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Madden NFL 25 Video - MNF Simulation: Colts vs. Chargers (Xbox One)

11:41 AM - October 14, 2013 by TheBuddyHobbs

Another next-gen Madden NFL 25 video has arrived, showing nothing but zoomed in footage from a simulation of tonight's match-up between the Indianapolis Colts vs. San Diego Chargers.

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# 321 TeeDogg @ 10/14/13 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBuddyHobbs


	ESPN = Light editing. Which means it's not going to hide a lot of the ugly stuff EA = Heavy editing. Hiding as much ugly as they can.

Lol yeah I know ESPN wouldn't put together those perfect replays like EA would but the frame rate , stiff animations, etc are done better on current gen. Even that practice field video of the early build animated better than the ESPN vid. I'm just saying something is odd. Id like to see some official gameplay.

# 322 friscob @ 10/14/13 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by PVarck31


	Exactly. I was just making the point. I think Madden does need to completely rebuilt. But I think EA feels that's not practical. And they are probably right.

With the small changes that we saw from year to year on current consoles they have no excuses for not having the time to completely rebuild it.

# 323 Gosens6 @ 10/14/13 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBuddyHobbs


	They had 2 years to completely rebuild in time for the next gen systems. If they were going to do it then they would of done it. Instead, we are getting the same engine we have had for another 5 to 8 years. If they can't improve on this engine then it's another wasted console generation for EA. If they flop this gen like they did the last one I wouldn't be surprised if EA sports was no more by the time this next gen life cycle is over.

Come on man. Madden, FIFA, NHL alone will sell enough to keep them afloat, they're not going out of business. Add to all the die hard NBA Live fans that will buy that game every year this gen, they're not going anywhere. I agree with a lot of what you say, but this just won't happen.

# 324 adub88 @ 10/14/13 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by dat swag


	I know I'm not alone in wanting someone to get to Cam Weber and ask him the following questions: At E3 you showed demos of Next Gen Madden that was said to be in game running on Xbox One tech...Was that true and if so why does the game look nothing like that now? Also in the IGN interview you were showing what you claimed was actual Madden Gameplay with Adrian Peterson...Can you explain why the game now looks nothing like what you displayed in the IGN interview?

Right there with you. It's one thing to have a cg trailer but we saw actually gameplay with that Adrian Peterson running demo.

# 325 jmood88 @ 10/14/13 09:09 PM

I honestly cannot tell the difference between this and the ps3/360 version, other than the next-gen version being a little brighter.

# 326 PVarck31 @ 10/14/13 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by friscob


	With the small changes that we saw from year to year on current consoles they have no excuses for not having the time to completely rebuild it.

Its not about time, its about money. Calculated decisions that benefit them first and the consumer second.

# 327 Gosens6 @ 10/14/13 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by adub88


	Right there with you. It's one thing to have a cg trailer but we saw actually gameplay with that Adrian Peterson running demo.

We saw some runs on a practice field that looked eerily similar to current gen, even back then. I'm confused as to why people keep bringing that vid up? It showed nothing next gen to me. The graphics were better, and the running animations were a smidgen better. It's not like they showed something completely different from what we're seeing in these trailers.

# 328 Gosens6 @ 10/14/13 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBuddyHobbs


	Yeah the generalization was bad. What I meant was I wouldn't be surprised if Madden was gone by the end of the next gen cycle. That's if they do what they did this past gen. From the looks of it so far they haven't changed or learned much of anything.

Madden isn't going anywhere either, it's the sad truth. Like I said, these casual, tournament, online gamers will continue to buy this game in droves. Madden will be around for as long as the NFL and EA want it to be.

# 329 friscob @ 10/14/13 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by PVarck31


	Its not about time, its about money. Calculated decisions that benefit them first and the consumer second.

Oh I agree. Just don't like ppl creating excuses for EA

# 330 SageInfinite @ 10/14/13 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by dat swag


	let me be captain Obvious for a moment...If they zoomed out and let you see 11 on 11 play...then you might not buy it...Duh Its like a decent looking chick jumpin in the sack with you knowing she got some real messed up feet...She gonna hide them damn feet cause she knows they look like somebody dropped a sack of nickels on them...She don't want to kill your vibe with her Hammer Time Feet. #Chickswithbadfeetisadealbreaker

# 331 friscob @ 10/14/13 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBuddyHobbs


	All sports gaming companies do it. They implement 2 to 3 gameplay changes and add a new feature or two. Save other improvements and features for the next game. It's done so they can give you a reason to keep buying year after year. The problem is Madden has about 20 different issues that it needs fixing. So fixing 2 to 3 issues at a time is not acceptable. While other games it might be fine.

Lol except they don't even fix 2-3 issues each year. They just create 2-3 new features that nobody asked for which will be thrown out of the game a year or 2 later.

# 332 marshallfever @ 10/14/13 09:19 PM

Finally watched it on my Laptop and man, I must say, every time ESPN releases a video.....the game looks like a PS2 game.

Is this just their encoding or truly what the game looks like? I'm not expecting CG levels of visuals here, but the "in-game" trailer they released during E3 the game looked pretty good. Even the video of Adrian Peterson they had on IGN during E3 of AP running around looked 10xs better then this current video.

It's not even the visuals that baffle me, but it's the animations and the way the game looks to be moving. It's almost like it came out of the PS2 era.

EA needs to come out and tell us what's going on.

# 333 BrianFifaFan @ 10/14/13 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by dat swag


	let me be captain Obvious for a moment...If they zoomed out and let you see 11 on 11 play...then you might not buy it...Duh Its like a decent looking chick jumpin in the sack with you knowing she got some real messed up feet...She gonna hide them damn feet cause she knows they look like somebody dropped a sack of nickels on them...She don't want to kill your vibe with her Hammer Time Feet. #Chickswithbadfeetisadealbreaker

My wife is going to wake up and punch me, as I sit straight Rollin in the bed. Post of the day!

# 334 TeeDogg @ 10/14/13 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Gosens6


	We saw some runs on a practice field that looked eerily similar to current gen, even back then. I'm confused as to why people keep bringing that vid up? It showed nothing next gen to me. The graphics were better, and the running animations were a smidgen better. It's not like they showed something completely different from what we're seeing in these trailers.

Because imo it looked like it played smoother and better than what ESPN is showing now. No it didn't blow anyone away but as an early build I didn't expect it to regress. It just makes me suspect something isn't right

# 335 tnixen @ 10/14/13 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by marshallfever


	Finally watched it on my Laptop and man, I must say, every time ESPN releases a video.....the game looks like a PS2 game. Is this just their encoding or truly what the game looks like? I'm not expecting CG levels of visuals here, but the "in-game" trailer they released during E3 the game looked pretty good. Even the video of Adrian Peterson they had on IGN during E3 of AP running around looked 10xs better then this current video. It's not even the visuals that baffle me, but it's the animations and the way the game looks to be moving. It's almost like it came out of the PS2 era. EA needs to come out and tell us what's going on.

Actually Madden on PS2 was alot better then the garbage we have now.

# 336 Gosens6 @ 10/14/13 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by TeeDogg


	Because imo it looked like it played smoother and better than what ESPN is showing now. No it didn't blow anyone away but as an early build I didn't expect it to regress. It just makes me suspect something isn't right

What i'm saying is, if you zoomed in on that video, sped it up and added some lighting, it would look like these trailers we're getting.

I think people are just stuck on the fact that it was zoomed out, 11 v. 11 gameplay, albeit only running plays.

If you put some passing plays in that E3 vid and zoomed it in, guys would have had the same reactions they do now with these ESPN vids.

# 337 adub88 @ 10/14/13 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Gosens6


	We saw some runs on a practice field that looked eerily similar to current gen, even back then. I'm confused as to why people keep bringing that vid up? It showed nothing next gen to me. The graphics were better, and the running animations were a smidgen better. It's not like they showed something completely different from what we're seeing in these trailers.

yeah I hear what you're saying, but I never gave the impression that it looked good or bad. My point is very simply is that it looks different than what we're seeing now.

# 338 Mdnghtmgcn1 @ 10/14/13 09:32 PM

The quarterback pass releases seem way too fast, why would they speed them up any more than they already were on current gen? Also, like somebody else said Rivers has a unique throwing motion that obviously will not be included in this game, but somehow they include guys like Trent Edwards throwing motions.

# 339 djordan @ 10/14/13 09:43 PM

Check out this thread. They're going off as well...

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=697000

# 340 roadman @ 10/14/13 09:46 PM

Don't know if this has been posted, yet, but here is a remark from former Developer, Phil Fraizer, on Twitter, who doesn't have any ties to EA anymore.

For what it's worth, twittering with Owen Good, the writer of the Kotaku article earlier:

Owen Good ‏@owengood 3h
I honestly—hand to God—thought ESPN had screwed up this morning, and used Xbox 360 Madden footage, calling it Xbox One.

Phil Frazier ‏@Fillycheze 3h
@owengood This is not far from reality. EA probably marked it as X1 footage by mistake. Pulled it because it's not. That's 360 for sure.
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Phil Frazier ‏@Fillycheze 3h
@owengood That footage is clearly 360. My guess is the capture team didnt realize they had to use X1. It was probably pulled for that reason

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