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OS Roundtable: Does Live Stand a Chance?

04:51 PM - September 12, 2013 by RaychelSnr

Let's face it, NBA 2K is king currently.

There are no other game series which are awaited as anxiously by OS'ers than NBA 2K, and for the last couple of years the game has gone unchallenged on the marketplace.

Of course, changes this year as NBA Live 14 is entering stage right.

With such an ingrained dominance on the marketplace right now from NBA 2K, does NBA Live even stand a chance to make a mark on gamers this year and establish a foothold to work off of?

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# 1 quehouston @ 09/12/13 05:04 PM

I think so, I don't really care if it isn't better than 2k, as long as its solid and something DIFFERENT.

Sometimes I feel like im the only person getting bored of playing 2k every single year, especially when the glaring issues are still present year after year.

# 2 DatGD12guage @ 09/12/13 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by MMChrisS


	Let's face it, NBA 2K is king currently. There are no other game series which are awaited as anxiously by OS'ers than NBA 2K, and for the last couple of years the game has gone unchallenged on the marketplace. Of course, changes this year as NBA Live 14 is entering stage right. With such an ingrained dominance on the marketplace right now from NBA 2K, *does NBA Live* even stand a chance to make a mark on gamers this year and establish a foothold to work off of?** Read More - OS Roundtable: Does Live Stand a Chance?

The question should be who will come out on top b/c this is a new system and if im not mistaken live has had more time to prepare for nex gen so that kind of evens things out as far as next gen consoles. I say that only b/c 2k has a pretty decent record when it comes to delivering with the exception of nba 2k13.

Dont get it twisted 2k just has momentum b/c they have been releasing games so everybody assumes whats going to happen based off of past history. However this is NEW SYSTEMS so nobody knows whats going to happen for sure until we see gameplay.

So fanboys chill the xxxx out with the arguments until we see gameplay b/c somebody is bound to get their feelings hurt as serious and emotional as you mufs get.

# 3 tril @ 09/12/13 05:21 PM

I'm a 2k die hard fan, and Im in fear that LIve will have an immediate impact regarding sales.
EA's bread and butter ill be with the marketing and advertising dollars. Theyll spend a ton, partner up with a network during the release week, just like they did for Madden25.

The Name NBA resonates with alot of casual gamers also. 2k has always been viewed as the more complex game to play.. SO that is another area where LIve will have an advantage.

Theyll also make an impact with online, which has been stated in this article.

Finally, Ill always support 2k, Ill check out Live via rental or a relative. At this point in the game I think amongst the OS community the lines are clearly divided. Its either you love 2k or you love Live. I dont think theyll be any defectors from the 2k brand. The ones that do the switch are probably LIve supporters anyways.

# 4 EAGLESFAN10 @ 09/12/13 05:23 PM

Hell yeah Live stands a chance

the thing that make LMAO is how fans of 2K think that Next-Gen will automatically be better than Live based on past history

lets put it this way Madden and NCAA were good XBOX/PS2 days but when it came to Current-Gen they took steps back

Also 2K has been slacking with NO competition on Current-Gen these last few years but some people don't want to acknowledge it

I know I'm probably one of the few who want ALL of EA's games to be good Next-gen but that's just me

# 5 Rdub33 @ 09/12/13 05:25 PM

I am not a big soccer fan, but I play FIFA because the pro clubs and online seasons are just a ton of fun. NBA live can be the basketball equivalent for NON basketball fans just looking to have fun.

But as athe basketball purist that I am, there is no way I would play live over 2k. Because no matter what online options they have, if it doesn't produce a realistic basketball sim experience I will most likely throw up on my controller

# 6 Gramps91 @ 09/12/13 05:25 PM

I've been a huge 2k fan since 2k7. However, before that I was an EA guy. I loved Live 2004 and 2006 (Especially 2004, why they stopped the player models from that game and made the horrible player models beyond that is beyond me.) I plan on still being a 2k guy until Live can show me otherwise. I still may get Live games though even if 2k remains king. I know for a while 2007-2010 I got both at different times.

On a side note: 2k had great game prior to 2k7 I just didn't get to try most of them (except 2k2 and 2k3) because I only had a G-cube

# 7 Vni @ 09/12/13 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by tril


	I'm a 2k die hard fan, and Im in fear that LIve will have an immediate impact regarding sales. EA's bread and butter ill be with the marketing and advertising dollars. Theyll spend a ton, partner up with a network during the release week, just like they did for Madden25. The Name NBA resonates with alot of casual gamers also. 2k has always been viewed as the more complex game to play.. SO that is another area where LIve will have an advantage. Theyll also make an impact with online, which has been stated in this article. Finally, Ill always support 2k, Ill check out Live via rental or a relative. At this point in the game I think amongst the OS community the lines are clearly divided. Its either you love 2k or you love Live. I dont think theyll be any defectors from the 2k brand. The ones that do the switch are probably LIve supporters anyways.

What did I just read. Most people don't like live because they haven't released any game for 3 years. What is there to like? If they release a good game I'am sure most people will give it a chance as they should. Why not?

You sound like you're part of the NBA 2K gang or something.

# 8 TheXFactor12345 @ 09/12/13 06:01 PM

I truly feel that as long as they feature a EA Sports Basketball League mode with created Pro's they will blow 2k away

# 9 SageInfinite @ 09/12/13 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Vni


	What did I just read. Most people don't like live because they haven't released any game for 3 years. What is there to like? If they release a good game I'am sure most people will give it a chance as they should. Why not? You sound like you're part of the NBA 2K gang or something.

If they release a good game alot will be forgiven for the most part, but you can't blame people for being upset with the live series this current generation. The thing not to like is they left their fans out to dry. They could've even put together a game good enough to be released. For three years at that. When has that ever happened before with a major franchise that released yearly that was successful?

Not to mention they would've released a terrible game to the public and thought nothing of it if they weren't so embarrassed by a demo video that went viral.

# 10 poloelite @ 09/12/13 06:04 PM

Live stands a chance, but it will be hard. It's been a looooong time since EA nailed 5 on 5 basketball accurately and it didn't get any easier. The nuance and detail we demand now as gamers grows every year and you have to be active and working to keep up. 2k has been putting games out continuously and they're still issues they need to address. Look at Madden and how long that game has been around and the legacy issues we find there. EA hasn't had much time (they were working on Live 13 before cancellation) to work on this next gen game so it will be a work in progress in my mind. Even with that, I may still pick it up to see where they are in the process, but my expectations are very low.

# 11 Vni @ 09/12/13 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by SageInfinite


	If they release a good game alot will be forgiven for the most part, but you can't blame people for being upset with the live series this current generation. The thing not to like is they left their fans out to dry. They could've even put together a game good enough to be released. For three years at that. When has that ever happened before with a major franchise that released yearly that was successful? Not to mention they would've released a terrible game to the public and thought nothing of it if they weren't so embarrassed by a demo video that went viral.

That's fine but people shouldnt be worried that Live releases a good game. It would actually be great in many ways.

I'am still far from convinced that Live 14 will be good though.

# 12 mpenias @ 09/12/13 06:08 PM

Don't care about all star weekend things.
Don't care about street-balling.
Don't care how many sneakers I can buy my player.

JUST WORK AS WELL ONLINE THAN IT DOES OFF

# 13 tril @ 09/12/13 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Vni


	What did I just read. Most people don't like live because they haven't released any game for 3 years. What is there to like? If they release a good game I'am sure most people will give it a chance as they should. Why not? You sound like you're part of the NBA 2K gang or something.

when it comes to sports IM a 2k guy,
other than that I dont have any idea what you are commenting about. Explain yourself please.

# 14 CoRRuPTMiND93 @ 09/12/13 06:19 PM

Even though 2k has been running the show, people are always willing to try something new. The fact of the matter is that 2k basketball games still lack a lot of things that people want to see, the game still has legacy issues that irritate the hell out of people, so it's not like there isn't any room for NBA Live to come back and out shine 2k in certain areas. If NBA Live 14 is a solid basketball game, that has, let's say, a great online experience, that could be enough for some people to switch over. If this ignite engine proves to be legit, and bouce-tek is as smooth as they are saying it is, that's a huge plus for EA.

# 15 Vni @ 09/12/13 06:20 PM

You're just a 2K guy because it's the best game out there aren't you?

# 16 hallauer @ 09/12/13 06:22 PM

I'm trying to stay positive for Live, but it's hard with such limited info. IMO, the player models looks like plastic and everything I've seen/read so far hasn't been kind of "meh". If the online comes together, similar to EASHL, then like Jayson Young stated, they're going to pull in a LOT of people who want to play online. NBA2K's online has been a lagging joke for years now, so EA needs to come out swinging, emphasise online play, and capture that market.

# 17 juicey79 @ 09/12/13 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by DatGD12guage


	The question should be who will come out on top b/c this is a new system and if im not mistaken live has had more time to prepare for nex gen so that kind of evens things out as far as next gen consoles. I say that only b/c 2k has a pretty decent record when it comes to delivering with the exception of nba 2k13. Dont get it twisted 2k just has momentum b/c they have been releasing games so everybody assumes whats going to happen based off of past history. However this is NEW SYSTEMS so nobody knows whats going to happen for sure until we see gameplay. So fanboys chill the xxxx out with the arguments until we see gameplay b/c somebody is bound to get their feelings hurt as serious and emotional as you mufs get.

I agree, EA has had 3 years to start developing concepts, game modes, and idea for NBA LIVE. It's rare that a consumer will get an out of this world experience on a sports game but I have high expectations for NBA live given EA's massive resource and their new Ignite Engine...as for 2K I expect a great game as well and for them to not take a step backwards...if they refine the controls and make the presentation and visuals close to real life I will be happy.

# 18 DonWuan @ 09/12/13 06:41 PM

The other game has become stale to me. As far as I know 2k on next gen will be mostly graphical update(based off ps2-ps3) and at the end of the day its still 2k basketball. Not a bad thing but also not a good thing.

If Live is closer to live 10 vs elite it will be a day one purchase. Need something new and as im an association type player, Live will be bringing something fresh to the market. Im not expecting anything perfect.

Ive been playing the same game over and over for a few years with minor tweaks.

# 19 Sovartus @ 09/12/13 06:53 PM

It always seems to be a touchy subject when we start talking about NBA 2K and NBA Live on this forum. So many people are ready to defend the game they are more familiar with or simply have a loyalty to for whatever reason. I like to take the perspective of a basketball gamer. Right now, 2K has the only game and also has been the developer that has gotten closer to a basketball simulation in the last decade. EA hasn't really done much of anything except overpromise and underdeliver during the XBOX 360/Playstation 3 time frame with the exception of NBA Live 09 and 10.

Most gamers seem to miss the point of all of this because they appear to be a little blinded by personal choice rather than being a real consumer. I like the idea of NBA Live and NBA 2K launching into the new generation consoles head to head again. As many have said, it is only good for the consumer when there is more than one option and the market share is split. Obviously NBA Live will bring a few new things to the table and 2K will make the proper adjustments to counter them as they always do. Think about the fact that 2K is now with Stats Inc., and realize Synergy Sports in NBA Live had something to do with that. We now have more realistic gameplay as a result.

So, the overall answer to the OP's question is "yes", NBA Live has fantastic odds to get back into the game and steal back some of the market share in basketball video gaming. How much they will get back depends on the approach they take and if 2K is able to continue making the improvements that actually matter to it's fanbase. We all must admit, the gameplay devs at 2K have shown to have a pretty good grip on the reality of simulation based basketball gaming. They have made some tremendous strides to bring us a solid experience year after year even though it is the only product out there. The thing 2K does better than anyone to date is, they listen to the gamers. Maybe they listen too much sometimes but they make a valiant attempt to give us what we ask for which makes many happy and ticks others off in the process.

NBA Live Devs have the unique opportunity to deliver some things that 2K has dropped the ball on year after year but they must also provide something close to the high degree of realism 2K hangs its hat on as well. Live MUST offer the sim gamer something that makes them say, "ok, that is pretty nice! Maybe I'll check it out and see what it's talking about..." The main area NCAA Basketball 10 impressed me was in the defensive logic. Players reacted to the ball and positioned themselves better than 2K10. Little things about "basketball" make the difference for me.

Either way, the gamers will benefit from the newfound competition IF EA can (#1) release a game, and (#2) release one that provides simulation aspects that rival 2K's. It doesn't have to be better. I don't think ANYONE, not even EA, has the expectations for them to produce a better produce. I probably will be in "wait & see mode" and buy both titles on XBOX One. I plan to write my next installment of 2K vs. Live once I get my hands on them and pick them apart like I did for 2K10 vs Live 10.

Keep an open mind guys, this should be interesting.

# 20 champsbasketball @ 09/12/13 06:55 PM

I'm hoping that both basketball games are great so I can have 2 games to play all year. cuz when it's all said and done I'm a basketball player I love basketball

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