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NBA Live 14 Has Arrived, Post Your Impressions Here

08:47 AM - November 19, 2013 by Steve_OS

EA Sports has shipped NBA Live 14 today. Please play a few games and post your impressions here. As always, we'd like to see how the community feels about the game.

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# 1441 Walt Frazier @ 01/19/14 01:55 AM

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Originally Posted by pdawg17


	So...I'm curious...why are you spending your time here? And BTW I agree about those issues but guess what? They can be fixed... can't tell you if they will be but that can be discussed down the road. In the meantime there is another basketball option you should know about if you need it. Your legit criticisms have been discussed ad nauseam by those of us that think this game has potential believe it or not... Sent from my TouchPad using Tapatalk

Why? Umm, it's called 'hoping the major game killing issues get addressed in this upcoming big patch'. Pointing flaws out. This is called an "impressions" thread.

And, ummm, yes I know there's another game. I have it and it's very, very good but has major bugs. It's a completely different game and company, that's why I don't mention it here. If you do want to make comparisons, I also have FIFA and it's dramatically better than NBA Live. Same company. No way EA would dare release FIFA in this state. In other words, they value their soccer community much more than their basketball community. If FIFA had appalling late game AI and the CPU never was called for offside or something, there'd be outrage and EA would fix it in weeks as football fans demand a simulation experience. NBA live late game AI is brain dead, who cares.

# 1442 WTF @ 01/19/14 09:05 AM

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	The only reason this game is not getting absolutely destroyed on here is that there's barely anyone playing it and those who are all 'want' to see the good bits rather than reality.

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	Late game AI-------------Late game AI is atrociously bad. If you play man to man D, the cpu doesn't take a shot if they have called an isolation play. They just bounce the ball and stand there and lose.

The game takes 2 for 1 opportunities when I play, and luckily, I haven't had the late game AI issue yet. They look for what they need at the time, and I've posted MANY videos of my late game. They foul me if they need, the push the ball if they need, and THEY CALL TIME OUTS after I score if there is still a chance for them to come back. I've posted my endings with these videos.

I do know that the late game AI bug exists, it's well documented. The Dev teams know it exists, it's well documented.

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	If they have called another play they sometimes shoot, but 90% of the time they call an isolation at the end of the game and just bounce the ball and get a shot clock violation.

Wrong on my end. I've posted several videos showing how my end of games go. I'm not sure why I'm not having an issue, but hopefully it continues and doesn't rear its ugly head during my play time. I've had 2-3 shot clock violations in my time with the game, and those were actual shot clock violations that I had to work for. I've had the 3 second in the lane glitch several times.

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	Time outs -------------The CPU never calls time outs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! How can the people here posting 100s of videos and impressions not notice this???????? The cpu never calls time outs!!!!!!!!!

Like above, they call it in crunch time, and that's good enough for me until the patch. It's well documented, and they are aware of it as well. I've given several lists, each after my extensive play time with the game, to the team showing my individual wants/needs. Do I need to come on here and post my list every time? You have plenty of people tearing the game down, you have plenty of people expressing their dismay. Believe it or not, I'm having an absolute blast with the game BECAUSE I'm not seeing the same things alot of guys are seeing. If I was seeing the end of game glitch, I wouldn't be playing the game until it was fixed.

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	Dynasty mode-------------I play Dynasty and I like to make my own subs. GUESS WHAT? If you use manual subs THE CPU DOESEN'T MAKE ANY SUBS ALL GAME. They play their starters 48 mins even when they are fatigues. This is appalling, yet none of the guys posting videos and propaganda seem to notice it!!!

Just use auto subs, and make your own manual subs anyway. It's not that difficult. That's what I do. And YES, I have put this on my list of needed fixes as well. But it's not a game killing bug by any means. Posting propaganda?

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	Online ------------- Online is TERRIBLE. Laggy and constant drops mid game. If there was a million people playing this game, it would be getting absolutely hammered for these flaws. Instead, no one is playing it and no one cares. But these are MAJOR flaws in the game. People NOT pointing this stuff out can only be not doing so as they are so obsessed with it they don't want to admit it's terrible. For anyone even considering buying it, note these flaws first.

I'm a grown man, I have limited time to play a game period. When I do get the opportunity to play, I play Live. If it was a terrible game IN MY EYES, I wouldn't waste what little time I get to play, playing the game.

You have your opinion, others have theirs. If you want to be at Operationsports then you need to learn how to respect others' opinions. I've posted my games, videos, screenshots, stats, etc.

If you don't like it, wait for the patch. No need to subject yourself to torture if you feel the game is terrible.

# 1443 WTF @ 01/19/14 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Walt Frazier


	You completely missed the point. Yes, you like it. And, yes, a dozen or so people here who don't care about late game AI and time outs, and rosters, and cpu using subs like it. I.e. people who enjoy a bit of casual fun. But the vast majority of people who want to play a simulation sports game actually want something like late game AI and time outs. Funny that. 2014 and the late game AI doesn't work and the CPU doesn't call times outs

Again, I see excellent Late Game AI. I've not seen a CPU more focused on taking advantage of it's 2 for 1 opportunities, and running a play to get a guy open.

Timeouts, they're there, just not throughout the game until the final 2 minutes. The dev team knows this, they're aware.

Rosters? I'm not sure where you're going with this one. I see no issues with the rosters, the latest roster has the BOS/MIA/GSW trade, and they're getting more and more timely.

Regardless, you go enjoy your very, very good game. All of your issues are known and the dev team are aware of these things. Just because you feel ALL of the posters who are playing Live should be experiencing these things and ranting about it, well is borderline trolling. Some of us aren't seeing these things. Some guys are seeing them, but not very often.

It's fine to not enjoy a game, or be upset at a game, but to try to force your opinion on others, or calling myself and other people propaganda posters won't be tolerated. You aren't sitting next to me when I'm playing a game, you have no clue what game I'm seeing.

# 1444 Pared @ 01/19/14 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by SageInfinite


	What does that mean as far as basketball videogames go? It's more fundamentally sound?

I read it as it does the basics of basketball well and is lacking in the more advanced areas of the sport. Aside from the bugs and other documented things it is lacking in like graphics, animations, personality, authenticity, etc., I would say the game is fundamentally sound. The basics of NBA basketball are there.

I personally wouldn't compare the two in this area. The game is also equally shallow in how the AI attacks the offensive game because the paint is so difficult to protect due to the lack of defensive contact. But don't let me answer for you, que.

# 1445 El_Poopador @ 01/19/14 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Walt Frazier


	The only reason this game is not getting absolutely destroyed on here is that there's barely anyone playing it and those who are all 'want' to see the good bits rather than reality. Late game AI-------------Late game AI is atrociously bad. If you play man to man D, the cpu doesn't take a shot if they have called an isolation play. They just bounce the ball and stand there and lose. If they have called another play they sometimes shoot, but 90% of the time they call an isolation at the end of the game and just bounce the ball and get a shot clock violation. Time outs -------------The CPU never calls time outs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! How can the people here posting 100s of videos and impressions not notice this???????? The cpu never calls time outs!!!!!!!!! Dynasty mode-------------I play Dynasty and I like to make my own subs. GUESS WHAT? If you use manual subs THE CPU DOESEN'T MAKE ANY SUBS ALL GAME. They play their starters 48 mins even when they are fatigues. This is appalling, yet none of the guys posting videos and propaganda seem to notice it!!! Online ------------- Online is TERRIBLE. Laggy and constant drops mid game. If there was a million people playing this game, it would be getting absolutely hammered for these flaws. Instead, no one is playing it and no one cares. But these are MAJOR flaws in the game. People NOT pointing this stuff out can only be not doing so as they are so obsessed with it they don't want to admit it's terrible. For anyone even considering buying it, note these flaws first.

these issues have been pointed out plenty of times. im guessing you havent read through any of the threads like bugs and glitches or even this one.

# 1446 The 24th Letter @ 01/19/14 10:25 AM

The fact that guys are having "so much fun" , "played the best game I've played in video game history" have been WELL documented as well....I don't see anything wrong with continuing to point out issues that we see....

The disconnects in UT, late game A.I have major impacts on user experience...not to mention many of the gameplay mechanics that need work....I think Wiz has a fair point...me personally, I don't care to change anyone's mind about anything...but I do feel like if it weren't for a few posters here being forthright, the devs wouldn't even think the game need a patch

# 1447 WTF @ 01/19/14 10:33 AM

And that's fine. It's perfectly fine to post your opinion and point out the issues. But when guys come in here saying that EVERYONE must see it, and those who aren't are propaganda posters has to stop. You've posted your late game AI issues, and proof of it. I know the Devs are aware of it. If it were affecting me, I wouldn't be playing. I just don't have the time to play a 48 minute game and have the game mess up at the end. Thankfully I'm not having that one.

The issue is guys are more or less attacking myself and others who are enjoying the game, telling us that we can't be seeing the things that we're seeing. That won't be tolerated.

The devs are more than aware of the issues that I'm seeing, and that you guys are seeing. I will 100% vouch for that. The reason that the list of patch wants was created and forwarded onto the dev teams was to have direct interaction with what is affecting OS users.

Point out issues, but don't attack guys that aren't having those issues. Not that you're doing it 24th, but a few posters are.

With that said, have you played anymore since the "patch"? Any additional thoughts/impressions on it?

It feels to me like the paint contact has been tweaked for the better, and the dunks have been toned down as well, causing more misses.

# 1448 NYJin2011tm @ 01/19/14 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by WTF


	The game takes 2 for 1 opportunities when I play, and luckily, I haven't had the late game AI issue yet. They look for what they need at the time, and I've posted MANY videos of my late game. They foul me if they need, the push the ball if they need, and THEY CALL TIME OUTS after I score if there is still a chance for them to come back. I've posted my endings with these videos. I do know that the late game AI bug exists, it's well documented. The Dev teams know it exists, it's well documented. Wrong on my end. I've posted several videos showing how my end of games go. I'm not sure why I'm not having an issue, but hopefully it continues and doesn't rear its ugly head during my play time. I've had 2-3 shot clock violations in my time with the game, and those were actual shot clock violations that I had to work for. I've had the 3 second in the lane glitch several times. Like above, they call it in crunch time, and that's good enough for me until the patch. It's well documented, and they are aware of it as well. I've given several lists, each after my extensive play time with the game, to the team showing my individual wants/needs. Do I need to come on here and post my list every time? You have plenty of people tearing the game down, you have plenty of people expressing their dismay. Believe it or not, I'm having an absolute blast with the game BECAUSE I'm not seeing the same things alot of guys are seeing. If I was seeing the end of game glitch, I wouldn't be playing the game until it was fixed. Just use auto subs, and make your own manual subs anyway. It's not that difficult. That's what I do. And YES, I have put this on my list of needed fixes as well. But it's not a game killing bug by any means. Posting propaganda? I'm a grown man, I have limited time to play a game period. When I do get the opportunity to play, I play Live. If it was a terrible game IN MY EYES, I wouldn't waste what little time I get to play, playing the game. You have your opinion, others have theirs. If you want to be at Operationsports then you need to learn how to respect others' opinions. I've posted my games, videos, screenshots, stats, etc. If you don't like it, wait for the patch. No need to subject yourself to torture if you feel the game is terrible.

That's what I do too. If you make your own subs it overrides the auto subs. If I see someone at the scorer's table who I don't want in I just go to subs like I am going to change but just keep it the same and it will ignore the auto subs.

# 1449 The 24th Letter @ 01/19/14 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by WTF


	. With that said, have you played anymore since the "patch"? Any additional thoughts/impressions on it? It feels to me like the paint contact has been tweaked for the better, and the dunks have been toned down as well, causing more misses.

Definitely! Posted about it in the patch thread...have to say I am pleased with the tweaks I saw immediately...I will have to get a few more games in, but I could see a difference in the 1 game I played...

# 1450 Walt Frazier @ 01/19/14 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by The 24th Letter


	The fact that guys are having "so much fun" , "played the best game I've played in video game history" have been WELL documented as well....I don't see anything wrong with continuing to point out issues that we see.... The disconnects in UT, late game A.I have major impacts on user experience...not to mention many of the gameplay mechanics that need work....I think Wiz has a fair point...me personally, I don't care to change anyone's mind about anything...but I do feel like if it weren't for a few posters here being forthright, the devs wouldn't even think the game need a patch

HALLELUJAH!!!!!!!!

I have only had four or five games go down to the wire where the cpu has been behind and all of them were completely ruined by the cpu dribbling the clock out. Videos are all over youtube, yet one user here apparently has never seen it so it is somehow alright.

This thread is littered with "I just downloaded the latest title update, I only played three minutes but I am sure I saw new animations and the cpu act more aggressively" or "I only played a quarter, but the cpu took 4 three pointers, so the update has increased their ball movement for sure" type preaching. Absolutely ridiculous stuff. I played Miami a few weeks ago and LeBron scored 47 yet now, after a title update a poster here played Miami and said LeBron is more aggressive. That stuff is just normal game to game stuff. It was there already. PLACEBO here is out of control.

Nothing to do with title updates. If the developers do read these things, I hope they see the late game AI and all the bugs and fix those. There's only four cameras and two don't work. Start there. Blocks need massive toning down also. So far there's been about ten updates yet two of my four camera options still don't work and the cpu still doesn't call time outs. Fix those things EA!!!

# 1451 Walt Frazier @ 01/19/14 11:08 AM

Oh,and now someone says rosters are fine. Yet three season ending injured players still start in the game.

# 1452 WTF @ 01/19/14 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Walt Frazier


	HALLELUJAH!!!!!!!! I have only had four or five games go down to the wire where the cpu has been behind and all of them were completely ruined by the cpu dribbling the clock out. Videos are all over youtube, yet one user here apparently has never seen it so it is somehow alright. This thread is littered with "I just downloaded the latest title update, I only played three minutes but I am sure I saw new animations and the cpu act more aggressively" or "I only played a quarter, but the cpu took 4 three pointers, so the update has increased their ball movement for sure" type preaching. Absolutely ridiculous stuff. I played Miami a few weeks ago and LeBron scored 47 yet now, after a title update a poster here played Miami and said LeBron is more aggressive. That stuff is just normal game to game stuff. It was there already. PLACEBO here is out of control. Nothing to do with title updates. If the developers do read these things, I hope they see the late game AI and all the bugs and fix those. There's only four cameras and two don't work. Start there. Blocks need massive toning down also. So far there's been about ten updates yet two of my four camera options still don't work and the cpu still doesn't call time outs. Fix those things EA!!!

You can mention me, this will be the last time I address you. If you aren't sitting in my man cave with me when I play this game, you have no clue what I'm seeing and what I'm not seeing. I have posted a LOT of videos showing the ends of my games. Like I said, if I saw the late game AI mess, then I'd stop playing, it's as simple as that. I don't have time to play a full game, only to have it ruined at the end.

The dev team is more than aware of the issues that you guys are having. I personally compiled a list of items that OS is having with the game and forwarded it onward.

# 1453 WTF @ 01/19/14 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Walt Frazier


	Oh,and now someone says rosters are fine. Yet three season ending injured players still start in the game.

Yes, Deron is day to day, but still in the lineup. Lopez is not. Deron supposedly back on MLK day:
http://www.netsdaily.com/2014/1/16/5...s-2014-mlk-day

CP3 not in lineup, lineup seems accurate.

Rose is out, lineup seems accurate otherwise.

Bledsoe is out, seems accurate.

Last I checked, this is the right LAL lineup.

All taken just a few seconds ago.

# 1454 The 24th Letter @ 01/19/14 12:46 PM

Just FYI: as far as the Nuggets go, Gallo hasn't played a minute this season with a torn ACL

Granger still in the Pacers starting line up, Holiday starting for the Pelicans....I am not sure how they are doing on missing players etc.

Accessories are still off for most teams...

Not a huge deal (to me)....but I have to hold them to their daily/hour after the game promises...

# 1455 WTF @ 01/19/14 12:52 PM

Yeah, I don't pay much attention to the Nuggets. Hadn't heard anyone bring him up. Normally it's Kobe and Rose. I'll pass along as well.

# 1456 El_Poopador @ 01/19/14 12:58 PM

a few rosters at least are still out of date. the cavs have waiters starting at the 2 instead of miles. and dellavadova isnt even on the roster.

# 1457 nick_sr @ 01/19/14 01:36 PM

salmons still starting for my raptors over ross smh

# 1458 SageInfinite @ 01/19/14 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Pared


	I read it as it does the basics of basketball well and is lacking in the more advanced areas of the sport. Aside from the bugs and other documented things it is lacking in like graphics, animations, personality, authenticity, etc., I would say the game is fundamentally sound. The basics of NBA basketball are there.

Appreciate your answer Pared. I mean by these standards hasn't almost every NBA game that has come out been "fundamentally sound"? lol. My man said it's more fundamentally sound than the competition. I'm just trying to figure out what this game does that is more fundamental than the past and the competition. I don't want to start a comparison thread, but what does the competition do that is less fundamental? What does that mean for me as a gamer?

Honestly besides the team shot percentages(which I do appreciate in Live) the differences in these 2 games are the things you mentioned, lol. Why would I want to play a game that has less personality, worse animations, less authenticity, & worse graphics? Seems like alot of people are flocking to this game simply because it's not the competition. Which is totally fine, but the broad statements I've seen try to make it seem like it's more to this game than it being simply a change of pace and a different game.

# 1459 drew_3 @ 01/19/14 03:42 PM

Spacing for me is the big fundamental that this game does better, the other thing would be the pace of the game.....It's why I can't go back to the "competition" anymore

# 1460 El_Poopador @ 01/19/14 03:43 PM

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	Appreciate your answer Pared. I mean by these standards hasn't almost every NBA game that has come out been "fundamentally sound"? lol. My man said it's more fundamentally sound than the competition. I'm just trying to figure out what this game does that is more fundamental than the past and the competition. I don't want to start a comparison thread, but what does the competition do that is less fundamental? What does that mean for me as a gamer? Honestly besides the team shot percentages(which I do appreciate in Live) the differences in these 2 games are the things you mentioned, lol. Why would I want to play a game that has less personality, worse animations, less authenticity, & worse graphics? Seems like alot of people are flocking to this game simply because it's not the competition. Which is totally fine, but the broad statements I've seen try to make it seem like it's more to this game than it being simply a change of pace and a different game.

tbh i would say the authenticity is very much in this game. as far as the fundamentals go: spacing is great in this game and it does it much better than any other bball game i have played. for the most part the cpu plays very smart when it comes to rotations as well. yes there are definitely areas where it needs work (like the double team logic jyoung posted in another thread) but the players move intelligently for the most part. while there arent a lot of fast breaks when you do get one you can run it well because the cpu teammates fill the lanes correctly and the defenders dont have the ability to cover three players at once.

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