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EA Sports has shipped NBA Live 14 today. Please play a few games and post your impressions here. As always, we'd like to see how the community feels about the game.

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# 381 The 24th Letter @ 12/13/13 04:24 PM
Speed is actually a big gripe for me me...it's the same complaint I had in Live 10...seems like athleticism didn't really shine through in these games...that's probably just the engine itself...hopefully it's something that can be implemented as they build...

To answer your question WTF, I would definitely love to see some signature elements to differentiate players...also the addition of animations (not just from a visual standpoint) to really separate skill sets..
 
# 382 Fiddy @ 12/13/13 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by gmac0322
I guess most people aren't playing live season mode?

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i was, but the games are set to 6 min (with accelerated clock on). i hate seeing low scores etc. bah!
 
# 383 ProfessaPackMan @ 12/13/13 04:55 PM
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Seems like some Synergy has kicked in...teams are definitely being a little more assertive (in the half court at least, still not seeing a lot of high tempo offense)...there are definitely still times when the CPU becomes brain dead though....especially if you decide to play off ball...it's like they completely shut down..doubt that's something Synergy can really fix, so hopefully it can be addressed in a patch or put in next year...

I do think everyone should take the time to actually learn the ins and outs of the game before judging it, because it will definitely make more sense as you go a long.....for me personally... It's been pretty hard to get immersed in this game, even looking past the graphics..just not finding it to be a fun experience...the lack of paint defense and the inability to counter that with sliders is a consistent annoyance..

Glad you guys are having fun though!! That's all that matters at the end of the day..
Share the same thoughts as you, which is why I didn't and still don't get caught up in the hyperbole of this game or engage in the constant bashing of each game by the same people who complain about others bringing up the other game. Leave that **** alone and move on from it, man. If "the other game" disappointed you, OK cool beans but we don't need to hear it from you every single time you post here.

THAT BEING SAID...

I've noticed over the last few days that Synergy DNA has improved for me, which was my biggest issue with the game along with no sliders. Played a few games this week(Nets/Clippers, Celtics/Knicks, Pacers/Heat)and like I said before, when Synergy is ON, the game starts to shine, especially in regards to player movement. The Heat's In/Out Offense in a thing of beauty in this game, as is the Pacers. Can't say the same for the Nets and Knicks but then again that's how it is in real life anyway.

Said this before and I'll say it again, the game has potential to be a good game(LOWERED EXPECTATIONS)over the next few years and you can definitely see it.

I can live with average graphics(I'm assuming they'll get better over the next year or so)as long as the gameplay and the customization options are there for us. If they can give us Sliders, tweak the graphics(both of which I expect for them to do next year)have the CPU not run Averah's ISOBall 60% of the time like they do now(I'll settle for dropping it down to 50% next year)then they'll be on the right track.
 
# 384 gmac0322 @ 12/13/13 05:05 PM
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i was, but the games are set to 6 min (with accelerated clock on). i hate seeing low scores etc. bah!
Lol damn that does suck. I usually play 12 min qtrs. Hopefully they change that for the future games. I liked the feature a lot in live 10. Thanks for the quick response.

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# 385 DIRK41NOWITZKI @ 12/13/13 05:44 PM
Just had a really fun time playing an ultimate team fantasy showdown. I was down 8 with a minute to go and I was ready to give up. Come down hit a quick layup with russel Westbrook and with 40 seconds left down 6 I still don't think I have a chance. Next possession, steal the ball throw it to harden and hit the three. Do the same thing next time down the floor. Goes to overtime and I end up winning. I really liked this outcome because it diddnt seem scripted like 2k. It would have ended different if I just gave up and chucked up some bad shots.
 
# 386 loadleft @ 12/13/13 07:41 PM
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Very good suggestion. I was going to play around some more with this over the weekend, to see if I could combat it moreso. Glad to see that you've already done some of this stuff.

Good to see you around. It's been a LONG time.

And the debate, well, it is what it is. This game isn't for everybody at first glance. But those who are willing to overlook some of the glitz and glamour, and spend some time with it, I'd say 3 out of 5 would probably really enjoy the game at a minimum.
LOL, yeah it's been a minute. I've still been reading the site just don't post since most of the old'heads don't post like they used to and I usually don't have the same concerns as the new guys so I just keep quiet.

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quick question on this. are you noticing this in normal play where you *should* have control or more in instances where you are trying to do something that someone wouldnt be able to do irl? for example trying to slide defensively to the left then moving immediately back to the right while your momentum is taking you to the left?
Yes exactly what WTF said. I see it occasionally on steal attempts and on rare occasions on rebounds, even saw it once on a shot attempt but out of all my games I'd imagine it would average out to around once every 2-3 games.
 
# 387 Boilerbuzz @ 12/14/13 10:54 AM
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Game is just flat out fun. I am losing a game to the Clippers as the Kings, 12 minute quarters, 93-63 at the end of 3 Chris Paul had 27 pts, 8 assists at the half. Insane. I can't get anything going. They're pushing the ball and getting good looks because I'm having to double down on Griffin, Jordan, leaving the perimeter wide open.
??? Why are you doubling down on Jordan?
 
# 388 Boilerbuzz @ 12/14/13 11:01 AM
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Share the same thoughts as you, which is why I didn't and still don't get caught up in the hyperbole of this game or engage in the constant bashing of each game by the same people who complain about others bringing up the other game. Leave that **** alone and move on from it, man. If "the other game" disappointed you, OK cool beans but we don't need to hear it from you every single time you post here.
This x1000! These are, really, the only posts I that I take issue with. It seems that every other posts by some of the Jedi, are a platform to complain about 2K.
 
# 389 Boilerbuzz @ 12/14/13 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by DIRK41NOWITZKI
Just had a really fun time playing an ultimate team fantasy showdown. I was down 8 with a minute to go and I was ready to give up. Come down hit a quick layup with russel Westbrook and with 40 seconds left down 6 I still don't think I have a chance. Next possession, steal the ball throw it to harden and hit the three. Do the same thing next time down the floor. Goes to overtime and I end up winning. I really liked this outcome because it diddnt seem scripted like 2k. It would have ended different if I just gave up and chucked up some bad shots.
Exhibit A. And the funny part is that this statement added NOTHING to his overall point about LIVE!

So, you really don't feel it's scripted huh? Not even when dudes like Deandre Jordan require the need for WTF to actually double him in the post? Not even considering the foundation for this game is a SCRIPTING type system driven by Synergy stats and data? "Thou shalt take 20 shots this game because you did it last night even though you have 2 defenders on you all game!" Yes folks, once you see Synergy kick in the tendency data, you know who to stop and where. That alone has made the game too predictable. Doesn't matter because dudes start hitting impossible shots with 2 or 3 defenders in their grill. A player shoots 100% from the within 5 feet. All dunks in real life. But reverse lay ups in the game. Dudes like Deandre Jordan mind you.

Maybe it doesn't "seem" scripted to you. It'd just more examples how people read into things. It's not the reality, it's you. You see what you want to see and don't see what you don't want to see.
 
# 390 gmac0322 @ 12/14/13 11:44 AM
The game is very solid. Rewards running the right plays. Also rewards boxing out for the most part. Only problems I have are fouls and pts in the paint. Points in the paint might be high because of defense though. Blocks definitely have to be tuned down too. Spacing is amazing.

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# 391 Boilerbuzz @ 12/14/13 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by gmac0322
The game is very solid. Rewards running the right plays. Also rewards boxing out for the most part. Only problems I have are fouls and pts in the paint. Points in the paint might be high because of defense though. Blocks definitely have to be tuned down too. Spacing is amazing.

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Agree about the rewarding boxing out. Almost to a fault. If you're boxed out, forget about a rebound unless they bug out and just miss the ball. Which they do a lot. Again, almost to a fault. There is no way to defeat the box out and it eats your rebound command. I'm ok with that kinda. But some control freaks that love the game conveniently are ok with it as well. I find that funny. Totally flies in the face of those that cry about not wanting to be "locked into animations" now doesn't it?

Totally disagree on spacing in that it is artificial (players sizes are not accurate relative to the court, bad offball defensive positioning, and help defense is overly simplistic). Just because you see wide open lanes, doesn't mean it good if they're wide open for the wrong reasons.
 
# 392 gmac0322 @ 12/14/13 12:37 PM
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Agree about the rewarding boxing out. Almost to a fault. If you're boxed out, forget about a rebound unless they bug out and just miss the ball. Which they do a lot. Again, almost to a fault. There is no way to defeat the box out and it eats your rebound command. I'm ok with that kinda. But some control freaks that love the game conveniently are ok with it as well. I find that funny. Totally flies in the face of those that cry about not wanting to be "locked into animations" now doesn't it?

Totally disagree on spacing in that it is artificial (players sizes are not accurate relative to the court, bad offball defensive positioning, and help defense is overly simplistic). Just because you see wide open lanes, doesn't mean it good if they're wide open for the wrong reasons.
I can agree with you on the defensive positioning. Not trying to bring the other game in this but their players are inaccurate too. They seem too big. I feel a center can take two steps and cover all of the space on the floor. Always feels clogged even if you get by a defender. Both games defentely have their pluses and minuses. They both have a lot of work to do.

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# 393 loadleft @ 12/14/13 01:00 PM
Hey Boiler,

May I respectfully ask you a question? If so, what is your deal, mission, cause, or reason? If you don't like the game, I fully understand but why have you taken it upon yourself to dispute and/or correct anyone that praises Live in a way you disagree with? Likewise why do you do look to correct and/or disprove anyone that disparages 2K while praising Live for something that you apparently feel is as bad or worst in Live? Finally why do you choose to call others "Jedi" who tend to harp on their positive experiences in Live? Isn't this what the Live forum for? In the past we used to beat people up about coming into the forums to complain about a particular game, we'd call them trolls, correct? So if WTF and others aren't coming in the Live forum to complain and you're saying there wrong when they point out positives, what exactly are they supposed to do here?

Again, I am trying to be respectful, not try to start a fight or anything else. I told WTF I don't post here anymore because of such things and so definitely I definitely am not looking to get into any of that now? My only motivation is curiosity as to what YOU would have those of us that like Live to do.

As to your point of doubling down on Jordan, is it not possible that WTF or whoever else just isn't proficient at post defense enough to guard him and like the Clippers would in real life, if the found DJ's man unable to guard him and he got easy bucket after easy bucket, they'd feed him to death? I ask because I don't have that experience as a matter I haven't found the need to double anyone in the post at this point. That is only because I took the time and played it over and over until I realized what I was doing wrong defensively in the post. Honestly I think it's a flaw brought on by the crap cameras they've put in the game. I say this because it appears (at least for me) that where I thought I was defensively on the floor isn't exactly where I was on the floor, the camera angles and zoom levels were throwing me off. I stopped and went into replay and was able to move the camera around to see that the position I was attempting to be in wasn't actually where I was.

Let me know your thoughts if we can discuss this respectfully and thanks in advance. (sorry for the typos, no time to proofread)
 
# 394 loadleft @ 12/14/13 01:48 PM
Forgot to mention a MAJOR fail in this game for me, and I need to add it to my wish list post NO CPU TIMEOUTS!!! For now I can look past it but that needs to be patched immediately! Now if there is some setting I've accidentally missed please someone chime in!
 
# 395 DirtyJerz32 @ 12/14/13 04:03 PM
Really liking the activity of the CPU now. Not sure if it's synergy or whatever, but the CPU is moving around so much better. The amount of pick n rolls the CPU Clips were doing was crazy. CP3 used Jordan and Blake on a lot of them. When I would try and beat Paul to the spot or go underneath, he'd pull up and knock down a shot. Great work there.
 
# 396 Flightwhite24 @ 12/14/13 05:05 PM
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Hey Boiler,



May I respectfully ask you a question? If so, what is your deal, mission, cause, or reason? If you don't like the game, I fully understand but why have you taken it upon yourself to dispute and/or correct anyone that praises Live in a way you disagree with? Likewise why do you do look to correct and/or disprove anyone that disparages 2K while praising Live for something that you apparently feel is as bad or worst in Live? Finally why do you choose to call others "Jedi" who tend to harp on their positive experiences in Live? Isn't this what the Live forum for? In the past we used to beat people up about coming into the forums to complain about a particular game, we'd call them trolls, correct? So if WTF and others aren't coming in the Live forum to complain and you're saying there wrong when they point out positives, what exactly are they supposed to do here?



Again, I am trying to be respectful, not try to start a fight or anything else. I told WTF I don't post here anymore because of such things and so definitely I definitely am not looking to get into any of that now? My only motivation is curiosity as to what YOU would have those of us that like Live to do.



As to your point of doubling down on Jordan, is it not possible that WTF or whoever else just isn't proficient at post defense enough to guard him and like the Clippers would in real life, if the found DJ's man unable to guard him and he got easy bucket after easy bucket, they'd feed him to death? I ask because I don't have that experience as a matter I haven't found the need to double anyone in the post at this point. That is only because I took the time and played it over and over until I realized what I was doing wrong defensively in the post. Honestly I think it's a flaw brought on by the crap cameras they've put in the game. I say this because it appears (at least for me) that where I thought I was defensively on the floor isn't exactly where I was on the floor, the camera angles and zoom levels were throwing me off. I stopped and went into replay and was able to move the camera around to see that the position I was attempting to be in wasn't actually where I was.



Let me know your thoughts if we can discuss this respectfully and thanks in advance. (sorry for the typos, no time to proofread)

Thank you for this post. Thank you again


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# 397 Boilerbuzz @ 12/14/13 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by gmac0322
I can agree with you on the defensive positioning. Not trying to bring the other game in this but their players are inaccurate too. They seem too big. I feel a center can take two steps and cover all of the space on the floor. Always feels clogged even if you get by a defender. Both games defentely have their pluses and minuses. They both have a lot of work to do.

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Emotionally, I agree that they seem too big. But only in girth. Many NBA players can get to the basket in less than three steps on a layup. They do cover a lot of ground. But that's a discussion for another day and forum...
 
# 398 babythug23 @ 12/14/13 07:48 PM
Had the game 2 days from gamefly. I can't stop the cpu from getting baskets in the paint. Feels like I have no D. Plus how I call plays for a certain player?
 
# 399 Boilerbuzz @ 12/14/13 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by loadleft
Hey Boiler,

May I respectfully ask you a question? If so, what is your deal, mission, cause, or reason? If you don't like the game, I fully understand but why have you taken it upon yourself to dispute and/or correct anyone that praises Live in a way you disagree with?
I take issue with people painting false virtue at the expense of unfairly comparing them to other games. Especially games that they clearly don't match in quality. But really, I just really HATE when folks excuse bad games just because that game is not some other game. I don't love Backbreaker because it's not Madden. I hate that game because it sucks. I don't love PES because it's not FIFA. But I do like PES. And I like FIFA. I don't use the fallacies of one game to justify virtues of another. That is the kind of mentality that I feel has Madden suck on slow boil and it pisses me off. But, to me, when NFL 2K pushed EA to come strong with Madden 2001, I was hoping for the same out of Live and the competition it was getting. No dice. So, now, it's at a stage where the fans have to demand perfection for them to move an inch. Excusing lackluster facets of the game because another game in any way gets me going.

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Likewise why do you do look to correct and/or disprove anyone that disparages 2K while praising Live for something that you apparently feel is as bad or worst in Live?
If my goal was to defend 2K, I'd be on that forum. There are enough issues in that game to warrant enough discussion on that forum. So why does it come here? It's one thing to say Live does something well and that you like it. But it doesn't stop there. Then you compare it to the game that does it as well, if not better, then that smacks of the EA double standard. If EA Sports is the gold standard sports label, I expect much more.

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Finally why do you choose to call others "Jedi" who tend to harp on their positive experiences in Live?
Because they repeat it so much, it feels like brainwashing attempts. I mean, it's REALLY repetitive. It's like someone struggled to find the right positive phrase, came up with, "it's a solid foundation", and just can't get past it.


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Isn't this what the Live forum for? In the past we used to beat people up about coming into the forums to complain about a particular game, we'd call them trolls, correct? So if WTF and others aren't coming in the Live forum to complain and you're saying there wrong when they point out positives, what exactly are they supposed to do here?
If we call folks trolls for complaining, then half of the posters that are in the Madden and NBA forums are trolls. Trolls are the ones that are downright hateful, disrespectful, repetitive, and irrational. And if you've noticed, even if my opinion of the game is not favorable, I've never launched some hate campaign of the game. When someone points out a positive, I've have not said they were wrong. The worst I've done was ask why they felt one way or another in the face of a point that would contradict their point. I've been over this already. I've also said, I don't agree with some things like the point of spacing.

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Again, I am trying to be respectful, not try to start a fight or anything else. I told WTF I don't post here anymore because of such things and so definitely I definitely am not looking to get into any of that now? My only motivation is curiosity as to what YOU would have those of us that like Live to do.
Compliment them for what they do right. Don't gloss over what is done wrong. Of you are going to give lip service to the good, don't talk about the bad in passing. It devalues quite a bit of the game that needs to be addressed. On post of gripes, versus ten posts of "it's a solid foundation" gets lost in a hurry. When someone else steps up and calls out the bad, don't come at them like they don't want to see the game do well. Or that they don't play the game. Or that they don't know basketball.

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As to your point of doubling down on Jordan, is it not possible that WTF or whoever else just isn't proficient at post defense enough to guard him and like the Clippers would in real life, if the found DJ's man unable to guard him and he got easy bucket after easy bucket, they'd feed him to death?
I'm sorry, but WTF should be able to just hold his position against Jordan, and not have to worry about doubling. He's not that good even with his unworldly physical gifts.

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I ask because I don't have that experience as a matter I haven't found the need to double anyone in the post at this point. That is only because I took the time and played it over and over until I realized what I was doing wrong defensively in the post.
I hear you. It is just unsettling to continue to hear how you can't rely on even basic basketball knowledge to succeed in the game. We've heard it time and time again how you have to "learn how to play Live" to get the most out of the game. Whatever happened to just knowing how to play basketball? The sad thing is that I agree with them. And that's not a good thing.

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Honestly I think it's a flaw brought on by the crap cameras they've put in the game. I say this because it appears (at least for me) that where I thought I was defensively on the floor isn't exactly where I was on the floor, the camera angles and zoom levels were throwing me off.
Broadcast camera is broadcast camera. It works for some and not for others.


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I stopped and went into replay and was able to move the camera around to see that the position I was attempting to be in wasn't actually where I was.

Let me know your thoughts if we can discuss this respectfully and thanks in advance. (sorry for the typos, no time to proofread)
I feel that your post was 100% respectful and I hope this reply was as well. If not, let me know and I'll rephrase and try to correct it.
 
# 400 WTF @ 12/14/13 09:30 PM
Anyway, this game is getting better by the day. A few of you I've spoken with about the commentary, its actually pretty darn good in dynasty mode.

They reference games that you just played, trades around the league, leaders, etc. It all flows really well.

I'm looking forward to each game, trying to strategize, and figure out how to stop a specific guy. Its a real good feeling when you execute your strategy and it works.
 


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