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OS Roundtable: Does Live Stand a Chance?

03:51 PM - September 12, 2013 by RaychelSnr

Let's face it, NBA 2K is king currently.

There are no other game series which are awaited as anxiously by OS'ers than NBA 2K, and for the last couple of years the game has gone unchallenged on the marketplace.

Of course, changes this year as NBA Live 14 is entering stage right.

With such an ingrained dominance on the marketplace right now from NBA 2K, does NBA Live even stand a chance to make a mark on gamers this year and establish a foothold to work off of?

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# 21 larry1523 @ 09/12/13 06:10 PM

These last couple 2k games have been really slacking really hard and since live stop coming out with games 2k hasn't put any effort into their games and I am a die hard 2k fan. It seriously seems like they take features out just to put them back in the following game and use them as a selling point to get you to buy it (ex blocking dunks). Live has the perfect opportunity to come back in a big way and get back there fan base and 2k won't have anyone to blame but themselves and I believe EA will outsell 2K in the next gen

# 22 TheBadazz @ 09/12/13 06:32 PM

I am a 2K guy, but I would give Live a shot. I like basketball.

# 23 Rockie_Fresh88 @ 09/12/13 06:34 PM

I grew up on live . So yeah I'm looking Foward to this reboot.

# 24 poloelite @ 09/12/13 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by larry1523


	These last couple 2k games have been really slacking really hard and since live stop coming out with games 2k hasn't put any effort into their games and I am a die hard 2k fan. It seriously seems like they take features out just to put them back in the following game and use them as a selling point to get you to buy it (ex blocking dunks). Live has the perfect opportunity to come back in a big way and get back there fan base and 2k won't have anyone to blame but themselves and I believe EA will outsell 2K in the next gen

Where's all this 2k hate coming from?? I hope Live can come back and at least be viable one day, but I'm reading people taking crazy shots at 2k for the last couple of games. 2k11, 12 and 13 are easily the best 3 basketball games I've ever played and I've played them all (Double Dribble, Arch Rivals, Jam, Showdown, Live etc). Each of the last 3 games made significant improvements in my mind and having played 2k14 (demo build), they've done it again. I'm all for honesty, but to bash something unfairly to prop up the one you love is ridiculous. Even EA tips it hat to 2k11, 12 and 13 when they cancelled their games and said they couldn't compete at this time.

# 25 larry1523 @ 09/12/13 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by poloelite


	Where's all this 2k hate coming from?? I hope Live can come back and at least be viable one day, but I'm reading people taking crazy shots at 2k for the last couple of games. 2k11, 12 and 13 are easily the best 3 basketball games I've ever played and I've played them all (Double Dribble, Arch Rivals, Jam, Showdown, Live etc). Each of the last 3 games made significant improvements in my mind and having played 2k14 (demo build), they've done it again. I'm all for honesty, but to bash something unfairly to prop up the one you love is ridiculous. Even EA tips it hat to 2k11, 12 and 13 when they cancelled their games and said they couldn't compete at this time.

That's your opinion but if you really look at it what's the biggest change from 2k12 to 2k14 maybe its the best game to go against the cpu but going online your telling me these are the best games??? the defense doesn't get back, the 1-3-1 zone is god like there is barely any defense played scrubs get away with more bs in these last 2 games than ever before and if you don't think so how many times have you lost to someone who had the heat and did a spin dunk with LeBron James all game long?? Or swivel with players like Carmelo at the 3pt line and hit 3s all game? To me the last decent 2k was 2k11 I'm not knocking 2k just saying they been taking it easy these last couple years because they had no comp and I believe that after its said and done Live will outsell 2K

# 26 vtcha @ 09/12/13 07:22 PM

Considering the fact that 2K hasn't done anything major to its Association mode in the past few years, I'm definitely looking to see what Live has to offer ...

# 27 TheHypeMachine6 @ 09/12/13 07:31 PM

Matthew Coe: The surprising answer is yes and I'll tell you why with two points. The first reason is because despite the incredibly consistent quality of NBA 2K, some gamers are tired of 2K's style of basketball and are looking to change it up. Even if it means buying an unproven, potentially inferior basketball title. The second reason has to do with NBA Live 14 releasing exclusively on next generation consoles. This was a smart move by EA no matter what your opinion of the game or the company is. It has the advantage of being on new hardware and having unknown potential. The excitement of the game's potential on next-gen hardware can only be a positive.

Having said all of that, EA has to show some 5-on-5 footage and they have to do it soon. Even the fans of the Liveseries are starting to get impatient and that doesn't bode well. I think everyone wants competition in every sports gaming category. If NBA Live 14 releases as a competent basketball title with some simulation elements, and a working franchise/dynasty mode then I think it does have a chance.

NBA Live 14 will not beat 2K14 in terms of sales or review scores, but the series will have a chance to come back and regain a small foothold in the NBA basketball gaming market. That's all that EA Sports could realistically hope for right now.

I completely agree with this view of the upcoming release of Live 14 & 2K14, and honestly believe that the time for change is at hand, and having the EA and 2K facing off on the hardwood is only going to benefit us the consumer. Over the past few years its been a let down with only 2K releasing a game, and they have been great games IMO but it's healthy for the genre to have a competitor vying for the No.1 spot and this year with NBA Live making it's comeback the rivalry is on. Personally I agree that NBA 2K has slowed up on innovation & features, but why wouldn't they, it's been just them for 3 years & surely they knew Live wouldn't be out forever need to keep something fresh for the LIve reboot. I understand that we haven't seen any next-gen gameplay from either title yet & I'm not bashing NBA 2K basketball, but if they produce the same game modes as 2K11-13 with the addition of updated rosters, player models, new animations but still quite a few of the old it may just have ****** gamers & sim nation looking at Live 14 as a serious alternative. I feel with more than a year to fix past mistakes EA Sports is ready to come out fired up, and this season I'm rooting for the underdog.

# 28 PepsiRacer4 @ 09/12/13 07:33 PM

EA will draw me in big time if they bring over their CFM/CCM from Madden. I love how they do it, and if they also get the interactive draft classes I'm sold. Association and the terrible default draft classes that 2K has can be annoying. If EA does that they got me.

# 29 TreyIM2 @ 09/12/13 07:50 PM

Of course Live has a chance...maybe. I was of the mind that with the new tech and all that is on the line for EA, it should be decent, if not surprise us all and be above our expectations, however, I had to think about how long it's been worked on because Live 13 never released and I would think they were at least trying to get that puppy up and running with almost an all hands on deck before eventually pulling the plug on it.

I would certainly believe they had some of their resources getting next gen prepped with PCs but there a bunch of questions about what's been going on behind the scenes and for how long with this version of Live 14.

Hope that/those 5 on 5 vid/vids is/are coming real soon...like manana....

# 30 poloelite @ 09/12/13 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by larry1523


	That's your opinion but if you really look at it what's the biggest change from 2k12 to 2k14 maybe its the best game to go against the cpu but going online your telling me these are the best games??? the defense doesn't get back, the 1-3-1 zone is god like there is barely any defense played scrubs get away with more bs in these last 2 games than ever before and if you don't think so how many times have you lost to someone who had the heat and did a spin dunk with LeBron James all game long?? Or swivel with players like Carmelo at the 3pt line and hit 3s all game? To me the last decent 2k was 2k11 I'm not knocking 2k just saying they been taking it easy these last couple years because they had no comp and I believe that after its said and done Live will outsell 2K

I hear your concerns, but I've played 2k14 and even on demo build the defense is vastly improved. I'm not much of an online gamer, because to be honest with you it will ALWAYS be cheese. No matter who makes the game, it will always just be a game and open to exploits. Unfortunately, defense and simulation have NEVER been NBA Live's strong suit, so I don't think your particular grievances will be addressed anytime soon. Personally, the jump to me with 2k12 over 11 was subtle, but the animations and control stick for 2k13 was a huge jump. This year it's defense. 2k isn't anywhere close to perfect, but perfection takes time. Here they are, around 14 years into tweaking the game and it still needs help. It's almost unbelievable to think Live can come out the gate and just get it right, when they haven't been able to do that in almost a decade. True the online may be more stable, but would you rather drive a bucket on a smooth street or a Bentley on a slightly bumpy one??

# 31 GOBLUE_08 @ 09/12/13 08:01 PM

Absolutely, It will definitely be nice to have another option out there. 2k has been pretty stale over the last few years imo, and hopefully live can breathe some new life into video game hoops. EA has had time now to sit back and watch, no its time to show and prove

# 32 TheLetterZ @ 09/12/13 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by poloelite


	Where's all this 2k hate coming from?? I hope Live can come back and at least be viable one day, but I'm reading people taking crazy shots at 2k for the last couple of games. 2k11, 12 and 13 are easily the best 3 basketball games I've ever played and I've played them all (Double Dribble, Arch Rivals, Jam, Showdown, Live etc). Each of the last 3 games made significant improvements in my mind and having played 2k14 (demo build), they've done it again. I'm all for honesty, but to bash something unfairly to prop up the one you love is ridiculous. Even EA tips it hat to 2k11, 12 and 13 when they cancelled their games and said they couldn't compete at this time.

I hear you. There's a type of hypocrisy with it. It frustrates me.

Often times, the people who bash a company for pushing "fluff back of the box features" are the same people who don't recognize when a game focuses on improving the under the hood elements that are essential to making the gameplay better.

For example, I keep seeing people rip 2K for adding blocked dunks, ignoring the fact that the blocked dunks are just one aspect of an entirely new shot-blocking system. Core gameplay!

Plus, 2K did a huge overhaul of defensive rotations this year, making them significantly more realistic. It's not a "marketing" feature, and people choose to ignore it. Core gameplay again!

# 33 arimamba @ 09/12/13 09:05 PM

tell me why does ricky rubio look like a chinese mario brother

# 34 juicey79 @ 09/12/13 09:07 PM

Nba live needs to show some gameplay vids...maybe do a live stream

# 35 coolcras7 @ 09/12/13 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by poloelite


	I hear your concerns, but I've played 2k14 and even on demo build the defense is vastly improved. I'm not much of an online gamer, because to be honest with you it will ALWAYS be cheese. No matter who makes the game, it will always just be a game and open to exploits. Unfortunately, defense and simulation have NEVER been NBA Live's strong suit, so I don't think your particular grievances will be addressed anytime soon. Personally, the jump to me with 2k12 over 11 was subtle, but the animations and control stick for 2k13 was a huge jump. This year it's defense. 2k isn't anywhere close to perfect, but perfection takes time. Here they are, around 14 years into tweaking the game and it still needs help. It's almost unbelievable to think Live can come out the gate and just get it right, when they haven't been able to do that in almost a decade. True the online may be more stable, but would you rather drive a bucket on a smooth street or a Bentley on a slightly bumpy one??

No use trying to be logical with some people they need to believe that 2k is a bad game in order to justify getting excited over a game that has failed to launch for 3 years, and has yet to show a single in game unaltered video of the game in action. EA recently released a statement saying they were hard at work on the game and that was enough to get some people excited, which is just sad.

# 36 WarlordZMaster @ 09/12/13 09:16 PM

I think this series is dead. I feel that they lack the creative and artistic talent to pull this game off. They have some great sports series, unfortunately, where it counts in the US - NFL and NBA, the company lacks talent and direction. NBA 2K is the reigning champion!

# 37 nick_sr @ 09/12/13 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by WarlordZMaster


	I think this series is dead. I feel that they lack the creative and artistic talent to pull this game off. They have some great sports series, unfortunately, where it counts in the US - NFL and NBA, the company lacks talent and direction. NBA 2K is the reigning champion!

again, there's a new team in charge of live.

# 38 wxn8822 @ 09/12/13 09:44 PM

NBA 2k, for this year, has impressed me with a rehashed product with unnoticeable fixes here and there.

Live has the chance this year for a big restart, see if they can take advantage of it?

# 39 magicman32 @ 09/12/13 09:50 PM

I think they stand a chance this gen if what they have is solid and they can build upon it. However, they haven't proven to be able to last gen. As for this year's game, 2k will be better IMO. The advantage 2k has is that they have a solid foundation and has been building it for years. Live hasn't come out with a game in like 3 years. They will be behind in a lot of fundamental basketball aspects. And I don't see 5 on 5 gameplay being better than 2k anytime soon.

# 40 TheHypeMachine6 @ 09/12/13 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by WarlordZMaster


	I think this series is dead. I feel that they lack the creative and artistic talent to pull this game off. They have some great sports series, unfortunately, where it counts in the US - NFL and NBA, the company lacks talent and direction. NBA 2K is the reigning champion!

The series is far from dead...new dev team, next gen console, ignite engine, bounce tek, if anything thats what I'd call it starting with a solid foundation. And having not seen any gameplay how can you say they lack creativity & artistic talent? Seems a bit shallow IMO

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