times in over 30 games. I've seen Andy V do it once for Cleveland and I also saw Tyson do it once. But that's been it. 99.9% of the time it's simply go back up even if there's three defenders there. Re fast breaks, I've yet to see the cpu run a 2 on 1 or a 3 on 2. You asked how I know they can't do it? Well, I've never seen them do it in multiple games and if you don't even defend the fast break at all (i.e. move your defender to the side and take your hand off the controller) they still don't run hard and attack the hoop. They almost always pass to the wing. I am not sure why you are seeing things that so many people aren't. I can take my hands off the controller and not even defend and the cpu still runs through their play even with no one guarding them. There's no reactive AI at all. I am on PS4, I don't know if the XB1 is different. Everything 24th letter has posted as flaws in videos I see over and over when I play.

i just posted this in the video thread as well. but the ai does react pretty well. lebron comes off the screen and i cut him off with waiters. lebron kicks out to allen for the open three instead of trying to finish at the rim.

# 1546 WTF @ 01/22/14 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Walt Frazier


	WTF Thank you for the Bogut kick out video. Yes, I "have" seen guys grab offensive rebounds and pass out, but it's honestly been about three times in over 30 games. I've seen Andy V do it once for Cleveland and I also saw Tyson do it once. But that's been it. 99.9% of the time it's simply go back up even if there's three defenders there. Re fast breaks, I've yet to see the cpu run a 2 on 1 or a 3 on 2. You asked how I know they can't do it? Well, I've never seen them do it in multiple games and if you don't even defend the fast break at all (i.e. move your defender to the side and take your hand off the controller) they still don't run hard and attack the hoop. They almost always pass to the wing. I am not sure why you are seeing things that so many people aren't. I can take my hands off the controller and not even defend and the cpu still runs through their play even with no one guarding them. There's no reactive AI at all. I am on PS4, I don't know if the XB1 is different. Everything 24th letter has posted as flaws in videos I see over and over when I play.

No worries. That's why I post what I do. For whatever reason, everyone seems to be playing a different game. I've tried the take the hands off of the controller, and 90% of the time, I'll get burnt. I have seen the run the play at all costs, but normally when it's not an offensive "attack" minded player. I tried with Steph and he'll simply run right past me and stop and pop a jumper.

The reason I took videos of the kickouts was because it didn't happen often before the game I played. Then I saw 3-4 3's hit off of them in one half against the Warriors. I don't know if it's something that they tweaked in the Synergy update, or what it is. Hopefully that's something that's easily tweakable for them. That game was starting to become one of the best experiences for me, but it was 2am and literally couldn't stay up for the 2nd half.

# 1547 mythreesons @ 01/22/14 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by shutdown10


	That is why I'm not impressed with the A.I. aka (Human Intelligence) in this game. I have done a similar experiment with Duncan, D.Howard, D.Cousins, Hibbert, and L. Aldridge. The CPU's defense's A.I. should recognize that you are bringing the ball down with a big man *with limited ball handling skills* and react to it, but they don't. They need to fix these things if they want to be taken seriously.

The problem is his ball-handling skills are not limited. In the cases I have seen you can't take the ball from him. What they need to do is seriously numb down his abilities as well as your suggestions of a more alert AI

# 1548 The 24th Letter @ 01/22/14 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by mythreesons


	The problem is his ball-handling skills are not limited. In the cases I have seen you can't take the ball from him. What they need to do is seriously numb down his abilities as well as your suggestions of a more alert AI

Yeah, definitely a combination of that, overall speed ratings...as well as the CPU's transition defense...if I can do that with Amir, imagine your athletic 5's..

# 1549 shutdown10 @ 01/22/14 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by mythreesons


	The problem is his ball-handling skills are not limited. In the cases I have seen you can't take the ball from him. What they need to do is seriously numb down his abilities as well as your suggestions of a more alert AI

I forgot to mention big men have point guard handling abilities in this game. When people pick up this game and experience these issues, they are going to assume the game is arcade. The A.I. is off on alot of things in this game.

# 1550 WTF @ 01/22/14 11:16 AM

I don't believe the AI is the one who's bringing the ball up like that. I've never had a big man dribble up the floor with crossovers, etc. I've had PF's and what not take a few hard dribbles up the floor and find the PG/SG/SF to continue up the floor.

I may be wrong, but that's not an AI issue, that's a tendency/ratings issue.

# 1551 loosey101 @ 01/22/14 11:30 AM

I've never had any big men shake me with dribbles, I did the UT challenge and faced the all-rebound team. Curry is my point guard and Duncan was theirs, I almost had a triple double with 13 steals. The video is evidence though, they need to fix this and lower their dribbling skills substantially.

# 1552 El_Poopador @ 01/22/14 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by loosey101


	I've never had any big men shake me with dribbles, I did the UT challenge and faced the all-rebound team. Curry is my point guard and Duncan was theirs, I almost had a triple double with 13 steals. The video is evidence though, they need to fix this and lower their dribbling skills substantially.

yea i never see the cpu doing it and i dont abuse it either so its not a big deal to me. but it can definitely be a huge negative for online play so it needs to be fixed.

# 1553 The 24th Letter @ 01/22/14 11:43 AM

Online play, head to head HUM as well....

Only time I have been effected by it in regards to the A.I is when did the UT challenge with bigs....as far as speed differentials go..

# 1554 Ermolli @ 01/22/14 11:54 AM

A couple things that I've noticed from the game are that defender don't close out aggressively towards shooters, they only contest shots from their spot trying to block or raising a hand even if they're too far to affect anything, instead I believe they should be rushing towards the shooter or at least contesting moving forward to the other player. This would be better since you'd have to choose better if you want to shoot with a long defender arriving or one with a big wingspan and also overaggressive defenders could be tricked by offensive players by drawing fouls.

The other thing is that defenders aren't physical enough specially against the best players. I've seen several gamewinners in this game where the offensive player freely moves to the spot on the court wherever he wants without any opposition from his defender. You'll notice that during those situations defenders bump, get very physical, even pull and grab the player to stop their opposition to move where they want.

# 1555 mythreesons @ 01/22/14 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Ermolli


	A couple things that I've noticed from the game are that defender don't close out aggressively towards shooters, they only contest shots from their spot trying to block or raising a hand even if they're too far to affect anything, instead I believe they should be rushing towards the shooter or at least contesting moving forward to the other player. This would be better since you'd have to choose better if you want to shoot with a long defender arriving or one with a big wingspan and also overaggressive defenders could be tricked by offensive players by drawing fouls. The other thing is that defenders aren't physical enough specially against the best players. I've seen several gamewinners in this game where the offensive player freely moves to the spot on the court wherever he wants without any opposition from his defender. You'll notice that during those situations defenders bump, get very physical, even pull and grab the player to stop their opposition to move where they want.

I've notice that the only time you get the bump animation is when the offensive player drives and you cut him off. You can't initate the contact. He has to come into your space THEN the bump animation. It doesn't seem that you can crowd him or bump him (even at the expense of a foul). I would like it better even if I were penalized occasionally.

# 1556 Ermolli @ 01/22/14 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by mythreesons


	I've notice that the only time you get the bump animation is when the offensive player drives and you cut him off. You can't initate the contact. He has to come into your space THEN the bump animation. It doesn't seem that you can crowd him or bump him (even at the expense of a foul). I would like it better even if I were penalized occasionally.

I wish it was like that, that playing physical can be a tool to defend but overusing it or being overaggressive costs you a foul but with the lack of fouls that this game currently has unfortunately I can't see it being implemented nor effective.

# 1557 Mikesthyme @ 01/22/14 12:52 PM

Im using golden state in dynasty mode and curry can basically do what ever he wants on any skill level.. its way to easy for him to get to the basketball... its the same all around the board.. if you have a good enough point guard then it shouldnt be a problem getting to the bucket.. I would like to see more help on the drive.. and more animatons please EA... yall came this Far dont drop the ball now..

# 1558 NimaAkaJoJo @ 01/22/14 02:51 PM

PiP is still messed up, had OKC score 100 on me in the paint. Blow out game 140-116. How on earth is it possible to have such a high scoring game at all? There is some core gameplay here EA needs to fix asap! I'm getting tired of seeing people drive to the basket, while i stand perfectly in front of them to block their lane..

I really do like this game, but it's frustration some times, and this recent game against OKC makes me wanna shelf this game, for now.

When it plays good, this game is perfect for me... Please EA make it play good at all times, and not on and off.

# 1559 El_Poopador @ 01/22/14 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by NimaAkaJoJo


	PiP is still messed up, had OKC score 100 on me in the paint. Blow out game 140-116. How on earth is it possible to have such a high scoring game at all? There is some core gameplay here EA needs to fix asap! I'm getting tired of seeing people drive to the basket, while i stand perfectly in front of them to block their lane.. I really do like this game, but it's frustration some times, and this recent game against OKC makes me wanna shelf this game, for now. When it plays good, this game is perfect for me... Please EA make it play good at all times, and not on and off.

i have seen some games that high scoring irl so its not out of the realm of possibility as long as its a rare occurrence. but i definitely agree about the amount of points in the paint.

# 1560 The 24th Letter @ 01/22/14 06:06 PM

I was just admiring El Poops LeBron kick out video....I wish the A.I wings would help as hard as he did in that vid...seems like they only come once you are deep in the paint....or it could just be the philosophy of the teams I am playing...

Do you guys notice help from the wings on drives?

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