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# 381
The 24th Letter @ 12/13/13 05:24 PM
Speed is actually a big gripe for me me...it's the same complaint I had in Live 10...seems like athleticism didn't really shine through in these games...that's probably just the engine itself...hopefully it's something that can be implemented as they build...
To answer your question WTF, I would definitely love to see some signature elements to differentiate players...also the addition of animations (not just from a visual standpoint) to really separate skill sets..
To answer your question WTF, I would definitely love to see some signature elements to differentiate players...also the addition of animations (not just from a visual standpoint) to really separate skill sets..
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# 383
ProfessaPackMan @ 12/13/13 05:55 PM
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THAT BEING SAID...
I've noticed over the last few days that Synergy DNA has improved for me, which was my biggest issue with the game along with no sliders. Played a few games this week(Nets/Clippers, Celtics/Knicks, Pacers/Heat)and like I said before, when Synergy is ON, the game starts to shine, especially in regards to player movement. The Heat's In/Out Offense in a thing of beauty in this game, as is the Pacers. Can't say the same for the Nets and Knicks but then again that's how it is in real life anyway.
Said this before and I'll say it again, the game has potential to be a good game(LOWERED EXPECTATIONS)over the next few years and you can definitely see it.
I can live with average graphics(I'm assuming they'll get better over the next year or so)as long as the gameplay and the customization options are there for us. If they can give us Sliders, tweak the graphics(both of which I expect for them to do next year)have the CPU not run Averah's ISOBall 60% of the time like they do now(I'll settle for dropping it down to 50% next year)then they'll be on the right track.
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# 385
DIRK41NOWITZKI @ 12/13/13 06:44 PM
Just had a really fun time playing an ultimate team fantasy showdown. I was down 8 with a minute to go and I was ready to give up. Come down hit a quick layup with russel Westbrook and with 40 seconds left down 6 I still don't think I have a chance. Next possession, steal the ball throw it to harden and hit the three. Do the same thing next time down the floor. Goes to overtime and I end up winning. I really liked this outcome because it diddnt seem scripted like 2k. It would have ended different if I just gave up and chucked up some bad shots.
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# 387
Boilerbuzz @ 12/14/13 11:54 AM
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# 388
Boilerbuzz @ 12/14/13 12:01 PM
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# 389
Boilerbuzz @ 12/14/13 12:15 PM
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So, you really don't feel it's scripted huh? Not even when dudes like Deandre Jordan require the need for WTF to actually double him in the post? Not even considering the foundation for this game is a SCRIPTING type system driven by Synergy stats and data? "Thou shalt take 20 shots this game because you did it last night even though you have 2 defenders on you all game!" Yes folks, once you see Synergy kick in the tendency data, you know who to stop and where. That alone has made the game too predictable. Doesn't matter because dudes start hitting impossible shots with 2 or 3 defenders in their grill. A player shoots 100% from the within 5 feet. All dunks in real life. But reverse lay ups in the game. Dudes like Deandre Jordan mind you.
Maybe it doesn't "seem" scripted to you. It'd just more examples how people read into things. It's not the reality, it's you. You see what you want to see and don't see what you don't want to see.
The game is very solid. Rewards running the right plays. Also rewards boxing out for the most part. Only problems I have are fouls and pts in the paint. Points in the paint might be high because of defense though. Blocks definitely have to be tuned down too. Spacing is amazing.
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# 391
Boilerbuzz @ 12/14/13 12:51 PM
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Totally disagree on spacing in that it is artificial (players sizes are not accurate relative to the court, bad offball defensive positioning, and help defense is overly simplistic). Just because you see wide open lanes, doesn't mean it good if they're wide open for the wrong reasons.
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Hey Boiler,
May I respectfully ask you a question? If so, what is your deal, mission, cause, or reason? If you don't like the game, I fully understand but why have you taken it upon yourself to dispute and/or correct anyone that praises Live in a way you disagree with? Likewise why do you do look to correct and/or disprove anyone that disparages 2K while praising Live for something that you apparently feel is as bad or worst in Live? Finally why do you choose to call others "Jedi" who tend to harp on their positive experiences in Live? Isn't this what the Live forum for? In the past we used to beat people up about coming into the forums to complain about a particular game, we'd call them trolls, correct? So if WTF and others aren't coming in the Live forum to complain and you're saying there wrong when they point out positives, what exactly are they supposed to do here?
Again, I am trying to be respectful, not try to start a fight or anything else. I told WTF I don't post here anymore because of such things and so definitely I definitely am not looking to get into any of that now? My only motivation is curiosity as to what YOU would have those of us that like Live to do.
As to your point of doubling down on Jordan, is it not possible that WTF or whoever else just isn't proficient at post defense enough to guard him and like the Clippers would in real life, if the found DJ's man unable to guard him and he got easy bucket after easy bucket, they'd feed him to death? I ask because I don't have that experience as a matter I haven't found the need to double anyone in the post at this point. That is only because I took the time and played it over and over until I realized what I was doing wrong defensively in the post. Honestly I think it's a flaw brought on by the crap cameras they've put in the game. I say this because it appears (at least for me) that where I thought I was defensively on the floor isn't exactly where I was on the floor, the camera angles and zoom levels were throwing me off. I stopped and went into replay and was able to move the camera around to see that the position I was attempting to be in wasn't actually where I was.
Let me know your thoughts if we can discuss this respectfully and thanks in advance. (sorry for the typos, no time to proofread)
May I respectfully ask you a question? If so, what is your deal, mission, cause, or reason? If you don't like the game, I fully understand but why have you taken it upon yourself to dispute and/or correct anyone that praises Live in a way you disagree with? Likewise why do you do look to correct and/or disprove anyone that disparages 2K while praising Live for something that you apparently feel is as bad or worst in Live? Finally why do you choose to call others "Jedi" who tend to harp on their positive experiences in Live? Isn't this what the Live forum for? In the past we used to beat people up about coming into the forums to complain about a particular game, we'd call them trolls, correct? So if WTF and others aren't coming in the Live forum to complain and you're saying there wrong when they point out positives, what exactly are they supposed to do here?
Again, I am trying to be respectful, not try to start a fight or anything else. I told WTF I don't post here anymore because of such things and so definitely I definitely am not looking to get into any of that now? My only motivation is curiosity as to what YOU would have those of us that like Live to do.
As to your point of doubling down on Jordan, is it not possible that WTF or whoever else just isn't proficient at post defense enough to guard him and like the Clippers would in real life, if the found DJ's man unable to guard him and he got easy bucket after easy bucket, they'd feed him to death? I ask because I don't have that experience as a matter I haven't found the need to double anyone in the post at this point. That is only because I took the time and played it over and over until I realized what I was doing wrong defensively in the post. Honestly I think it's a flaw brought on by the crap cameras they've put in the game. I say this because it appears (at least for me) that where I thought I was defensively on the floor isn't exactly where I was on the floor, the camera angles and zoom levels were throwing me off. I stopped and went into replay and was able to move the camera around to see that the position I was attempting to be in wasn't actually where I was.
Let me know your thoughts if we can discuss this respectfully and thanks in advance. (sorry for the typos, no time to proofread)
Forgot to mention a MAJOR fail in this game for me, and I need to add it to my wish list post NO CPU TIMEOUTS!!! For now I can look past it but that needs to be patched immediately! Now if there is some setting I've accidentally missed please someone chime in!
# 395
DirtyJerz32 @ 12/14/13 05:03 PM
Really liking the activity of the CPU now. Not sure if it's synergy or whatever, but the CPU is moving around so much better. The amount of pick n rolls the CPU Clips were doing was crazy. CP3 used Jordan and Blake on a lot of them. When I would try and beat Paul to the spot or go underneath, he'd pull up and knock down a shot. Great work there.
# 396
Flightwhite24 @ 12/14/13 06:05 PM
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Thank you for this post. Thank you again
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# 397
Boilerbuzz @ 12/14/13 07:03 PM
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# 398
babythug23 @ 12/14/13 08:48 PM
Had the game 2 days from gamefly. I can't stop the cpu from getting baskets in the paint. Feels like I have no D. Plus how I call plays for a certain player?
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Boilerbuzz @ 12/14/13 09:24 PM
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Anyway, this game is getting better by the day. A few of you I've spoken with about the commentary, its actually pretty darn good in dynasty mode.
They reference games that you just played, trades around the league, leaders, etc. It all flows really well.
I'm looking forward to each game, trying to strategize, and figure out how to stop a specific guy. Its a real good feeling when you execute your strategy and it works.
They reference games that you just played, trades around the league, leaders, etc. It all flows really well.
I'm looking forward to each game, trying to strategize, and figure out how to stop a specific guy. Its a real good feeling when you execute your strategy and it works.
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